Inorganic Chemistry [GAME OVER, SCUM WIN]


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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 6:08 am

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The Shielding Effect


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An atom (assuming its atomic number is greater than 2) has core electrons that are extremely attracted to the nucleus in the middle of the atom. However the number of protons in the nucleus are never equal to the number of core electrons (relatively) adjacent to the nucleus. The number of protons increase by one across the periodic table, but the number of core electrons change by periods. The first period has no core electrons, the second has 2, the third has 10, and etc. This number is not equal to the number of protons. So that means that the core electrons feel a stronger pull towards the nucleus than any other electron within the system. The valence electrons are farther out from the nucleus, so they experience a smaller force of attraction.

Shielding refers to the core electrons repelling the outer rings and thus lowering the 1:1 ratio. The nucleus has "less grip" on the outer electrons and are shielded from them.

Shielding describes the amount of screening from nuclear charge that one electron can do with respect to its neighboring electrons. Electrons that have greater penetration can get closer to the nucleus and effectively block out the charge from electrons that have less proximity. For example, Zeff is calculated by subtracting the magnitude of shielding from the total nuclear charge. The value of Zeff will provide information on how much of a charge an electron actually experiences.

Because the order of electron penetration from greatest to least is s, p, d, f; the order of the amount of shielding done is also in the order s, p, d, f.

Since the 2s electron has more density near the nucleus of an atom than a 2p electron, it is said to shield the 2p electron from the full effective charge of the nucleus. Therefore the 2p electron feels a lesser effect of the positively charged nucleus of the atom due to the shielding ability of the electrons closer to the nucleus than itself, (i.e. 2s electron).

These electrons that are shielded from the full charge of the nucleus are said to experience an effective nuclear charge (Zeff) of the nucleus, which is some degree less than the full nuclear charge an electron would feel in a hydrogen atom or hydrogenlike ions. The effective nuclear charge of an atom is given by the equation:

Zeff=Z−S


where

Z is the atomic number (number of protons in nucleus) and
S is the shielding constant
We can see from this equation that the effective nuclear charge of an atom increases as the number of protons in an atom increases. Therefore as we go from left to right on the periodic table the effective nuclear charge of an atom increases in strength and holds the outer electrons closer and tighter to the nucleus. This phenomena can explain the decrease in atomic radii we see as we go across the periodic table as electrons are held closer to the nucleus due to increase in number of protons and increase in effective nuclear charge.


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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 6:18 am

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Yay tere! <3

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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 6:19 am

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ok my motivation is back.

TERE TALK TO ME!
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 6:24 am

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Cerberus v666 wrote:Ike: I have not seen the first game. I suppose looking at the setup and mechanics there could be useful for this game.


first game

for refrence if you would like to see it i was not in it but scums got fucked by a tracker cus nobody was lsitneing to mollie about who had tracker and who was going to be tracked
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 6:25 am

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Hi people!

No running off and sulking on my watch, ika :)
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 6:26 am

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Tere wrote:Hi people!

No running off and sulking on my watch, ika :)


as long as you promise to deal with potential negativity that might arise
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 6:29 am

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You are looking towny so I think I can promise that :P
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 6:46 am

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mastin2 wrote:
Shakira Confirmed wrote:Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
You joke, but 'fun' factoid: I regularly search for mentions of my name. Some of them reference previous events, e.g. "In Mastin's Unbalanced Game". Some of them are misapplying my out-of-date mafia theory in newbies. (Quite a lot, actually.) The rest are referencing previous events as incidents, mimicking my style intentionally, and/or calling a player an alt of mine.

Yes, I read them.
Know how many of those are seen fondly?
Well people seem pretty fond of Hilariously Unbalanced 2, but other than that?

Not so much. My reputation, in fact, is almost at me-from-2009-levels. (Not
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that bad, but...pretty close.) Like,
Shakira Confirmed wrote:Oh and VOTE: mastin for being unbalanced but not hilarious.
You said this as a joke, too.

...You have no clue how much it isn't. Ever heard the term burning bridges? I don't just burn them. I do this to them:

...Except with less heroism involved.

