Mod Error Mafia [TM2015] - Game Over

shos · Post Post #4250 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 3:00 am

If we get to lylo now for a towntier, kill iece with fire

Wisdom · Post Post #4251 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 3:08 am

notscience and mastin's opinion on the setup wouldn't hurt before the hammer

but ns keeps not being here

Wisdom · Post Post #4252 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 3:11 am

dont hammer yet, lets wait for that

Wisdom · Post Post #4253 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 3:12 am

He was prodded so he has to post soon after all

shos · Post Post #4254 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 3:17 am

Okiedokie. I wont object to lynching iece first lol too

Wisdom · Post Post #4255 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 3:18 am

that wont happen. If we were to lynch from the three investigatives, we would be lynching grey.

ISO · Post Post #4256 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 3:20 am

At this point the only wagons I would still consider moving to are Reck and you shos

Magua · Post Post #4257 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 3:52 am

notscience has not picked up his prod. His team has been notified.

T-Bone has been prodded.

Vote Count 3.38

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

TierShift (4): shos, Cephrir, xRECKONERx, Wisdom
T-Bone (1): Iecerint
Iecerint (1): T-Bone
shos (1): TierShift

Not Voting (2): notscience, GreyICE

Deadline for Day 3 is Thursday May 14th, at 07:00pm EDT (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2015-05-14 18:00:00)

Name	Change	Score
Cephrir	-	-9
GreyICE	-	-6
Iecerint	-	-7
notscience	-	-2
shos	-	-5
T-Bone	-	-8
TierShift	-	-3
Wisdom	-	-4
xRECKONERx	-	-1

TierShift · Post Post #4258 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 3:55 am

↑ shos wrote:
So what you're saying is that I am scum and killed Rhinox because he was scumreading me?

yes, scum kill those who have good reads. That's basic knowledge.

wouldn't scum, supposedly, attempt to kill the tracker if the tracker was truly town? do you think Rhinox would have been a good candidate for being the tracker?

IMPORTANT

Wait, why did rhinox NOT make a good candidate for the tracker?

↑ shos wrote:
↑ TierShift wrote:Let me get this straight

1.Shos claims he has been targeted at night
2.Shos claims a role that informs him if he's been targeted at night
3.Shos claims not to have been targeted at night
4.Shos claims he thought he was targeted at night because he received the message early in the day although he did not receive a confirmation he was targeted

This stinks, shos. And do you know of what this stinks? Of the EXACT same thing as my voyeur claim with unmatching crumb in shameless mafia.

I don't see why anyone thinks this is a logical sequence of events. If he were the actual role he claimed, he would NOT have claimed he wasn't targeted.

I can bring up the reference to how shos caught me with a bad crumb to my fakeclaim if anyone wants me to.

But shos, I'm going to catch you here.
VOTE: shos

Really guys, just look at it. He would not EVER post the 'I have been targeted' because that is a fucking crumb if you have this role. And not a crumb of what he has actually claimed.

↑ Wisdom wrote:He explained it and it makes perfect sense.
and this.
In short: I had a small fight with the mod in PMs because the *DAY ACTION* that I received was gotten *LITERALLY FIVE MINUTES* from when the day started, so I was sure it's a night action.

READ THE FUCKING THREAD

Yes, I read the fucking thread. By doing that, I noticed that your story is full of holes. You have an ability that EXPLICITLY informs you if you have been targeted at night.
If you then post that you HAVE BEEN TARGETED AT NIGHT, that means you are crumbing that you have received a pm saying you were targeted.
ANYTHING
ELSE
IS
NOT
FUCKING
POSSIBLE

Wisdom · Post Post #4259 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 3:58 am

↑ TierShift wrote:yes, scum kill those who have good reads. That's basic knowledge.

Bullshit. Scum kill those who a) aren't pushable and b) who might hold good and dangerous power roles.

