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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 2:40 pm

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elusive wrote:Do you know MS well? What do you think of my post to him above, particularly why he claimed at pretty low pressure and also why he fixates on Yukari without having done some research to back up his alleged scum read?

MS and I have played a fair amount with each other. in general, I think most of what you're accusing him of is playstyle as opposed to alignment-related. the first thing is

elusive wrote:2. Your reaction to light pressure was bizarre. You basically did a combo of frenzied posts, AtE, fixating on a newbie\possible mislynch bait, and claiming\fake claiming a character at a point when you weren't in deep danger. Honestly, the possibility of your claim being true and no cc is the only reason I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.

I think this was done primarily due to conviction as opposed to anything else - he thinks Yukari is scum and thinks by claiming the main character it will give him credibility to lynch him/stop people from wanting to lynch him instead. I also think *if* he's scum here, he was going for this as opposed to doing it for strategic reasons (i.e. he's either town, or scum faking it). the claim itself is null due to how theme games work - often flavor isn't tied to alignment or major characters are left out of the game and provided to scum as safe claims - but the way he did it was also null.

I think the way he was "flailing" here is also playstyle. he generally reacts very strongly as town in situations where a lot of players wouldn't - which leads to people thinking he's flailing and lynching him as a result. I also think he thought he was in more danger than he is (he's the leading wagon and a lot of other people seem to be questioning him) - I buy that he saw the wagon on him and saw the "writing on the wall", so to speak.

elusive wrote:4. If you are staying in the game, stop pulling these shenanigans and engaging in theater. No one listens to, except maybe scum, to people who are screaming\etc or don't provide logical and sensible cases. Not only that I find players who scream scum and give weak cases or don't do their research to be scummy. Stagnant reads is also scummy.

if you're asking MS to do research to confirm/deny his scum reads, you're asking the wrong person

I don't think stagnant reads are, by nature, scummy. if nothing is happening to change your reads, you shouldn't have to change them. I get accused of that all the time (both by town, and alternatively scum trying to discredit me by claiming I'm "tunneling") and my reaction is always the same - that nothing happened to make me second guess/question my reads. in MS's case, I don't think he had much of a reason to reevaluate the Yukari read so far sans the meta you're linking him.

elusive wrote:Also, what do you think of this:

I don't think there's anything off about it. why does it strike you as off?
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 2:56 pm

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Usually I work by trying to figure out who is town but I'm also very questioning of wagons and how they form and why.

Singer's "open to lynch anyone except 2" seems a little weird to me as it takes away the responsibility of having strong thoughts on more then two players (Frogging Mollie and Plum - as well as buddying Plum) and a little too passive. There are more town then scum so why is she at this point - when there is enough content to work with - not narrowing down who she thinks is scummy?

Ugh, the way you describe MetalSonic, I'll have to look him up as well. It just seems like playstyle that is a little anti-town.
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 3:09 pm

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Mod: V/LA for the weekend.


Won't have computer access until Monday.
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 3:11 pm

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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 3:50 pm

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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 3:51 pm

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Vote Count 1.8


Metal Sonic (3)
- Yukari, singersigner, ika
Yukari (3)
- Metal Sonic, ZZZX, Hydrangra
White Night Imagination (2)
- elusive, Plum
ZZZX (2)
- Andrius, White Night Imagination
Plum (1)
- Grib
Andrius -
Bookitty -
elusive -
Frogging Mollie -
Grib -
Hydrangea -
ika -
singersigner -


Not Voting (2): Bookitty, Frogging Mollie

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2015-06-04 11:00:00) from now, or June 4th, 11:00 AM CST (GMT-6).


Plum is V/LA until May 25

Grib is V/LA until May 25


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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 3:57 pm

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ika wrote:
Hydrangea wrote:ika - your vote on me seems pretty weak considering how many other players there are with actual content to read and consider, you could have made a more informed decision based on people with content. But I don't fault you for doing something to try get me more into the game. Am I correct in assuming your vote on me stems from my lack of activity?


before i forget about this

yes it does, my vote did stem from your lack of activity. how many gaames of mafia have you played?

town or scum?

got any reads yet?


All those are answered in the 281 you pulled your quote from
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 4:05 pm

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I found a tablet with a wireless keyboard. Yay.

Sonic feels like total mislynch bait, and both his and Yukari's reasons for calling each other confscum or whatever are all pretty bad. The back-and-forth wall war is painful to read and mostly just a bunch of 'no u.'

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bookitty

Throwing a lot of shade about who she thinks is scummy, but not really backing anything up with a vote or even simple questions. Self-conscious about her lack of presence. Her talk of rereading the entire game looks more like an excuse to constantly be in a state of catch-up (and thus making it
look
like she's trying to contribute) instead of engaging in what's happening presently. makes no sense to me; she called Metal Sonic possible scum, but is making deals with him on where to place her vote? This is where she should be pressuring him, or her other scumread elusive, or asking either of them questions, or
something
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Awaitng her promised catch-up post, as well as her response to my suspicions here.
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 4:58 pm

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White Night Imagination wrote:(I'm not really fond of frog's posts, either, although I think it might just be playstyle)

What exactly aren't you fond of? And why?

