Mini 1677 - Ori and the Blind Forest Mafia - Forest Revived

[singersigner]

Like, obviously scum have to confirm at some point, so there has to be scum who confirm early, but I've seen games like 4-5 years ago where scum have specifically held off to prolong game start and the end to their discussion. Bookitty, Andy, Plum...I can't be the only one who's ever seen this from a scum team. I know it's been a long time since I've played a regular mafia game with regular rules, but I swear I'm not crazy!

I was literally just adding my confirmation to the pot so it was one less person they could rely on to prolong it. Is that what this whole discussion is about? My explanation for not being inclusive into the game yet?

I wasn't saying OR IMPLYING that made me town. I was literally just supposing that hypogenic or ZZZX could've been the token one, which isn't substantiated from the original theory, but isn't an RVS vote in my opinion because it's meant to spark that bit of fear and paranoia based on "did she catch me" which would then give me what I need to read them. I'm...sorry you're having such a hard time understanding that. Or are you purposefully being dense about the difference between the two occurrences?

Preview Edit:
Ok I think I assumed there should've been a comma there and wasn't sure if you were talking to me or Bookitty. I think I explained at the beginning of the game that I haven't seen or played with anyone in like three years? I might've played with Bookitty at that point, so...I guess I'd group her in with hypogenic for activity and requiring more at this point? Why her in particular? What else am I avoiding?

[Metal Sonic]

Yes I googled ori to flavor hunt and I am very persuaded to play it


But I am a study kid so I do not have much of time

[Frogging Mollie]

heads up - don't make it a site war cos that is unfun for every1.

I'm going to try to refrain from getting into a belittling match with you

So we're in agreement then let's not have any wars. There's a reason I self-hammered D3...didn't find my newbie game fun at that point. I want to have fun here.

I like elusive, she brings a fun approach to theory. I will say, if we're using occam's razor (on a personal note, I think I see too much appeal to occam's razor in this game) then I think singer's telling the truth that she /confirm'd only to confirm quickly and not appear scum. I trust that she believes in GIF's theory, and it's not like the theory is completely bunk. It makes sense if people are actually playing straight up. The problem comes in with WIFOM. Could singer be WIFOMing us with it? Sure. But I don't believe singer to do that. In fact, I have RL reason to believe her quick confirm is legit.

I also believe elusive to be town trying to sort alignment from it. I feel good about both singer and elusive town.

Either way, it would be cool to see some numbers on said theory.

[Frogging Mollie]

Hey, Froggypie, 139 has a thing for you to answer.

You were addressing Mollie half. I'll let her answer it.

[Grib]

Isn't the point of hydra'ing that you review and discuss everything with each other, but answer as one head? Or is that a stylistic option?

[Metal Sonic]

I am the first to confirm therefore I am the first to be on everyone's townlist



To avoid this being rated as a spampost: frogger, how independent are you at playing the game and hunting scum? How confident are you at finding scum without handholding from mollie? Because she is setting a wrong example by calling me scum (not a bad example cause all mistake can be learned from) but either your slot is scum or she will go "oops oh well" at the end of the game and everyone will learn

[singersigner]

unvote
vote: Metal Sonic

[Metal Sonic]

I am not feeling good about this game because I don't have any strong townreads

Like they are only townreads but nobody has ever hit the strong town market except singer




Pedit: hi singer I am town!

[Frogging Mollie]

Isn't the point of hydra'ing that you review and discuss everything with each other, but answer as one head? Or is that a stylistic option?

I think you can figure it out.

Besides...as an absolute and complete newb, there's no way I could answer your question anyway. If it's the one I think you're asking in 139.

[Grib]

Plum: what am I?

[singersigner]

Pedit: hi singer I am town!

Why are you appealing to Fro99er to change Mollie's read on you when admittedly she has a much bigger/arguably better arsenal of reading you?

[Grib]

Isn't the point of hydra'ing that you review and discuss everything with each other, but answer as one head? Or is that a stylistic option?

I think you can figure it out.

Besides...as an absolute and complete newb, there's no way I could answer your question anyway. If it's the one I think you're asking in 139.

Hydras are a pain.

There is no 'I think.' Only one part of the post is addressed to you (mollie), so it should be super obvious. And when I say obvious, I mean you can't possibly miss it. Unlike singer's brand of obvious. :P

[Frogging Mollie]

To avoid this being rated as a spampost: frogger, how independent are you at playing the game and hunting scum?

Quite. Newbie 1593. I pegged scum D1. I pegged scum in a RL game with singer (nacho). I'm Glork's brother, a scumhunting master. I'd like to think I've got half as good genes as him.

How confident are you at finding scum without handholding from mollie?

I don't need handholding. I'm not afraid to make mistakes...it just took me a while to respond at first because I was trying to dig through a bunch of meta I didn't understand (and I wasn't used to the pace either). But I do appreciate learning more about mafia theory from Mollie. That is the reason I hydra'd with her. It's also nice to be in a game outside of newbie hell.

Because she is setting a wrong example by calling me scum (not a bad example cause all mistake can be learned from) but either your slot is scum or she will go "oops oh well" at the end of the game and everyone will learn

I read you as scum as well. Mollie and I discussed that one (as she said). I like where our vote is for now. And we're town.

[Frogging Mollie]

There is no 'I think.' Only one part of the post is addressed to you (mollie), so it should be super obvious.

As I figured. So I'll let Mollie answer, as I said.

[Metal Sonic]

I am not! Frogger is going to defer to Mollie's read on me and Mollie will be stubborn about it and I know it so I won't even try that angle even if I were scum.

I think I like frogger and I want to know how ready is he to stand on his feet? Cos I also am involved in a hydra-newbie-teaching account so I learn how these things work.


I want to see how he thinks about the rest of the game. It is fun to play with these players

[Frogging Mollie]

I like frogger.

Gonna townread Mollie. Her read on me still sucks though.

To avoid this being rated as a spampost: frogger, how independent are you at playing the game and hunting scum? How confident are you at finding scum without handholding from mollie? Because she is setting a wrong example by calling me scum (not a bad example cause all mistake can be learned from) but either your slot is scum or she will go "oops oh well" at the end of the game and everyone will learn

Pedit: hi singer I am town!

Why are you appealing to Fro99er to change Mollie's read on you when admittedly she has a much bigger/arguably better arsenal of reading you?

Feels like MS is trying to buddy me and get me to persuade Mollie to reconsider our stance on him. Feels scummy.

@MS: If you want us to reconsider our stance on you, you need to do something towny. That wasn't it.

[Metal Sonic]

I am being obviously townie and Mollie's failure to read me is her fault not mine. And it is pretty grievous if I think about it.

[singersigner]

Does that make her scum or wrong?

[elusive]

I like that question

[Yukari]

Yukari, could you do me a favor and just explain your MS vote? Thanks.

We don't think he is really scumhunting, and there are other things we might disclose later. Also, singersigner is leaning town.

Yukari,

Who do you think is my "scum buddy"?

Asked you first scum.

[Metal Sonic]

Right now I'm leaning wrong.

[Metal Sonic]

Oh yeah? I am hunting scum. I am hunting you.

[Yukari]

Yeah, no.

Why should we trust anyone when atm the only role we can be sure of is our own?

Yukari, who do you trust the least and why? Is there any other reason your vote is on Metal Sonic?
See our previous post.

[Yukari]

Yeah, no.

Why should we trust anyone when atm the only role we can be sure of is our own?

Yukari, who do you trust the least and why? Is there any other reason your vote is on Metal Sonic?

See our previous post.

[Grib]

Because that's how the game works.