We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

Plotinus · Post Post #6900 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 8:46 am

there’s a cop innocent (“not mafia”) on drixx from boon (who flipped town), so while there is some small chance that drixx is scum (godfather, werewolf-but-eviscerate-makes-more-sense-than-nuking), so drixx is almost certainly conftown. as the only conftown at this point, he’s the expected nuke from orbit target because tomorrow is LYLO or MYLO.

brantz is thought to be innocent because of his role. and it makes more sense as an sk role than a mafia role. and he’s been acting protown.

so it’s kind of me-you-bbmolla left for scum and i’m townreading you and it’s not me so it’s probably bbmolla. but i’m looking through narninian’s interactions just in case it is berlin left after all. and then i’ll look through werewolf too. this close to LYLO it’s important to re-examine everything.

BBmolla is rereading the game with a focus on you just in case it’s not me. i’m reading dead people looking for interactions, just in case it’s not molla after all. not sure what sort of rereading brantz and drixx are doing.

the reason bbmolla hasn’t been hammered is because multiple people are rereading stuff to prepare for tomorrow.

BBmolla · Post Post #6901 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:48 am

Ivy thinks I'm a Berlin volcano miller?

LOL

BBmolla · Post Post #6902 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 9:48 am

I have lots of time today I know it's a little late but I'm dedicating some time to looking shit over

Plotinus · Post Post #6903 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 10:46 am

we have 11 days left, and i think it’ll still help if you do it. about 87% done looking over the red team and trying to draw conclusions. will post it in an hour or two, maybe less. it’s harder because they didn’t interact much with each other and also didn’t interact much with people who are still alive.

and yeah, if molla is scum then the last scumteam is volcano. berlin volcano miller doesn’t make sense. werewolf volcano miller doesn’t make sense either.

Plotinus · Post Post #6904 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2015 11:31 am

Pirate Ika’s interactions with

Spoiler: some people

nonsensical and unexplained push on drixx on early on followed by buddying. later explained as sheeping om.
called brantz and bulbasaur lynchbait.
didn’t like my vote on drixx
naked vote on brantz and narninian
was angry at narninian for not defending her when ozgin had a guilty on them.

i’m not really seeing anything either damning or clearing with regards to those of us who are alive.

Narninian’s interactions with

Spoiler: some people

voted molla for ability. only interacted with him to talk about his role. claimed to have redirected off bbmolla onto marquis but could have been lying. if telling the truth, eviscerate or incinerate or both were trying to attack bbmolla. if lying, his faction could have been incinerate and he could have redirected his own faction’s kill for town credit.

naked voted brantz.
naked voted drixx, claiming it was just a counterwagon to jackel, later seemed serious about voting drixx
renaked voted brantz, wanted him vigged

listed me as his second choice for a lynch at one point and tried to frame me for ozgin’s death on day 6 (house died at the end of day 3) by claiming to have redirected onto me previously. it looks like he was just saving the day 2 redirect for whoever he wanted to mislynch at a later date; he should have voted me slot on day 4 if he really thought i was guilty. I didn’t understand what was going on when Narninian said that and I felt too dumb to ask but I should’ve.

first interaction with pika is pushing ika for wanting to lynch titus just because he doesn’t like her.

voted pirate after the guilty on them, but asked them if there was any possible explanation they might show up as guilty. didn’t interact with them much before the cop guilty.

barely interacted with any of the living (except to votepark molla and talk about molla’s ability, and to be annoyed and drixx and titus)

so this was a lot harder but it seemed like Narninian and Pirate Ika preferred not to interact with each other unless they had to. They were both mildly negative towards BRantz but otherwise mostly left him alone. Narninian spent what seems like half his posts talking about his votepark on BBmolla which I think is null about BBmolla’s alignment but is interesting in retrospect how little scumhunting he did and how much talking about his votepark he did.

I’m pretty sure BRantz is town and that we don’t have anymore redteam left, though.

Plotinus · Post Post #6905 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 3:34 am

peregrine’s interactions with

Spoiler: some people

voted bulba because of deathfisaro’s confusion. townreads them a bit later.
can’t really tell if he was pushing drixx because he was null or because he thought he was scum
i don’t know why he didn’t like my slot.
didn’t interact with om/elusive at all.

elusive/om of the nom’s interactions with

Spoiler: some people

first mention of peregrine is in 1049 where they complain about his inactivity. they suggest Vyse/Dani/Swagrid/Jackel for Lucian's vig shot because they'd been inactive like Peregrine was, but doesn't suggest Peregrine himself for a vig shot. Elusive also complained of ActionDan's (my) inactivity in 5071 without complaining of Peregrine's, but in 5093 listed him as highly suspect for not taking part in the massclaim. Then in 5125, while going through vonflare's ISO, tries to link vonflare to peregrine as scum buddies. at the time, she was doing this, she was voting me.

Then she goes through Peregrine's ISO and ties him to both vyse and vonflare. then links peregrine and drixx. Ultimately vonflare was lynched that day, elusive the next, and peregrine the day after. I wonder if she saw the end coming for peregrine due to the extreme inactivity and was trying to tie as many people to peregrine as she could.

Om was neutral/positive towards me but elusive didn't like my entrance and didn't like me being bulletproof.
Om only mentioned BC once and elusive only interacted with them a little to cast shade on them mainly.
Om tunnelled Drixx, elusive didn't like him being bulletproof to werewolves.
Neither liked Brantz very much.
Both mostly liked BBmolla.

It looks like elusive treated most of the alive players the same way she treated peregrine, possibly expecting peregrine to be lynched sooner than she was (deathfisaro had a cop guilty on her that's why she was lynched first I think), and hoping to make them seem associated with peregrine. Om didn't really interact with the remaining players except to tunnel on drixx and townread bbmolla.

