Mini 1677 - Ori and the Blind Forest Mafia - Forest Revived

[ZZZX]

i'm pretty ok with rolling over and lynching MS on one condition: when he flips town, we flashlynch the fuck out of mollie tomorrow with no second thoughts

*if* he flips scum, i'm open to suggestions on what i should have to do. although keep in mind i'm not the only one in this slot so don't suggest anything too unreasonable!

massive scum points. I dont even need to tell you whats wrong with that post.

Why hte fuck should we flash wagon mollie here? Mollie isnt a god at reading metal. Shes pretty good but not well enough to make it that mislynch = death. only scum goes that way.

[ZZZX]

zzthing - unsure lean town even tho he is failing miserably in playing to his best.

is our reads being differnt what "not doing the best" or is it about something else?

[elusive]

Well, ika, I trust you and elusive the most. So if you're completely sold on mollie, then I will follow you.

elusive, what say you?

I'm not sold on it, I'm looking at the mollie linked games to see what she's talking about. Like literally reading the game from beginning to end (the first one with ETL).

There's no Ori CC so that bothers me a little bit. If MS flips fucking Ori I don't care about ika or anyone else I will go into full on shank mode.

In general any sort of AtE disgusts me and is like turn off central. So I almost want to spite both and lynch someone else.

I'm also not sure why if MS is town they don't replace out for real? Like if you're town and don't want town to lose then replace out.

[Bellaphant]

What's weird about this is I was a replacement, so clearly it's not prohibited?

[elusive]

I mean let me clear MetalSonic, if this was some scum gambit to fake replace, fake invoke the names of the Mods, bring out of game things into the game then I think we can make sure you're banned for this based on site rules.

I thinks Mods should follow the policy if that someone requests replace in thread, they are replaced asap. No take backs, no theater.

[Grib]

UNVOTE:

I hate everything.

[Bellaphant]

zzzx, why you voting yukaria? Especially if wni has 'massive scum points?'

Grib, why?

[Grib]

Because I'm conflicted.

[Metal Sonic]

Well, ika, I trust you and elusive the most. So if you're completely sold on mollie, then I will follow you.

elusive, what say you?

I'm not sold on it, I'm looking at the mollie linked games to see what she's talking about. Like literally reading the game from beginning to end (the first one with ETL).

There's no Ori CC so that bothers me a little bit. If MS flips fucking Ori I don't care about ika or anyone else I will go into full on shank mode.

In general any sort of AtE disgusts me and is like turn off central. So I almost want to spite both and lynch someone else.

I'm also not sure why if MS is town they don't replace out for real? Like if you're town and don't want town to lose then replace out.

I promise I'm town. I already explained myself.

Replacing out in this position and let another player take this shit? I *think* that I have a better chance of making it through than if I replace out and the slot goes to the next person on the replacement list. There happens to be a replacement list, it's at the first post.

I am really hoping for my heart that Mollie is scum now; since she just said that she is blacklisting me. Like, it's a pseudo scum claim to me or something.

[pieguyn]

In general any sort of AtE disgusts me and is like turn off central. So I almost want to spite both and lynch someone else.

/support

except the turnoff for me is "people blindly trusting other people and their reads without any actual reasoning involved". you have no idea how much what mollie/ika/MS are doing make me want to punch them in the face regardless of what their alignment here actually is

I'm still up for a Boo lynch - and her flipping scum would at the least make it obvious MS is town here. what do you make of ZZZX? I fucking hated his latest post, more or less bc it's yet another easy throwaway angle and doesn't consider the motivation behind what I'm actually doing.

[White Night Imagination]

In general any sort of AtE disgusts me and is like turn off central. So I almost want to spite both and lynch someone else.

/support

except the turnoff for me is "people blindly trusting other people and their reads without any actual reasoning involved". you have no idea how much what mollie/ika/MS are doing make me want to punch them in the face regardless of what their alignment here actually is

I'm still up for a Boo lynch - and her flipping scum would at the least make it obvious MS is town here. what do you make of ZZZX? I fucking hated his latest post, more or less bc it's yet another easy throwaway angle and doesn't consider the motivation behind what I'm actually doing.

oh holy fuck

[White Night Imagination]

huh Boo is at L-3 still

book it

[Metal Sonic]

I mean, she's taking "Mollie is mean" to the next level. So I hope it's intentional to splay my "meta" read of her.

And I apologize again for the AtE. I was not sure how to respond, especially when Mollie's attacks were more emotional-based than logic based. I mean, pie guy just proven that none of her attacks were based on logic; he deftly shot down her accusations. Now she's insulting me and everything and threatening to blacklist, et cetera. If those aren't emotional attacks, I don't know what that is. I think she's pulling out all the stops here. I hope.

[Metal Sonic]

i'm pretty ok with rolling over and lynching MS on one condition: when he flips town, we flashlynch the fuck out of mollie tomorrow with no second thoughts

*if* he flips scum, i'm open to suggestions on what i should have to do. although keep in mind i'm not the only one in this slot so don't suggest anything too unreasonable!

massive scum points. I dont even need to tell you whats wrong with that post.

Why hte fuck should we flash wagon mollie here? Mollie isnt a god at reading metal. Shes pretty good but not well enough to make it that mislynch = death. only scum goes that way.

I don't like you giving scum points to my 2nd best friend. And he is helping me from mean Mollie.

