Mod Error Mafia [TM2015] - Game Over

[Magua]

Vote Count 3.14

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

T-Bone (3): GreyICE, notscience, TierShift
Cephrir (2): Wisdom, xRECKONERx
GreyICE (1): shos
Iecerint (1): T-Bone

Not Voting (2): Cephrir, Iecerint

Deadline for Day 3 is Thursday May 14th, at 07:00pm EDT (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2015-05-14 18:00:00)

Name	Change	Score
Cephrir	-	0
GreyICE	-	0
Iecerint	-	0
notscience	-	0
shos	-	0
T-Bone	-	0
TierShift	-	0
Wisdom	-	-1,000,000
xRECKONERx	-	1,000,000

[xRECKONERx]

Maybe Brian made it up for you then because you were V/LA - it doesn't matter anyway. It's null and Reck trying to argue otherwise while continuing voting you is ridiculous.

You know it's okay to have a skeptical and critical mind while not committing yourself religiously, right?

[Cephrir]

And you proved it by refusing to lynching Ceph. Now it's time to refuse to lynch Tbone, am I right?

prove
[proov]
verb (used with object), proved, proved or proven, proving.
1.
to establish the truth or genuineness of, as by evidence or argument:
to prove one's claim.
2.
Law. to establish the authenticity or validity of (a will); probate.
3.
to give demonstration of by action.
4.
to subject to a test, experiment, comparison, analysis, or the like, to determine quality, amount, acceptability, characteristics, etc.:
to prove ore.
5.
to show (oneself) to have the character or ability expected of one, especially through one's actions.
6.
Mathematics. to verify the correctness or validity of by mathematical demonstration or arithmetical proof.
7.
Also, proof. Printing. to take a trial impression of (type, a cut, etc.).

The only thing I hate about myself is I just can't shut up when I have caught scum. I feel like scum are going to convince town with their AtE and I just have to keep replying to shut that down, but most times it just either makes my arguments feel less strong or makes caught scum feel town. Grey was right that I just have to shut up and not argue with scum.

So I take it you have never, ever been wrong before. Wow, it's going to be so weird for you when you find out you are! Maybe you can write a book about your experiences.

I assumed he's claiming cop but he never actually said what he was did he.

He did. I'll go dig up the post, because I think it's a safeclaim and I would like some opinions on it.

__________

I should never have stopped listening to my desire to ragestompdestroy you day 1. Then I would be my best self still instead of an apathetic husk!

VOTE: Ceph

I agree with Tier that this feels too easy. I want to lynch Ceph or Reck first. According to what we discussed yesterday, Tbone scum means Reck scum, but not vice versa, meaning if Tbone somehow flips town Reck can still be scum, but if Reck flips town then Tbone is also town. This makes Reck a better lynch than Tbone.

"X is definitely 100% certain!"
"Except if it's not lol this feels too easy even though I was just bitching about no one listening to me!"

Also I'm trying to pin nothing. It's a fact that Tbone can only be scum if you are scum and told him i have a day action.

fact
[fakt]
noun
1.
something that actually exists; reality; truth:
Your fears have no basis in fact.
2.
something known to exist or to have happened:
Space travel is now a fact.
3.
a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true:
Scientists gather facts about plant growth.
4.
something said to be true or supposed to have happened:
The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.
5.
Law.. Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence.

Also, I blocked Grey so how did he get a night 1 result anyway?

what? you said you blocked eddie

Goddammit, I need to pay attention to what I'm saying.

You said supposedly targeted and my mind went to 'he couldn't'.

Nope, that's not even an attempt at explaining yourself. WTF are 2605 and 2606, because they look like a scumclaim and a non-sequitur respectively.

[checking current vc]

[Cephrir]

I see that there are 3 votes on T-Bone, so I am going to wait on voting him until I catch up so he can't self hammer and stop my catchup.

[xRECKONERx]

I see that there are 3 votes on T-Bone, so I am going to wait on voting him until I catch up so he can't self hammer and stop my catchup.

really

[Cephrir]

Yes. Really.

