Mod Error Mafia [TM2015] - Game Over

[xRECKONERx]

me hiding behind your claim? whaaa..?

you pushed me by trying to say my null claim is scummy and used that to setup a jump onto me

it's incoming

you haven't stated any other actual reasons for voting me. you just came in and went YUP RECK/TBONE

[Cephrir]

I'm tempted to link to "my best," but it seems irrelevant.

[shos]

VOTE: reck

pedit: I pushed you? where?
and I did not say your claim is scummy, I said it fits as a scum role more than a town role, and even that was only after I was prodded by wisdom to vote you. MS has also been prodding me with a spear up my ass to vote you. and I've just went through a big chunk of your ISO(not only those 58 posts) and it appears that you did shit, I mean, cabd's content was better, and I have no idea how you have 260 posts.

[Cephrir]

Wow, both semantics AND wrong! Nice!

[Wisdom]

you haven't stated any other actual reasons for voting me.

boo hoo hoo im caught for the wrong reasons

[shos]

Ceph, are you talking about my post or reck's misrep, lol

MS says that ceph having 431(435 by now lol) posts really doesn't look apathetic, but you're wrong about you being able to look town lol
oh and @wis that was just ranting so ignore. no MS, I'm not paraphrasing THIS

[Wisdom]

Nobody up to this point has actually done anything like that and nobody is explaining their push/read on me in anything other than vague conditionals and gut and policy.

So what? You're not new to mafia, and you surely know that scum can be lynched even without explaining shit. So what is the point of whining?

^Relevant

[Cephrir]

Saying his claim is scummy and saying it fits as a scum role are the same thing.

MS doesn't know what he's talking about, then

Just because I say a lot of words doesn't mean I'm successfully giving a shit, I have nothing better to do at work.

[xRECKONERx]

you haven't stated any other actual reasons for voting me.

boo hoo hoo im caught for the wrong reasons

boo hoo i compensate for my shitty play and awful reads by spamposting and changing my reads based on nothing every five minutes

[xRECKONERx]

Saying his claim is scummy and saying it fits as a scum role are the same thing.

YEPPP

and shos trying to play semantics to say otherwise is lolly

[Wisdom]

you haven't stated any other actual reasons for voting me.

boo hoo hoo im caught for the wrong reasons

boo hoo i compensate for my shitty play and awful reads by spamposting and changing my reads based on nothing every five minutes

Yeah yeah try to discredit me because I've caught you

[shos]

ahh no it's not
a scummy claim is what T-bone has done; claim a role that I see always as scum, say that you targetted X and then Y and then say oops, claiming acompletely antitown night actions, etc. What reck claimed is just a seemingly useless role. but it being town is -really- useless, and it being scum is -not- useless, because scum can try to use it to fool town as if there's a different mechanic there, or even to just fuck up the thread with people clogging it trying to figure out a pattern(which almost happened with me, D1, remember? when LLD shot me down from that idea).

[Wisdom]

also lol @ "based on nothing". Every single change I have made is crystal clear and everyone can tell what I am thinking and why at any given moment.

[xRECKONERx]

no it's not?

[xRECKONERx]

ahh no it's not
a scummy claim is what T-bone has done; claim a role that I see always as scum, say that you targetted X and then Y and then say oops, claiming acompletely antitown night actions, etc. What reck claimed is just a seemingly useless role. but it being town is -really- useless, and it being scum is -not- useless, because scum can try to use it to fool town as if there's a different mechanic there, or even to just fuck up the thread with people clogging it trying to figure out a pattern(which almost happened with me, D1, remember? when LLD shot me down from that idea).

that's not what you said

you implied my role is more likely as scum than town, period

[Wisdom]

shos is actually right now that I think about it. It's a misleading thing and fits scum more than town

[xRECKONERx]

Also let me just say: if I was actually scum and had this role I would've used it to fuck with people way more because I would've had a whole team that could've helped me update it and keep it on votecounts and stuff. I wouldn't have half-assed it to fuck with people or chosen to use a strategy that requires me to be around for every single VC or given up and started janking the scores around just to troll.

I mean you could argue this is "self-meta" but I don't think it is, I think it's just like... how would scum use this role, and how would town?

[xRECKONERx]

I used it pre-game to start everyone @ 50 points per Quilford's idea, then only used it 6 more times the entire game.

[xRECKONERx]

shos is actually right now that I think about it. It's a misleading thing and fits scum more than town

It's no more misleading than your anonymous messenger role, holy shit

[shos]

Reck's role seems fitting for scum as a way to deceive town; but why would he claim it if this was it?

This was what I said.

[Wisdom]

I doubt you could do anything more with it than you did. The role relies on it being the subject of discussion and therefore misleading the town.

pedit: Messenger is a role that is seen now and then, score thing isn't.

[xRECKONERx]

Bins: Conditional Cop
Cabd: Limited Vote Mover
Cephrir: ???
GreyICE: Night Action Checker Thing
Iecerint: ???
Katsuki: 1-shot Miller Thread Unlocker
notscience: Hated Townie?
Rhinox: Loud Doctor
shos: ???
T-Bone: Roleblocker
TierShift: ???
Wisdom: Day Messenger
xRECKONERx: Points Awarder

did i fuck anything up here

[xRECKONERx]

I doubt you could do anything more with it than you did. The role relies on it being the subject of discussion and therefore misleading the town.

pedit: Messenger is a role that is seen now and then, score thing isn't.

And yet any time discussion about the points was brought up, I ignored it or encouraged other people to ignore it?

Why does role prevalence matter?

[shos]

Also let me just say: if I was actually scum and had this role I would've used it to fuck with people way more because I would've had a whole team that could've helped me update it and keep it on votecounts and stuff. I wouldn't have half-assed it to fuck with people or chosen to use a strategy that requires me to be around for every single VC or given up and started janking the scores around just to troll.

I mean you could argue this is "self-meta" but I don't think it is, I think it's just like... how would scum use this role, and how would town?

are you limited or can you change it every second? or every VC?
I also think the idea to actually check the score out got shot down SUPER quick so keeping up with it probably wouldn't have mattered unless I found a pattern in my team PT.

shos is actually right now that I think about it. It's a misleading thing and fits scum more than town

It's no more misleading than your anonymous messenger role, holy shit

and I disagree, because you know it's not the mod that's talking there. on VCs it looked just like mod work.

[Wisdom]

Because you're trying to argue that Messenger is somehow a misleading role when it isn't