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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 12:37 pm

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Metal Sonic wrote::/

Mollie is antagonizing me like I trying really hard not to spam here


She's using mollieclout to push a free day 1 ms mislynch? Like look at all my past game a wagon on me d1 is a wagon on town me. Mollie should know this better and town Mollie should have disengaged already (she just unvoted, so that counts too, but ugh)


mollie doesnt disengage untill you either turn town or she gets her lynch fyi.

so ya, i find your point to be mostly bias.

like if you want a lynch we can do hydra but im not touching the molie lynch with a 20 foot poll

pedit: sigh if we are all going to be subjected to yukari should i jsut iso and role hunt?
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 12:39 pm

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ika wrote:like if you want a lynch we can do hydra but im not touching the molie lynch with a 20 foot poll

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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 12:40 pm

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im heading out i will iso when i get home if im not in bad state of mind

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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 12:40 pm

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Well yeah I know I might be bias so I want you guys to get yukari.

I am pretty upset for 2 reasons:

Pple are lynching me
Pple are not helping me lynch yukari

I am less upset because some of this has been solved but ika you are really disappointing me


Ps: I disappointed you too but like I said Mollie is antagonizing me hard
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 12:42 pm

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singersigner wrote:@WNI...why ZZZX? Did I miss it?


Ah, ok I agree with your assessment about TvS since I fucking hate that shit and 1v1s are inherently anti-town forever and ever. But wouldn't the bussing theory be quashed the second one flips town?

I think it's more a copout that he doesn't assess which one is town and which one is scum, than anything.

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hydra, ZZZX, and yukari all seem like default lynches without a whole lot to go on? If anything I'd rather do Bookitty because she has been pretty lackluster and "overexplainy" which I've ~heard~ ( :shifty: ) is a scumtell for people...
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 12:44 pm

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Ok well yukari less so because of his engagement with MS, I'm just projecting from the newbie game I just remembered. :igmeou:

But ZZZX and hydra have not reeeaaally done anything noteworthy? I'd even like Andy to come back and engage more, but again, I'm talking about default mislynches for scum. Unless you can really point me to where either have shown signs to be scum...
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 12:46 pm

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@Everyone, assuming we are town and MS is lying about seeing our role, would you think there is any chance MS could still be town?
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 12:49 pm

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Mmmm...no ok I can actually get on board with any lynch for ~reasons~ other than Fro99er and maybe Plum because she likes me right now.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 12:50 pm

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I guess by default ika but I don't really know ika that well so a very precautionary not-on-board stance. >_>
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 12:50 pm

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singersigner wrote:Ah, ok I agree with your assessment about TvS since I fucking hate that shit and 1v1s are inherently anti-town forever and ever. But wouldn't the bussing theory be quashed the second one flips town?

I think with the bussing theory it's more "push both of them as scum at the same time so that one of them gets lynched". it'd obviously be disproved once one flips town, but the goal is more to get people to lynch either of them and then leave it at that as opposed to getting both of them lynched

singersigner wrote:But ZZZX and hydra have not reeeaaally done anything noteworthy? I'd even like Andy to come back and engage more, but again, I'm talking about default mislynches for scum. Unless you can really point me to where either have shown signs to be scum...

I didn't like Hydrangea's reads list; it felt like it was derived from everyone else's opinions at that point and putting both MS and Yukari as scum in particular felt way too easy. I agree it'd be good to hear specifically *why* she has the reads she has.

in general, I currently think both MS/Yukari are town and really want to go for a wagon outside of there at this point. I'd also support a Boo wagon.
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 12:51 pm

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Yukari wrote:@Everyone, assuming we are town and MS is lying about seeing our role, would you think there is any chance MS could still be town?

also, this is just as I said before

MS was pretty fucking obviously joking about "seeing your role". I know you think he lied, but that's really all there is to it - he wasn't being serious.
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 12:55 pm

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Got company over so will likely not be very active again till 2nite or 2moro.
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 1:28 pm

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OK,

I am replacing out. Hope this is better for everyone.


