Mod Error Mafia [TM2015] - Game Over

[Magua]

Vote Count 3.20

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

T-Bone (2): notscience, TierShift
Cephrir (1): xRECKONERx
Iecerint (1): T-Bone
xRECKONERx (1): Wisdom
TierShift (1): shos
shos (1): GreyICE

Not Voting (2): Cephrir, Iecerint

V/LA: TierShift (May 9th)

Deadline for Day 3 is Thursday May 14th, at 07:00pm EDT (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2015-05-14 18:00:00)

Name	Change	Score
Cephrir	-	-9
GreyICE	-	-6
Iecerint	-	-7
notscience	-	-2
shos	-	-5
T-Bone	-	-8
TierShift	-	-3
Wisdom	-	-4
xRECKONERx	-	-1

[Iecerint]

That's only true if the loud doctor told them that Rhinox did it, rather than just that they were targeted or protected. But apparently Rhinox only targeted scum, so no way to ever know this.

[Wisdom]

That's how the wiki defines Loud - it does indicate who you were targeted by

[xRECKONERx]

My assumption since the mod didn't say "yes use the wiki" but rather "wiki is a good starting spot" is that they get told they were targeted but not by who

[Wisdom]

Or it just works like the wiki says and the mod is not revealing more than he should.

[Iecerint]

That's how the wiki defines Loud - it does indicate who you were targeted by

Right.

[Wisdom]

But of course you make convenient assumptions based on nothing.

[Wisdom]

^@reck if it wasnt obvious

[Iecerint]

You have to assume something though or you just keep agonizing for 100 years. D:

[Wisdom]

I don't disagree, but why would anyone make this specific assumption based on the mod saying that?

[Iecerint]

I am just relating to lots of people complaining about me making assumptions earlier.

[Wisdom]

I personally see the mod's post as "look buddy, if I meant to tell you what each role does in detail, I would flip them with their Role Pms. You just have their role name, find it out on yourself." There's no basis to speculate that the Loud modifier works differently here, much less to speculate that it works in that specific way.

[Cephrir]

My team has made a decent point involving Reck possibly being town. I do think he's capable of being a crafty bugger but This would leave us with a pool of 4 (assuming Wisdom town), and we don't think shos and T-Bone can be scum together.

Everything that springs to my mind always seems too easy even so.

[Wisdom]

I dont think Tbone can be in any scumteam that Reck isnt in.

What is the point for Reck-town?

[Cephrir]

They think his recent emotions have seemed genuine and in line with what town should be feeling (and we're feeling it too, so).

I honestly don't remember why you think T-Bone can't be scum without Reck though I'm quite sure you've said so; but I am considering voting for neither of them.

[Wisdom]

ok. I disagree with that point, it's quite easy for town to fake those emotions. I do it all the time as scum in such situations.

[Wisdom]

for scum*

[Iecerint]

Has anyone looked at how Katsuki/Cabd went down D1? Someone who had a idgaf attitude.

My recollection is that shos had an "i don't care anymore" frustration post at some point, but that was just from reading him and didn't reflect a readthrough of everyone.

LLD sidelined a bit, but it's also LLD, so.

That's all I remember.

[Wisdom]

As for why Tbone is scum with Reck;

One point was the fact Tbone claimed he blocked Eddie - that would be quite dangerous unless he knew Eddie doesn't have a night action. The only way he could know that is if Reck or shos, who received messages from mollie/Eddie during the day, informed him, making it safe to claim a block on Eddie.

The other point is the fact that nobody has followed me on pushing you (Ceph) other than Reck. If you and Reck are town, I am quite sure that at least one of Tbone's scumbuddies would join the counterwagon. That to me means either Reck is the buddy who joined the counterwagon, or you (Ceph) are also scum.

[Iecerint]

I think you are putting too much weight into your slot being a "safe" block claim. For example, it's also possible that T-Bone is a scum roleblocker who blocked your slot. Reck/shos aren't required for that.

Though, it does require the whole scumteam to have forgotten about the messenger claim.

But the entire town apparently forgot, so maybe that's not too far-fetched.

[Iecerint]

I think it's relatively likely that T-Bone is a real roleblocker because he's only not a real roleblocker if Rhinox protected scum last night (as the loud modifier would have happened if he wasn't blocked).

Though T-Bone-Scum would know that he protected scum in such a case, to be fair.

[Cephrir]

it's also possible that T-Bone is a scum roleblocker who blocked your slot.

this

[Cephrir]

If you and Reck are town, I am quite sure that at least one of Tbone's scumbuddies would join the counterwagon. That to me means either Reck is the buddy who joined the counterwagon, or you (Ceph) are also scum.

Iec has made noises about voting for me at some point or another.

[Wisdom]

But didn't. Reck did.

[Cephrir]

(though I'm getting further from lynching t-bone today every passing second, so possibly moot)

(also I thought iec did actually vote me for a little while, but I could be wrong)