I think I'm seeing exactly what you first saw re: her. I see her pushing you as scum but I don't actually see a reason anywhere: just "lol this is MS' scumgame" while writing a lot of words about irrelevant stuff to cover it up.

I guess you missed 50 where it all started, and MS's subsequent OMGUS AtE, which really was pure gold. All that was well before "MS scumgame meta" which became a later part of our push on MS.

I also really fucking hate her attitude towards elusive in general when elusive didn't actually do anything to deserve it, it feels really out of place - as if she's faking it.

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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 5:13 pm

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singersigner wrote:Also, apparently I've played with more people than I thought because now that I remember Yukari, I was in the newbie game with them I think last fall and they were mislynched for being..."off" if I remember correctly. I have a hard time associating "one-off" games I've played with people and remembering much about them. >_>

Actually, Yukari was VT (like you in that game), but they were endgamed. I'm digging through to see if they were scumread at any point (and if so, why). Or if they were town read the whole way through and if that playstyle fits the current playstyle in any way.
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 5:59 pm

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5 mins i might or mihgt now have a post

if i dont expet me to post ommorow
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 6:07 pm

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Just an fyi im paritaly durnk atm so if i come off abraisve/jerkish i do not mean it intentionaly. Im aware enought to be consius but now awrare enough to know if im bein dick


Yukari wrote:@Everyone, assuming we are town and MS is lying about seeing our role, would you think there is any chance MS could still be town?


truth is, i dont give a flying fuck about assumptions on day 1. i rahter deal with facts and truth. so unless if your speaking in abosloute fuck that

singersigner wrote:I guess by default ika but I don't really know ika that well so a very precautionary not-on-board stance. >_>


claurify what you mean by this?

Metal Sonic wrote:Because I am pretty derpy! I'll explain it after the game if you guys are still interested.


yes i fully expect an explimation post game, i take your relace then not as null but seriously, take mollie off for day fucking one and tell me (yes i know yuari but someon eslse as fuckign well)

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singersigner wrote:Also, apparently I've played with more people than I thought because now that I remember Yukari, I was in the newbie game with them I think last fall and they were mislynched for being..."off" if I remember correctly. I have a hard time associating "one-off" games I've played with people and remembering much about them. >_>

Actually, Yukari was VT (like you in that game), but they were endgamed. I'm digging through to see if they were scumread at any point (and if so, why). Or if they were town read the whole way through and if that playstyle fits the current playstyle in any way.


what?

also frogger mollie is still town to me

ill get to hydra respons in a sec
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 6:08 pm

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Boo if you dont give damned read list in y9our next pst im prob voting you. i know you as town have the potential to wreck shit but right now you havent amazed me
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 6:11 pm

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ok @yukari

i read it and meh im too drunk to give a in deph on it but its goood enoufh got now.

but one question:

gun to head: am i town or scum?

UNVOTE:

i need to reval everyone reads wehn im sobered thers to mant town/nulls
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 6:16 pm

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if anyone in game is here plz talkt o me
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 6:18 pm

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I am here but I don't think you want to talk to me :(
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 6:30 pm

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Metal Sonic wrote:I am here but I don't think you want to talk to me :(


Ill talk to you as long as its not about fucking molie. cus ill state right now, you are do drop her untill i sort her myself

how about this, talk to me about andy, yukari, plume, booitty, hydra

if you cast mollie is bad light about trying to lynch you after she unvoted i will move my damn vote back
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 6:32 pm

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ika wrote:
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singersigner wrote:Also, apparently I've played with more people than I thought because now that I remember Yukari, I was in the newbie game with them I think last fall and they were mislynched for being..."off" if I remember correctly. I have a hard time associating "one-off" games I've played with people and remembering much about them. >_>

Actually, Yukari was VT (like you in that game), but they were endgamed. I'm digging through to see if they were scumread at any point (and if so, why). Or if they were town read the whole way through and if that playstyle fits the current playstyle in any way.


what?

I will explain this to you slowly.

Singer said she was in a game with Yukari.
Singer thought she remembered that Yukari got mislynched (as in, town getting lynched).
I looked up that game and Yukari was town.
But Yukari was not lynched and was endgamed instead.
The rest is me saying I was going to read that game for playstyle reads on Yukari.

What are you drinking? I'd like some (no, seriously, I would like some. It's 1am and I'm still not tipsy!).
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 6:33 pm

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^^Frogger (obv)
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 6:34 pm

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LOL I'm not tipsy. Just dumb. Sorry for posting from my Fro99er account by accident.