I think blue team is gone too.

Cuttlefish · Post Post #6906 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 4:14 pm

Vote Count 10.01

BBmolla (1)

- BRantz

Not Voting (4)

: Plotinus, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Drixx, BBmolla

With 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-06-01 21:10:00).

Drixx and BRantz have been prodded.

Drixx · Post Post #6907 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 5:50 pm

I'm here. I don't really have anything to say just at the moment. I'm still trying to make up my mind.

BBmolla · Post Post #6908 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2015 5:53 pm

I haven't had time to do shit, birthday and all.

Sorry.

I'll try to look a bit before I leave for Florida but we'll see

BRantz · Post Post #6909 (ISO) » Sat May 23, 2015 7:53 am

I am still hereally as well. Waiting to see what molla has to say. (Happy Birthday!)

Bulbasaur Commonwealth · Post Post #6910 (ISO) » Sat May 23, 2015 9:17 am

Well it's the weekend so I'm not

really

here, but I sort-of am here.

Drixx · Post Post #6911 (ISO) » Sun May 24, 2015 7:57 am

I think I'm leaning towards BC slightly over Plot atm.

Plotinus · Post Post #6912 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 3:21 am

I'm glad.

Molla, if you're town it would be nice if you posted your thing about BC. you don't have to do it all at once, piecemeal works too.

Are people still reading stuff or are all 5 of us prodging?

Drixx · Post Post #6913 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 4:49 am

I don't like BB's whole promise of post that never comes. A miller claim on day one is a pretty classic scum gambit. The only thing that gives BBmolla town points is the night skip; however, there are scenarios where that would be perfectly fine as a scum ability.

VOTE: BBmolla

Cuttlefish · Post Post #6914 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 7:44 am

Vote Count 10.02

BBmolla (2)

- BRantz, Drixx

Not Voting (3)

: Plotinus, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, BBmolla

With 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-06-01 21:10:00)

Plotinus · Post Post #6915 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 8:00 am

BC, BB, are you guys still reading stuff because

intent to hammer

but i'll wait if you guys are still reading.

BBmolla · Post Post #6916 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 10:35 am

Meet is taking up all my time

I don't see any reason to rush this, give me a couple days please. The only thing you lose is information.

I'll try to set aside time ASAP to readthrough things.

Plotinus · Post Post #6917 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 10:36 am

sure thing, thanks for checking in.

Bulbasaur Commonwealth · Post Post #6918 (ISO) » Tue May 26, 2015 6:43 am

Whoops. Nearly forgot about this game. It somehow slipped out of my visibility. Sorry 'bout that.

But, uh, still sort-of here, but still not sure what I have to add.

Plotinus · Post Post #6919 (ISO) » Tue May 26, 2015 7:00 am

Which head are you? Do you have thoughts on any of the people that are alive? (Drixx, Brantz, BBmolla, me, yourself) Do you think interacting would help?

BBmolla · Post Post #6920 (ISO) » Tue May 26, 2015 7:39 am

↑ Bulbasaur Commonwealth wrote:Whoops. Nearly forgot about this game. It somehow slipped out of my visibility. Sorry 'bout that.

But, uh, still sort-of here, but still not sure what I have to add.

Were kind of just waiting for me to look at things before I'm mislynched, so it's my fault.

I can try to escape everyone some time today or tomorrow to look at things but no promises.

BRantz · Post Post #6921 (ISO) » Tue May 26, 2015 7:26 pm

@mod: I am going to be V/LA from tomorrow until next Monday in Vegas. Will try to check in at least once a day though.

Drixx · Post Post #6922 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 3:07 am

So I was kind of hoping that BBmolla would be inspired by a desire to win and come up with

something

here. If he really is innocent, there aren't many suspects ... surely he can make a case for one of the others?

BBmolla · Post Post #6923 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 3:12 am

I'm still at the meet. Literally getting on bus to Disney world.

I could post pictures?

If I didn't care about town winning I'd self hammer as it is I'm having 3 much fun to do a whole lot I'm vla

Plotinus · Post Post #6924 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2015 5:59 am

I checked the Orlando meetup thread and it seems like it'll be over in a couple days? 29th, 30th, something like that? we have another 5 days to the deadline. I will hammer rather than do no lynch but I don't mind waiting until the deadline is imminent. +Ivysaur said they were going to be away for 10 days ending on the 31st and the deadline is late June 1st (US time) early June 2nd (europe time).

Also, it turns out that this is my only ongoing game at the moment, but I've learned that my personal limit is 3 games and that's how many I'd be in if everything started right now so signing up for more/replacing into something else won't help in the long run.

My fourth game just finished up and I really feel like I've levelled up some as a player. I replaced into this game over a month ago and I was completely and totally lost for a while. I replaced into a newbie game 9 days ago and drove the lynch of a group scum player (who didn't have any votes on him when I replaced in), rescuing the (town) IC from being mislynched in the process. Perfect town win! Remember when I said that I felt like thinking for myself was playing against wincon as town? I no longer feel that way. I don't feel lost in this game anymore but I do feel like I read a lot of it when I was less able to understand what I was reading.

So I'm going to try rereading in order instead of rereading ISOs like I was doing earlier this dayphase. Going to pretend I just subbed in, Plotinus the slightly more experienced replaces Plotinus the village idiot. I will comment on things I find interesting and will try to refrain from commenting on things that are irrelevant no matter how interesting I find them (like a 1v1 between two dead people or something like that).

If hammer time happens before I am done that is ok with me; if BBmolla finishes his V/LA and says all he wants to say then we can hammer for the win or for the moving on into LYLO, or if I'm going to bed and the deadline will happen before I wake up the next morning then I'll hammer.