(First place goes to you, but your lurking is damn )

[elusive]

Grib + ika:

Elusive's review of Mollie's linked scum games:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=32581

Mollie + Des hydra (Herself) basically pushed town mislynches on shos and others, was suspicious of scum ETL on day two but ETL massively AtE'ed her way out of it through all caps and theatrics. ETL buddied hard, lurked, feigned ignorance, classic scum tactics through out but town was to busy tearing each other apart. Herself hyda also pushed Reck quite a lot and he has some breakdowns as well. Scum had a spectacular win, even though Broseiden lurked and ETL played badly, because of their suicide gambit. This is why lurkers = scum.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=1825

The second game Mollie linked. I skimmed and ISOed this one. Mastin2 fakes a replace out as scum on day two and does an AtE with "it's not my call boohoo". ETL, as town, interestingly also does a lot of screaming, all caps bolded posts in this one and still engages in some AtE but not crazy levels of it. Forming a player meta on that one.

Overall, this just proves that people who engage in AtE or TMI should be speed lynched. Both scum do the fake replace out dance on day two, in response to being suspected\voted, in one case one weasels out of it and in the other town lynches mastin2 regardless of all the AtE.

This situation would not of course occur if Mods just replaced a player when they engaged in such shenanigans.

Or if town just slit the throats of people who thought anybody gave a fuck about their sob stories.

Now, later tonight I'm going to go through Metal Sonic's last 2-3 games and see what I notice and report back here.

Overall gut says MS not lynch for today due to laim but also partially because I don't see how anyone could be that despicable (fake replace outs like seriously that's so pathetic) but then again people strive to achieve new lows all the time.

Metal Sonic - yeah if you're town replacing out is better because if you're claim is true and town then

anyone

else has a better chance of handling it.

Bookitty might be a viable lynch, I don't like how she threw shade without follow up and I imagine her flip tells us something about mollie. Regardless of ika, I feel better about Mollie mostly because the other head of the hydra, Froggy, seems rational and calm.

Grib let me know what you think, I have a half mind to break some fingers so I need the sweet cop to help me see when enough have been broken . <3

[White Night Imagination]

mostly because the other head of the hydra, Froggy, seems rational and calm.

actually, I don't really see this. fro9's posts felt more like he was just trying to search for reasons to call MS scum and fitting evidence to the conclusion. and outside of that I don't remember him accomplishing much

maybe it's just me, though

[Grib]

Thanks, elusive. I think I'll do some meta diving myself later tonight.

[ika]

Well, ika, I trust you and elusive the most. So if you're completely sold on mollie, then I will follow you.

elusive, what say you?

I'm not sold on it, I'm looking at the mollie linked games to see what she's talking about. Like literally reading the game from beginning to end (the first one with ETL).

There's no Ori CC so that bothers me a little bit. If MS flips fucking Ori I don't care about ika or anyone else I will go into full on shank mode.

In general any sort of AtE disgusts me and is like turn off central. So I almost want to spite both and lynch someone else.

I'm also not sure why if MS is town they don't replace out for real? Like if you're town and don't want town to lose then replace out.

i dont doubt MS is damn orci but thats fucking moot to me.

elusive does this gaem state that a role name is linked to an alignment? if so plz point me towards it otherwise im taking that idea for a gain of fucking salt

[ika]

4.5) All flavor is completely game-irrelevant.

^elusive, game names mean shit

(if if anyone is wondering yes this is near pissed off ika)

[elusive]

If MS doesn't flip scum then Mollie dies, whether you want call it a "Lynch all AtE BS" or "Lynch all people who bring OOG nonsense into game" If you're good with that then let's have MS to L1, have him full claim his role. You good with that?

Also remember that emotions is the one thing I dislike having to deal with in a game. So that well, for this game, has run dry.

[ika]

mollie when you get here talk to me

[ika]

If MS doesn't flip scum then Mollie dies, whether you want call it a "Lynch all AtE BS" or "Lynch all people who bring OOG nonsense into game" If you're good with that then let's have MS to L1, have him full claim his role. You good with that?

Also remember that emotions is the one thing I dislike having to deal with in a game. So that well, for this game, has run dry.

no we lynch his ass. end of story.

if he flips town you guys can go all out, but i will not be on that lynch or any part of it untill its either:
A) lylo and shes alive with me
B) has a guilty on her
C) starts acting in a manner that gives me scum vibes and that makes me doubt her

i refuse to touch the mollie lynch.

[elusive]

pieguyn, I'm looking at the Taylor Swift game right now (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p6698525). You and MS were pretty on point with reads there. MS doesn't post as much as you do but his reads posts is pretty excellent when he does as he nails three scum right away. The ISO is very calm and controlled though, no crazy emotional outbursts.

So are you basing your defense of him one knowing him well? Can you link to games where as town he's had emotional breakdowns?

Bookitty, same game, town ISO (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p6709372). A lot more engaged and on spot with her town reads. Also she's far more relaxed\natural in tone.

Mini 1630 is also another hydra of MS.

Mini 1624 is MS replacing into a near conf town slot. (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p6627479). Many votes, carefree\relaxed attitude, his response to being read as scum is light-hearted, direct phrasing

TwinTrap is MS Vanilla town, also carefree, bold tone. Gets a few rage posts, #2306 and beyond, after his scumread Quilford. He also does meta research and talks about it a lot. He's absolutely wrong about Quilford but he rages all over the place about it, lol.

MS, can you link the your recent scum games? Or the game you mentioned hydra-ing with Mollie? You have a lot of topics so I'm having trouble finding the scum ones. TIA.

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