Spoiler: stupid Fro99er
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singersigner wrote:Also, apparently I've played with more people than I thought because now that I remember Yukari, I was in the newbie game with them I think last fall and they were mislynched for being..."off" if I remember correctly. I have a hard time associating "one-off" games I've played with people and remembering much about them. >_>

Actually, Yukari was VT (like you in that game), but they were endgamed. I'm digging through to see if they were scumread at any point (and if so, why). Or if they were town read the whole way through and if that playstyle fits the current playstyle in any way.


what?

I will explain this to you slowly.

Singer said she was in a game with Yukari.
Singer thought she remembered that Yukari got mislynched (as in, town getting lynched).
I looked up that game and Yukari was town.
But Yukari was not lynched and was endgamed instead.
The rest is me saying I was going to read that game for playstyle reads on Yukari.

What are you drinking? I'd like some (no, seriously, I would like some. It's 1am and I'm still not tipsy!).

Fro99er wrote:^^Frogger (obv)
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 6:38 pm

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Fro99er wrote:
ika wrote:
Frogging Mollie wrote:
singersigner wrote:Also, apparently I've played with more people than I thought because now that I remember Yukari, I was in the newbie game with them I think last fall and they were mislynched for being..."off" if I remember correctly. I have a hard time associating "one-off" games I've played with people and remembering much about them. >_>

Actually, Yukari was VT (like you in that game), but they were endgamed. I'm digging through to see if they were scumread at any point (and if so, why). Or if they were town read the whole way through and if that playstyle fits the current playstyle in any way.


what?

I will explain this to you slowly.

Singer said she was in a game with Yukari.
Singer thought she remembered that Yukari got mislynched (as in, town getting lynched).
I looked up that game and Yukari was town.
But Yukari was not lynched and was endgamed instead.
The rest is me saying I was going to read that game for playstyle reads on Yukari.

What are you drinking? I'd like some (no, seriously, I would like some. It's 1am and I'm still not tipsy!).


ok that make sense, i prsume this is mollie? mollie if it is can you give me an idea of where you are atm?

as for what i have been drinking, it was poker night so im about 3-4 margaitas in as well as a shot of somethign (i dont recall) so im very very emotioanl bound atm'

pedti: fucking hell, sigh. can you do me a favor and give me a steamline of read and if possible reasons?
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 6:39 pm

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Lolwut? This is Fro99er.
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 6:39 pm

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ika wrote:
Metal Sonic wrote:I am here but I don't think you want to talk to me :(


Ill talk to you as long as its not about fucking molie. cus ill state right now, you are do drop her untill i sort her myself

how about this, talk to me about andy, yukari, plume, booitty, hydra

if you cast mollie is bad light about trying to lynch you after she unvoted i will move my damn vote back


Andy is Mia. I want to see his comments about all this

Yukari is a scummyscumfuck. I looked at their meta already but I can only post full length on com. Just simply their town play is more like able and confused about who is town or scum. Here they seem like faking confusion about lame stuff like the setup. They also have been doing fuck all the whole game except tunnel on me. No reads in their ISO. In their town games they have townreads. No townreads over here. They are scum basically


Bookitty is my 2nd top scumread. Their 2nd post just hit my scumdar quite bad but I don't know how to explain it. And her recent posts are 0 content so not fantastic.


I like hydra for Sheeping me on yukari so my answer is probably biased so don't ask me. Ps: I think they are town
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 6:47 pm

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Frogging Mollie wrote:Lolwut? This is Fro99er.


check my predit. now be usefull or i will jsut fucking resort to mollie

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Metal Sonic wrote:I am here but I don't think you want to talk to me :(


Ill talk to you as long as its not about fucking molie. cus ill state right now, you are do drop her untill i sort her myself

how about this, talk to me about andy, yukari, plume, booitty, hydra

if you cast mollie is bad light about trying to lynch you after she unvoted i will move my damn vote back


Andy is Mia. I want to see his comments about all this

Yukari is a scummyscumfuck. I looked at their meta already but I can only post full length on com. Just simply their town play is more like able and confused about who is town or scum. Here they seem like faking confusion about lame stuff like the setup. They also have been doing fuck all the whole game except tunnel on me. No reads in their ISO. In their town games they have townreads. No townreads over here. They are scum basically


Bookitty is my 2nd top scumread. Their 2nd post just hit my scumdar quite bad but I don't know how to explain it. And her recent posts are 0 content so not fantastic.


I like hydra for Sheeping me on yukari so my answer is probably biased so don't ask me. Ps: I think they are town



ok let mebe more direct cus i was not looking for "scum/town cus meta"

jsutify the reads outside of god dan metas and if you are goin to pull quote and stuff tat makes it fucking huge plz spoiler it
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 6:51 pm

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I don't understand what you just asked. I don't have meta on anyone. Elusive asked me to look at yukari meta so I am using it to explain what I think of it.
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