League of Legends (Old)

[PJ.]

I heard fizz beats him too.

[Iecerint]

Fizz isn't so bad anymore now that grievous wounds is gone. I used to always pick Jayce into Fizz, though.

[hitogoroshi]

J4 does really well against vlad

[FakeGod]

I dunno about this "wait to outscale ren" thing

for example, when I laned vs trynd as ren, I died lv 1 due to him getting crit 3 times in a row

he still couldn't come even close to dueling me when we were both 3.5 items in when he was trying to split push

[hiplop]

Azir I find to be incredibly challenging to face as vlad.

[Llamarble]

Nasus also does very well against Renekton.

[PJ.]

Thought so but wasn't sure

[JasonWazza]

Skarner is an infuriating cunt.

http://matchhistory.oce.leagueoflegends ... b=overview

Basically every death (barring i think 1) i was skarner ult'd and then Ashe Ult'd (or the other way around).

"Counter Play"

[Maestro]

Don't be in a position where Skarner can ult you / dodge Ashe ult?

[quadz08]

^

[Gendaberry]

New Ashe is dumb as hell in soloqueue. I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up near permabanned before she gets nerfed, this champ is ridiculous.

[quadz08]

she's already permaban or firstpick in low elo

[DeathNote]

How is Ashe strong? I played her a couple times after rework and still got stomped but thats just because I can't adc worth a damn.

[Iecerint]

Her damage and laning aren't noticeably nerfed for now much self-peel and utility she brings. She has more burst damage now due to her Q. Her sustained DPS late-game is a little weaker on average because of how the crit passive works.

[Psyche]

I find as-nooby-as-me ashes relatively easy to deal with by hanging behind minions until some moment during one of her cooldowns or as teemo stealthing until she gets too close/walks into a mine; having teemo's blinding dart is pretty helpful against her basic attacks with their slow; and during a teamfight she must be killed before anyone else.

but she seems to decimate everyone else on my team and makes handling and especially escaping multiple opponents really hard

[Psyche]

thoughts on jayce?

[FakeGod]

he's the best champion in the game

[Psyche]

-_-

[FakeGod]

he has a ranged attack, melee attack, powerful poke, auto-attack steroid, attack reseter, gap maker, gap closer, slow, displacement, team-wide speedboost, and a strong early/mid/late game

[Klazam]

He also has 7 alibities, which is plain too much for me

[Psyche]

it does sound fun it really does sound fun

[Iecerint]

Orianna is good against Vlad, too.

[Psyche]

i got
heimer!

[ActionDan]

Ewwww

[Iecerint]

Psyche's dream is to play every obnoxious laner in the game.

Get Darius next, and then Blitzcrank support.