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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 1:41 pm

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Turns out I can't do that


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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 1:44 pm

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uh

what
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 1:46 pm

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is Ank even online atm?

or why can you supposedly not replace out
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 1:48 pm

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I asked 5 listmods
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 1:50 pm

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either way: you know just as well as I do that I won't let you get lynched if I think you're town here. the only reason I haven't done anything yet is bc I don't really have strong feelings for you being town - and I'm kind of hoping Brian gets here soon so he can help me confirm/deny it before I do anything to shut down the wagon on you.

p-edit: why would you ask a listmod if you could replace out of the game? and why didn't you do this before actually replacing out?
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 1:54 pm

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Because I am pretty derpy! I'll explain it after the game if you guys are still interested.
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 1:57 pm

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I would have pounced on myself for the above request too, it sounds dodgy as fuck, but everything has a reason.

I'm pretty unsure as to my feelings on Mollie.



W.r.t yukari, I don't know how you can even consider that they are town when they have literally fuck-all except for garbage posts and being blatantly wrong their entire ISO? Like, even Mollie isn't doing fuck-all. The keyword is doing fuckall
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 2:09 pm

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I reread mollie just now. I'm actually really not happy with her (and I'm not really fond of frog's posts, either, although I think it might just be playstyle) - way less so than Yukari, who I think is likely town mostly bc even though what he's pushing is blatantly wrong I don't see some parts of it coming from scum

I think I'm seeing exactly what you first saw re: her. I see her pushing you as scum but I don't actually see a reason anywhere: just "lol this is MS' scumgame" while writing a lot of words about irrelevant stuff to cover it up. frog's posting is the same way ( specifically made me think this, but as I said idk if this is just playstyle or not). I also really fucking hate her attitude towards elusive in general when elusive didn't actually do anything to deserve it, it feels really out of place - as if she's faking it.

the only thing I think looks town is the paragraph in about myself, bc I can see why she would think that - but even then, calling someone defending the mislynch you want to push scum with them is a good way of discrediting them.
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 2:10 pm

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eep

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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 2:20 pm

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MetalSonic,

1. I think you should calm down and either go on a temporary VLA or think before you post.

2. Your reaction to light pressure was bizarre. You basically did a combo of frenzied posts, AtE, fixating on a newbie\possible mislynch bait, and claiming\fake claiming a character at a point when you weren't in deep danger. Honestly, the possibility of your claim being true and no cc is the only reason I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.

3. I'm not sure about list mods but if you're head isn't in the game then take a deep breath, PM Anakamius and just wait and think your actions out. There are some mods who take the request seriously and replace you regardless if you change your mind later on.

4. If you are staying in the game, stop pulling these shenanigans and engaging in theater. No one listens to, except maybe scum, to people who are screaming\etc or don't provide logical and sensible cases. Not only that I find players who scream scum and give weak cases or don't do their research to be scummy. Stagnant reads is also scummy.

For example, I asked you to look at Yukari's meta and give your thoughts. Has that new information altered your perception? Did you even look and consider?


Mollie hasn't even posted much recently around your replace request timing so I'm not sure why you keep repeating that she's antagonizing you when that was in the past. The fact that she's on your wagon is one of the reasons I'm trying to engage with you and try to figure you out but you aren't making it easy. I'll ask again did you look at Yukari's meta?

It just feels like a lot of flail with you and without any tangible reasons for why.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 2:24 pm

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yo elusive, do you still wanna chat?
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 2:27 pm

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Do you know MS well? What do you think of my post to him above, particularly why he claimed at pretty low pressure and also why he fixates on Yukari without having done some research to back up his alleged scum read?

Also, what do you think of this:

singersigner wrote:Mmmm...no ok I can actually get on board with any lynch for ~reasons~ other than Fro99er and maybe Plum because she likes me right now.


It pinged me as off and continues to do so.
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