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[Plotinus]

I think it's interesting that Oranje tried to explain his role PM as best he could to BBmolla and BBmolla is not happy with it. I think that means there is 1 scum in [Oranje, BBmolla] actually.

[Cuttlefish]

Vote Count 9.01

Oranje Crush (1)

- BBmolla

Not Voting (5)

: Oranje Crush, Plotinus, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Drixx, BRantz

With 6 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-05-21 11:46:33).

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

Yes,
Your not scum.

Can you help me understand how you got this after this post?

Brant could be it,
SK x-shot immune during the day but can't vote.
It's balanced so he can't win if he does it at lylo.
He also can't kill when he's removed.
Has there been a kill while he's been removed?

One way or another that vote of his was scum as heck.

It just seems to me that the lack of an obvious kill wouldn't necessarily disprove your thoughts.

[BBmolla]

@Molla: You are that certain?

certain enough to blame kuribo post game if I'm wrong

[Plotinus]

I've been thinking about this since my last post. I think BBmolla has a good point and I think Brantz is telling me to consider my reads of people based on their behaviour instead of trying to logic puzzle this.

I don't like Oranje's claim. I think it has to be one of [BBmolla, Oranje Crush] because Oranje tried to crumb his role pm to BBmolla and failed. That means that either scumOranje thought he could get enough keywords that were in BBmolla's role PM and missed something important or that BBmolla is scum and is discrediting Oranje. This isn't town vs town. It has to be one or the other. BBmolla has been saying it's Oranje for Days now. He seems really sure. ChriVi saw something in Oranje's VCA that I still don't see but I think some other people saw it? It was unfortunate that ChriVi didn't get around to explaining that. If we're wrong about Oranje then BBmolla tomorrow.

Look at the last page of BBmolla's ISO: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=200

It looks like genuine town-is-about-to-lose-flailing to me, which admittedly I've only seen twice in my newbie games but it looks kind of like a grown up version of the newb-town-about-to-lose flailing I've seen (lalaladucks in my first newbie game and in the second me and wanderer when the other townie voted me (town tracker) in LYLO. He unvoted but then we voted him and lost. whee.)

VOTE: Oranje-Crush L-2

[wgeurts]

Plotinus are you dumb or something?
Nobody else saw the VCA thing.
VOTE: BBmolla
I'm fine with a fucking 1v1, as I'm town and I'm not letting the scum win the game.

Everyone does realise this is Lylo and if we mislynch devour scum wins or the scum draw?
Lynch>5 Players
Nuke>4 Players
Possible Devour>3 Players
Then scum lynch final town or whatever.

In other words, if we lynch town today we're fucked.
Newsflash, I'm town and I'm getting pissed that people are calling me scum because of my role. Not even that, but they claim it's fake.
I'VE FUCKING PROVED THE COMMUTER, I'VE BEEN SAYING I'D GET ABILITIES ALL GAME AND IT MATCHES THE CURRENT FLIPPED ROLES. HECK I DANGEROUSLY CAME CLOSE TO GETTING MOD-KILLED QUOTING PARTS CLOSE TO LITERALY.
Fuck, maybe it'll help if I just dump the PM here, take the mods wrath and then let the town hopefully figure out that they are fucking stupid.

I don't think BB's scum.
However for some idiot reason some people have demanded a 1v1.
I'm all up for lynching plot though.
Look at how he's conveniently drawn a conclusion on me.
I reaaaaaly doubt he's town.

[Oranje Crush]

Plotinus are you dumb or something?
Nobody else saw the VCA thing.
VOTE: BBmolla
I'm fine with a fucking 1v1, as I'm town and I'm not letting the scum win the game.

Everyone does realise this is Lylo and if we mislynch devour scum wins or the scum draw?
Lynch>5 Players
Nuke>4 Players
Possible Devour>3 Players
Then scum lynch final town or whatever.

In other words, if we lynch town today we're fucked.
Newsflash, I'm town and I'm getting pissed that people are calling me scum because of my role. Not even that, but they claim it's fake.
I'VE FUCKING PROVED THE COMMUTER, I'VE BEEN SAYING I'D GET ABILITIES ALL GAME AND IT MATCHES THE CURRENT FLIPPED ROLES. HECK I DANGEROUSLY CAME CLOSE TO GETTING MOD-KILLED QUOTING PARTS CLOSE TO LITERALY.
Fuck, maybe it'll help if I just dump the PM here, take the mods wrath and then let the town hopefully figure out that they are fucking stupid.