TierShift · Post Post #4260 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:00 am

↑ shos wrote:So. Assuming this table is complete and correct:

Player Role Flavor Role Additional role Additional info
Katsuki
"When the mod forgets to lock the thread" 1-shot Thread Unlocker Miller Lynched D1
Bins
"When the mod ties alignment to flavor" Conditional Cop Killed N1
Cabd
"When the mod doesn't replace lurkers" Limited Vote Mover Lynched D2.
Could control the votes of players who haven't posted in 48 hours
Rhinox
When the mod plays favorites" Loud Doctor Killed N2
LIVING PLAYERS:
Cephrir
"When the mod messes up the VC" Vote Switcher Miller Switched shos and NS' votes on N2
GreyICE
"When the mod doesn't replace players before the night ends" Night-Action Cop N1: Tbone has a night ability
N2: notscience does not have a night ability
Iecerint
"When the mod gives results to the wrong player" Amnesiac Tracker Chooses both the tracked person and who gets the result.
N1 tracked Ceph, gave to Tbone
N2 tracked Reck, gave to Rhinox
notscience
Hated GreyICE says he has no night actions
shos
"When the mod confirms the action to the wrong player" Modified Self-Watcher The ability counts as active.
Not targetted N1.
Not targetted N2.
T-Bone
"When the mod forgets a night action" Roleblocker Blocked Eddie N1
Blocked Rhinox N2
Claimed to have received Iecerint's Track result - Ceph went nowhere.
TierShift
"When the mod forgets to send a role PM" 1-shot self-inventor 1s ability has yet to be invented
Wisdom
"When the mod just has to comment" Messenger Messaged Reck D1
Messaged shos D2
xRECKONERx
"When the mod keeps score" Points Awarder Controlled the 'score' thingie

ohey, now I remember where I remember this table from.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p6708763
right there, where you were scum. Weren't you being just as helpful there as you're being here? Helpful shos is certainly town, isn't he?

I really don't have much to say other than that shos's story is OBVIOUSLY full of holes and that I don't get why everyone thinks he's town with no one wanting or able to explain and that I'm really sad everyone wants to lynch me instead. Please look at ceph/reck tomorrow if I get hammered.

Wisdom · Post Post #4261 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:01 am

↑ TierShift wrote:Yes, I read the fucking thread. By doing that, I noticed that your story is full of holes. You have an ability that EXPLICITLY informs you if you have been targeted at night.
If you then post that you HAVE BEEN TARGETED AT NIGHT, that means you are crumbing that you have received a pm saying you were targeted.
ANYTHING
ELSE
IS
NOT
FUCKING
POSSIBLE

No, it does not mean that. It means he received Eddie's message and thought it was a night action. Since he received no PM from the mod regarding his action, his action could have malfunctioned. It's entirely plausible.

Wisdom · Post Post #4262 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:02 am

↑ TierShift wrote:ohey, now I remember where I remember this table from.
viewtopic.php?p=6708763#p6708763
right there, where you were scum. Weren't you being just as helpful there as you're being here? Helpful shos is certainly town, isn't he?

So because he tried to be helpful as scum means he can't be helpful as town?

TierShift · Post Post #4263 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:05 am

↑ Wisdom wrote:
↑ TierShift wrote:Yes, I read the fucking thread. By doing that, I noticed that your story is full of holes. You have an ability that EXPLICITLY informs you if you have been targeted at night.
If you then post that you HAVE BEEN TARGETED AT NIGHT, that means you are crumbing that you have received a pm saying you were targeted.
ANYTHING
ELSE
IS
NOT
FUCKING
POSSIBLE

No, it does not mean that. It means he received Eddie's message and thought it was a night action. Since he received no PM from the mod regarding his action, his action could have malfunctioned. It's entirely plausible.

No, you do NOT fucking ASSUME your action malfunctioned. And you definitely do not CRUMB that your action DID work.

↑ Wisdom wrote:
↑ TierShift wrote:ohey, now I remember where I remember this table from.
viewtopic.php?p=6708763#p6708763
right there, where you were scum. Weren't you being just as helpful there as you're being here? Helpful shos is certainly town, isn't he?

So because he tried to be helpful as scum means he can't be helpful as town?

No, I'm just telling you that you shouldn't be deceived by his helpfulness. Don't twist my words.

ISO · Post Post #4264 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:06 am

↑ Wisdom wrote:
↑ TierShift wrote:Yes, I read the fucking thread. By doing that, I noticed that your story is full of holes. You have an ability that EXPLICITLY informs you if you have been targeted at night.
If you then post that you HAVE BEEN TARGETED AT NIGHT, that means you are crumbing that you have received a pm saying you were targeted.
ANYTHING
ELSE
IS
NOT
FUCKING
POSSIBLE

No, it does not mean that. It means he received Eddie's message and thought it was a night action. Since he received no PM from the mod regarding his action, his action could have malfunctioned. It's entirely plausible.

