We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[wgeurts]

Drixx, will go log in but I really want your thoughts and you're going out:
What do you think of Brantz or Plotinus?

[BRantz]

If there is no kill tonight it is possible there is only 1 scum left right? Or am I missing something?

[Plotinus]

If there is no kill tonight it is possible there is only 1 scum left right? Or am I missing something?

Possibly? We haven't had any scum flip (except narninian) since devoured started happening, and narninian was among the devoured, and I don't think he devoured himself. I think there was some speculation that it was a limited venge thing though. I want that to be true that there's only one scum left but it might be wishful thinking.

[Plotinus]

anyway we should act like it's lylo even if it's not lylo for sure, doing FoS instead of voting until we're as sure as we're going to be.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

I wrote this a few hours ago but wanted to wait a bit and see if I still thought it before posting it, and it turns out that I do. Boon's posts today haven't allayed my suspicions. A few other people chimed in and said what I was thinking, so that makes hammering less scary.

As Bulba explained multiple times, if you had targetted him on the same night as Chrivi targetting him, you would have got results. Or if you hadn't got results after all that would have told us something about Bulba. I also don't like people saying they're conftown when they're not in ChriVi's situation or the situation Trousers were in after TF died. You're also not "obvious town". Obvious town would be participating more.

VOTE: Boonskiies

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I actually wanted Boon to respond to me before anyone hammered. Jeez.

Also can everyone send a PM for short night this time?

I will. Also, I trust you will commute tonight? That'll leave only four options.

Brant could be it,
SK x-shot immune during the day but can't vote.
It's balanced so he can't win if he does it at lylo.
He also can't kill when he's removed.
Has there been a kill while he's been removed?

One way or another that vote of his was scum as heck.

He removed himself D1, and there were 3 kills (two at night--eviscerated and incinerated--and one at the end of the day--nuked from orbit). Pretty sure he also voted D1, too.

I wrote this a few hours ago but wanted to wait a bit and see if I still thought it before posting it, and it turns out that I do. Boon's posts today haven't allayed my suspicions. A few other people chimed in and said what I was thinking, so that makes hammering less scary.

As Bulba explained multiple times, if you had targetted him on the same night as Chrivi targetting him, you would have got results. Or if you hadn't got results after all that would have told us something about Bulba. I also don't like people saying they're conftown when they're not in ChriVi's situation or the situation Trousers were in after TF died. You're also not "obvious town". Obvious town would be participating more.

VOTE: Boonskiies

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I actually wanted Boon to respond to me before anyone hammered. Jeez.

Also can everyone send a PM for short night this time?

I will. Also, I trust you will commute tonight? That'll leave only four options.

Brant could be it,
SK x-shot immune during the day but can't vote.
It's balanced so he can't win if he does it at lylo.
He also can't kill when he's removed.
Has there been a kill while he's been removed?

One way or another that vote of his was scum as heck.

He removed himself D1, and there were 3 kills (two at night--eviscerated and incinerated--and one at the end of the day--nuked from orbit). Pretty sure he also voted D1, too.

Crap.

I think we may have just lost, if one specific scenario happens overnight.

I'm hoping I'm wrong, though.

Pick-up...

Although, really, the two ways we town DON'T lose is if only one kill happens (either by no devour tonight or by praying that there's no nuke) or if no kills happen. Or if one scum kills the other.

-Ivy

[Plotinus]

sorry. i couldn't tell. it seems obvious now though.

[ChriVi]

Boonskiies... Could you please try being clear with your words?

Like. I can't understand what you're saying 99% of the time. Did you investigate BC LAST NIGHT or THE NIGHT BEFORE?

If it was LAST NIGHT, then yes BC is lying about is role because you should've gotten a result due to me targeting him as well.

If it was THE NIGHT BEFORE, then OF COURSE you got no result because he's reflexive jailkeeper.

Way to lurk out an entire game and still manage to not be helpful with your dying breaths. bleh.

[ChriVi]

Also, good luck town... Don't let BBMolla slip under your nose. Game mechanics for towniness over gameplay, people.

[BRantz]

He investigated BC a few nights ago, he investigated OC last night.

OC is not mafia.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

So he's just a dumbass. Good to know. <_<

[BBmolla]

Also, good luck town... Don't let BBMolla slip under your nose. Game mechanics for towniness over gameplay, people.