[xRECKONERx]

is that something you're legitimately concerned about?

you're concerned about scum self-hammering and then killing you tonight

[xRECKONERx]

you

?

[Wisdom]

and then killing you tonight

Where did he say this?

[Cephrir]

end of page 111

Speaking of the amnesiac tracker, where is his result today?

Good question. Anyone?

tbone is probably town

Now care to explain why ns is still in your "scum block" after grey cleared him?

how

he's claiming scum

2505 is an admission of guilt, if it's not someone needs to explain how it's not to me

I don't say cleared as an absolute, I say kind of clear because of the dichotomy of none nightactioned scum doing night kills. This point is rendered moot if scum has a strongman or ninja though, for example. I only know what I did and what maybe the result of those actions were. Heck, maybe I was roleblocked on night 1. I don't think I'd receive notification of it.

I definitely agree that your reporting of the N1 content was consistent with you being town. That's why I thought you were town yesterday.

The issue becomes that if you're scum, then you did whatever you did for a reason.

so work with me here a sec.
if you were scum and got a track result. you have two options:
1 - you don't share it - and nothing happens until tracker dies/claims.
2 - you claim it. it does NOT clear anyone truly, and you get the cred for having told the town about it.

-tracker claims
-you get lynched

nah there's no choice here

can we use the info of who Rhinox targetted..?

If anyone got a message indicating Rhinox targeted them, please out it.

[Cephrir]

is that something you're legitimately concerned about?

you're concerned about scum self-hammering and then killing you tonight

No, not killing me tonight, I just want to finish it right now

[Wisdom]

how

he's claiming scum

2505 is an admission of guilt, if it's not someone needs to explain how it's not to me

2505 is a post of mine, did you mean some other post?

[xRECKONERx]

and then killing you tonight

Where did he say this?

The implication is that "oh no T-Bone will self-hammer as scum then I won't get to share my thoughts"

[xRECKONERx]

in which case... T-Bone does that to stop him from sharing his thoughts, then he would have to be shot?

[Cephrir]

You know what I meant. <_<

It's 100% true that exactly one of Grey and T-Bone is scum, because the tracker is real and town, and that's too much power alongside a doctor (Rhinox).

The tracker being real and town is the obvious assumption implicit in all my recent posts. This is why it is bizarre for Wisdom not to have understood the motivation for my perspective.

I say exactly one because the double-bus is completely unnecessary, and it's too little town power without both of them.

Pedit: Oh, jesus.

Pls don't do setup spec, it's a bad drug

lmao iece's fake anger at me not posting for literally only 7 hours is fucking hysterical

iece is scum as fuck

I was annoyed because you were on the site when I posted that, and I think you're aware that I was aware, so I am pretty skeptical that you would fail to understand why I might be annoyed.

0/10

Shos has been really amiable and consensus-focused in his approach to this game so far I think. It's not inconsistent with scumplay with outcomes so far being what they are, but I don't think he's scum with T-Bone. For example, Wisdom has given him credible opportunities to change his vote to you while not alienating Shos as dramatically as some other players, but he hasn't changed his vote.

how

he's claiming scum

2505 is an admission of guilt, if it's not someone needs to explain how it's not to me

2505 is a post of mine, did you mean some other post?

*2605

[Cephrir]

in which case... T-Bone does that to stop him from sharing his thoughts, then he would have to be shot?

again, i'm just here and present and thinking about the game right now and wanted to finish reading, which I have now done. Prepare for a stackofwaffles readlist.

[shos]

so here was me, sitting in the toilet, half asleep, reading.

and then I remembered why I townread ceph. it's because of his posts, wisdom. just like why you're scumreading him, lol.

[xRECKONERx]

everyone has called me scum so much i keep forgetting im not

[Wisdom]

what? you said you blocked eddie

Goddammit, I need to pay attention to what I'm saying.

This is not admission to guilt. Just why would scum admit they screwed up?

[Cephrir]

Confidentish town
GreyICE (replaces Lady Lambdadelta) || WKing me as scum here does not seem necessary. Claim is town. Play is town. I'm happy to just lose if this is scum.

notscience || was townreading anyway; now has sweet result on him. Is it possible these two are scum together, yeah maybe, that would totally explain why my reads all feel like literal garbage, but I'm not planning to actually consider that notion in a way that could ever result in me acting on it.