I'm not sure he ever put it this way.

Wisdom · Post Post #4265 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:06 am

He did not crumb anything. He said that he knew he was targeted. Which he thought because he thought the message was night action.

Nobody is being deceived by his helpfulness, helpfulness is not alignment indicative.

Wisdom · Post Post #4266 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:07 am

↑ Cephrir wrote:
↑ Wisdom wrote:
↑ TierShift wrote:Yes, I read the fucking thread. By doing that, I noticed that your story is full of holes. You have an ability that EXPLICITLY informs you if you have been targeted at night.
If you then post that you HAVE BEEN TARGETED AT NIGHT, that means you are crumbing that you have received a pm saying you were targeted.
ANYTHING
ELSE
IS
NOT
FUCKING
POSSIBLE

No, it does not mean that. It means he received Eddie's message and thought it was a night action. Since he received no PM from the mod regarding his action, his action could have malfunctioned. It's entirely plausible.

I'm not sure he ever put it this way.

If you read between the lines, you get it. We had a discussion with Iece earlier about it.

Wisdom · Post Post #4267 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:08 am

↑ TierShift wrote:No, you do NOT fucking ASSUME your action malfunctioned.

What would you assume if you got no PM about whether you were targeted as well as a message that looks like a night action?

ISO · Post Post #4268 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:21 am

I'd assume the mod forgot :/

ISO · Post Post #4269 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:22 am

Didn't shos say he had a fight with the mod about this issue? I have trouble believing that actually happened. The mod's response should have been "you weren't targeted by a night action so I didn't say you were"?? I don't fucking know

ISO · Post Post #4270 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:24 am

btw I currently suspect tier/shos is scum theater as tier knows he's toast. "look at the people on my wagon despite the case I just presented on shos, but don't look at wisdom for doing the same thing" = uhh nope

Wisdom · Post Post #4271 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:25 am

That's what he means by a "fight".. he asked why he didn't get notified he was targeted since he got a message and was therefore targeted. Magua couldn't tell him anything so it confused shos.

Wisdom · Post Post #4272 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:25 am

Nah tier is scum and shos is town

ISO · Post Post #4273 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:25 am

then again i guess that would preclude reck from being scum because the power roles probably aren't all real

pedit: I don't see why the mod couldn't tell him that

Wisdom · Post Post #4274 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:27 am

Even if the mod told him that, shos would be left in confusion "But I was targeted? You just sent me a message that was a result of a night action?"

And Magua couldnt expand, what would he say, "that wasn't a night action"? He can't.

Player	Role Flavor	Role	Additional role	Additional info
Katsuki	"When the mod forgets to lock the thread"	1-shot Thread Unlocker	Miller	Lynched D1
Bins	"When the mod ties alignment to flavor"	Conditional Cop		Killed N1
Cabd	"When the mod doesn't replace lurkers"	Limited Vote Mover		Lynched D2. Could control the votes of players who haven't posted in 48 hours
Rhinox	When the mod plays favorites"	Loud Doctor		Killed N2
LIVING PLAYERS:
Cephrir	"When the mod messes up the VC"	Vote Switcher	Miller	Switched shos and NS' votes on N2
GreyICE	"When the mod doesn't replace players before the night ends"	Night-Action Cop		N1: Tbone has a night ability N2: notscience does not have a night ability
Iecerint	"When the mod gives results to the wrong player"	Amnesiac Tracker		Chooses both the tracked person and who gets the result. N1 tracked Ceph, gave to Tbone N2 tracked Reck, gave to Rhinox
notscience			Hated	GreyICE says he has no night actions
shos	"When the mod confirms the action to the wrong player"	Modified Self-Watcher		The ability counts as active. Not targetted N1. Not targetted N2.
T-Bone	"When the mod forgets a night action"	Roleblocker		Blocked Eddie N1 Blocked Rhinox N2 Claimed to have received Iecerint's Track result - Ceph went nowhere.
TierShift	"When the mod forgets to send a role PM"	1-shot self-inventor		1s ability has yet to be invented
Wisdom	"When the mod just has to comment"	Messenger		Messaged Reck D1 Messaged shos D2
xRECKONERx	"When the mod keeps score"	Points Awarder		Controlled the 'score' thingie