Are you shitting me

Look at today

And yet you're saying this

Are you serious

[ChriVi]

Also, good luck town... Don't let BBMolla slip under your nose. Game mechanics for towniness over gameplay, people.

Are you shitting me

Look at today

And yet you're saying this

Are you serious

Yeah.

And yeah BC *facepalm* I don't think he understands what we were talking about (if he even read it). Lynch was worth it

[BBmolla]

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

So, I guess he's going to spite us in his dying throes. Pity.

Just know that if we die tonight, both scum targeted us. I thought I said this already, but I'll say my thoughts on this again: Since there was no kill, the last WW had to have targeted us, ChriVi, or OC. OC said they didn't commute, so that's not a possibility or else they'd be dead (or they're the WW, but that's not relevant here). That means that either they targeted us and we were protected by ChriVi's doc (again, more than one person targets us=no JKs), or they targeted ChriVi and were blocked. Since both of us had some level of proection thanks to each other, and no kill went through, there is no chance of there being a superpowered, Strongman WW. Or superpowered in the since that they get an extra layer of killing.

Actually, because I'm damn sure both scum have to know they'd have to both shoot us to kill us, if there's no deaths tonight, there are no more WW scum. Or at least no more WW kills.

(also, I admittedly think that why ChriVi survived a potential kill should be rather obvious, but I'm not going to fullclaim until there's proof of only one scum left, either by the above or by a WW/Berlin NK tonight.)

[Oranje Crush]

I'm not going to commute tonight, I'm targeting elusive to see what she had.
Semi-hoping that scum will kill me tonight so that I'm not the one to get lynched and loose the game tommorow.

But BC, has there been a "Devour" while Brantz removed himself from the game?

An SK that can choose to not kill and vote in exchange for becoming unlynchable, unkillable and unable to win if the game ends while he's gone sounds like an actual possible role.

[Oranje Crush]

Then we've got the two "convenient" BP's.
If I'm alive by tommorow I'm up for lynching these in order of most wanted to least: Plotinus>>>Brantz>>>Drixx
BRO thinks BC's scum, I find it hard to believe however.

[Oranje Crush]

BBmolla's obviously town, hence he's likely the one to go as his kill has the highest chance of causing chaos in lylo.
I'm suspected, his kill will make me look bad.
Brantz has some suspicion.
BC is suspected.
Drixx is suspected.
Plot is suspected.
Molla is generally town read.

We're going to need to hold back our old read and properly rethink the game. Especially the last few days need attention.

[Oranje Crush]

BBmolla,
What are your reads for if your likely to die?
I think everyone should state their final thoughts.

[BRantz]

No, no one has been devoured while I've been gone for my role, and given what I was missing (that we are probably in lylo tomorrow) I understand more the need to walk that WIFOM line from your POV OC.

To me Molla and BC are town, and extremely unlikely to be people I will support the lynch of tomorrow (assuming I am alive).

Then in order of most to least interested in lynching it is Plot>>OC/Drixx (I like that OC is trying to get as much info as possible available to everyone in this twilight which drops him from being second to tied with Drixx, so really its Plot far and above for me, but I would lynch either of the other two if a good case was presented for it)

[Oranje Crush]

Your saying, that you'll vote whoever gets a cased made on?
Why don't you make one yourself and then decided.
First rule of lylo.
Don't let other influence you.
You need to decide for yourself.

[BBmolla]

BBmolla,
What are your reads for if your likely to die?
I think everyone should state their final thoughts.

I still think you're scum

Don't know partner.

Knowing my luck though you're probably town and it's probably Drixx/BRantz though.

[BRantz]

No, I will vote either of you if someone makes a case that I find to be worthwhile. Will not let other people make a decision for me in lylo.

Put another way I find the odds of either of you being scum to be much lower than Plot, but if someone makes a really good case that convinces me otherwise I will at the very least consider it.

[Oranje Crush]

Ok, that's fine then.
I'm just making it very clear we have to be very cautious.
I'm not loosing this game.

[BBmolla]

I think BC is town btw

[Drixx]

Any town player who actually considers lynching me in what will presumably be LYLO tomorrow deserves to lose. Period.