Waffles
Wisdom (replaces EddieFenix who replaces pirate mollie who replaces Who) || probably town for predecessors. Could potentially be scum, but I feel like we're just going to lose if that is the case. Granted, we probably will anyway because he is so loudly incorrect.

Iecerint || Iec feels a bit voice of reason ish most of the time, and he posts a lot but without feeling to me like he is actually doing anything. Both Iec and TierShift have felt peripheral to the game the whole time it's been going on, they don't really seem to me to attack or defend or ever be noticed, and as a result I have a gut feeling that at least one of them is scum.

shos || I feel worse about shos than I did before, partially because Brian dislikes him and I am finding my past townread difficult to justify now. He posts town sounding things but maybe I shouldn't give him so much benefit of the doubt when his thought processes seem so consistently perpendicular to what I think of as how reasons work.

TierShift || See Iec.

Scum, I guess :/

xRECKONERx || I have no reason to think this slot is town and never have.

T-Bone || Seems pretty much like scum. I have cold feet right now for obvious reasons, which is to say I am obviously getting lynched tomorrow if we fuck up today and that means I'm going to be terrified of every possible lynch, but I do not actually have a single reason not to lynch T-Bone. He seems to have claimed scum. Also, a vanilla roleblocker? :s

[shos]

Wisdom, your confbias is extremely extreme. like really.

Ceph's posts made me feel sure about my T-bone read again and the crumbs he found to Gray's claim makes me super sure about my gray townread.

[Cephrir]

what? you said you blocked eddie

Goddammit, I need to pay attention to what I'm saying.

This is not admission to guilt. Just why would scum admit they screwed up?

Then I don't understand what it's supposed to say. He claimed he blocked you night 1, then he says he blocked someone else night 1, and all that post says is "I fucked up," not how on earth that fuck up is even possible.

[Cephrir]

Wisdom, your confbias is extremely extreme. like really.

Ceph's posts made me feel sure about my T-bone read again and the crumbs he found to Gray's claim makes me super sure about my gray townread.

Those aren't crumbs, they're just a trajectory.

[Cephrir]

Are we sure we shouldn't be massclaiming today?

[xRECKONERx]

Confidentish town
GreyICE (replaces Lady Lambdadelta) || WKing me as scum here does not seem necessary. Claim is town. Play is town. I'm happy to just lose if this is scum.

notscience || was townreading anyway; now has sweet result on him. Is it possible these two are scum together, yeah maybe, that would totally explain why my reads all feel like literal garbage, but I'm not planning to actually consider that notion in a way that could ever result in me acting on it.

Waffles
Wisdom (replaces EddieFenix who replaces pirate mollie who replaces Who) || probably town for predecessors. Could potentially be scum, but I feel like we're just going to lose if that is the case. Granted, we probably will anyway because he is so loudly incorrect.

Iecerint || Iec feels a bit voice of reason ish most of the time, and he posts a lot but without feeling to me like he is actually doing anything. Both Iec and TierShift have felt peripheral to the game the whole time it's been going on, they don't really seem to me to attack or defend or ever be noticed, and as a result I have a gut feeling that at least one of them is scum.

shos || I feel worse about shos than I did before, partially because Brian dislikes him and I am finding my past townread difficult to justify now. He posts town sounding things but maybe I shouldn't give him so much benefit of the doubt when his thought processes seem so consistently perpendicular to what I think of as how reasons work.

TierShift || See Iec.

Scum, I guess :/

xRECKONERx || I have no reason to think this slot is town and never have.

T-Bone || Seems pretty much like scum. I have cold feet right now for obvious reasons, which is to say I am obviously getting lynched tomorrow if we fuck up today and that means I'm going to be terrified of every possible lynch, but I do not actually have a single reason not to lynch T-Bone. He seems to have claimed scum. Also, a vanilla roleblocker? :s

there are probably three scum left so you're at least wrong about one

and I'm town so you're wrong about two, guess again