I don't think BB's scum.
However for some idiot reason some people have demanded a 1v1.
I'm all up for lynching plot though.
Look at how he's conveniently drawn a conclusion on me.
I reaaaaaly doubt he's town.

Go ahead and lynch me, make sure that you burn plotinus to death when I flip town though. You damn ough it to me.
And let this be a note that BBmolla's play this game had been awful, he's been wrongly focused all game on town. Unless he's scum, then I say congrats.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

If OC's scum, it's devour, pretty much. But, as much as I feel like they're one of the last scum, I'm kinda not feeling like lynching the scum that may or may not be scum. I'd rather get Berlin/Nuked. And on that train of thought, it really just leads me to Plotinus.

Vote: Plotinus

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

And by everything good and holy, geurts, if you quote your PM, too...

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

(and even some things unholy)

[BBmolla]

Bulbs

Please

PLEASE

Just sheep me this once

If I'm wrong I will seriously open up Microsoft word and write a ten page essay on how I didn't listen to you

But I really think I'm right

[Oranje Crush]

BBmolla, I'll do the same if I flip scum.
I won't.
Sheep us on Plotinus.
Lynch me later if we must.
First we need to prevent a possible win today for the scum.

Because you are fucking wrong. I'm town.

VOTE: Plotinus
This is a real scum, with a role to fit it.
I said I'd vote plot if others join.

[Oranje Crush]

Fuck,
I'll cut my balls off if I'm scum.

[Oranje Crush]

Open your fucking eyes!
How the fuck do you think I'm scum?

[Plotinus]

well I think the interaction between Oranje and BBmolla about the role PMs means it has to be one of them. Sometimes 1v1 is town vs town but I think if they were both town then they've both come out of the exchange townreading each other. I don't really know how to tell which of them it is. But I agree that finding berlin/nuked is more important than devour so i don't even know.

Brantz seems to think that the way I was trying to go about finding berlin/nuked was wrong, that i was basing it on too many what-ifs and it probably was.

preview-edit (after bbmolla's post): i dont know if i should unvote or not.

preview-edit (after oranje) but why does Oranje feel so threatened by me trying to scumhunt him? whenever anyone tries to push him to see if he's scum or not he just calls them dumb.

[Plotinus]

(i meant that i was going to unvote between bulba and bbmolla's posts but then the posts starting with bbmolla's latest convinced me not to unvote for now)

[Cuttlefish]

Vote Count 9.02

Oranje Crush (2)

- BBmolla, Plotinus

Plotinus (2)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Oranje Crush

Not Voting (2)

- Drixx, BRantz

With 6 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-05-21 11:46:33).

[Plotinus]

if this is LYLO why haven't scum quickhammered?

[Oranje Crush]

I think BBmolla's town you god damn scum

[Oranje Crush]

As there are two scum, they need to coordinate without being able to coordinate.
They need each other alive to win.
They don't know who the other is however.

[Oranje Crush]

Bulbs

Please

PLEASE

Just sheep me this once

If I'm wrong I will seriously open up Microsoft word and write a ten page essay on how I didn't listen to you

But I really think I'm right

This convinced you ey?
Riiiiighhhhtt.

[Oranje Crush]

BBmolla's obviously town, hence he's likely the one to go as his kill has the highest chance of causing chaos in lylo.
I'm suspected, his kill will make me look bad.
Brantz has some suspicion.
BC is suspected.
Drixx is suspected.
Plot is suspected.
Molla is generally town read.

We're going to need to hold back our old read and properly rethink the game. Especially the last few days need attention.

[Oranje Crush]

Brantz likely isn't scum if the devour doesn't continue.
If I'm going down everyone better swear on their lives to lynch plot when I flip.

[Oranje Crush]

bb, how can you be on a wagon with plot?

[Plotinus]

I think BBmolla's town you god damn scum

then why is he scumreading you?

UNVOTE: for now. I think we have enough time before the deadline to figure things out some more. Maybe I'm missing something that'll become clear later.