There's a reason I'm using like half a dozen alts these days: because I'm progressively finding that I don't WANT to be mastin anymore--rather, the baggage I have as mastin is too much to carry. One of the main reasons I stick around is that I'm STILL waiting for that one scumgame of mine to show the world, "HA! THIS IS WHAT I MEAN WHEN I SAY I AM A COMPETENT SCUM PLAYER!" Plus I love the community. (I'd never leave it, but I could in theory disappear as Mastin. I have enough established alts that nobody would know.)

Mental instability, I'll admit, does affect my alts, but to such a small degree it's virtually invisible. Mental instability on ME, however......yeah. Not so much. :/

Shakira Confirmed wrote:I wouldn't fake a townslip as scum.
I just wouldn't!
(Actually, I said that for entirely different ~reasons~.)

Dammit you're gorkington aren't you
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 6:47 am

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VOTE: shakira

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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 6:52 am

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yup.
she's gorkington.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:13 am

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If scum is on our wagon, it's Mac. This post reeks.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:19 am

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Gorkington wrote:yup.
she's gorkington.

But so are you o.o
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:27 am

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ika wrote:
Cerberus v666 wrote:Ike: I have not seen the first game. I suppose looking at the setup and mechanics there could be useful for this game.


first game

for refrence if you would like to see it i was not in it but scums got fucked by a tracker cus nobody was lsitneing to mollie about who had tracker and who was going to be tracked


I've had a quick look at Anti's posts there (going to save reading the game I think so I don't get confuzzled). We're lighter on inventors this time around, and also when I looked at the roles they all looked pretty sensible. No mad chemists there anyway! Last time the inventors could basically pass specific things and there was a backup town inventor who got the ability of the first town inventor to be taken out. I guess there's a possibility that if we have fewer they might be more flexible? Dunno. I'm also kinda assuming scum and town will have inventors, I think.

There is also apparently a Molecule of the Month which I think is fucking hilarious. :D
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:30 am

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Jingle's sick and I'm going on vacation, so we'll get to this in a bit.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:31 am

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ika wrote:ok my motivation is back.
Isn't that because Tere is apparently effectively a mollie-alt? :P

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Gorkington wrote:yup. she's gorkington.
But so are you o.o
I decided to crash and burn my reputation by cheating.
:cool:

(No, Anti, I really, really didn't, please don't lock the thread and waste time investigating the obv-joke.)


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you could vote for mastin because she hasnt thrown reads at people yet.
Actually, I have. Just far more subtly than normal. (You'd be surprised how much you can convey in the RVS.)
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:31 am

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Jaqen Hghar wrote:A man is asking a question all must needs answer:

Blue-Red-Green, which is your best for playing and howso?

pirate mollie wrote:yeah

I think I don't want to play mafia anymore

plz replace me


No.


If a man would find this answer helpful, I have no problem answering a man.

My favourite role is vanilla town. I am most relaxed when playing this - I worry about letting town down as a town special and I haven't had a great deal of scum experience.

A question of my own - is a man an alt? I am assuming this is just so?
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:32 am

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Lying Cat wrote:Jingle's sick and I'm going on vacation, so we'll get to this in a bit.
Have a nice trip! Hope your travels are productive.
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:34 am

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I am blowing all the raspberries in the world at mastin right now.

Also I talk in whole sentences. Well. Mostly.

(my play is actually quite different to mollie's, she thinks I'm beep boop. :D)

pedit: get well soon Jingle and have a nice trip!
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:44 am

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Tere. pompoms.

:(
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:44 am

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Sonic Boom wrote:Tere. pompoms.

:(


God you are so needy!

*pompoms*

Better? :P
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:45 am

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mastin2 wrote:Isn't that because Tere is apparently effectively a mollie-alt?



nononono!

tere nice 100% <3

mollie nice 25% :neutral:
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:45 am

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Tere wrote:
Sonic Boom wrote:Tere. pompoms.

:(


God you are so needy!

*pompoms*

Better? :P


pompoms!!

<3<3<3<3<3
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:46 am

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Tere wrote:
ika wrote:
Cerberus v666 wrote:Ike: I have not seen the first game. I suppose looking at the setup and mechanics there could be useful for this game.


first game

for refrence if you would like to see it i was not in it but scums got fucked by a tracker cus nobody was lsitneing to mollie about who had tracker and who was going to be tracked


I've had a quick look at Anti's posts there (going to save reading the game I think so I don't get confuzzled). We're lighter on inventors this time around, and also when I looked at the roles they all looked pretty sensible. No mad chemists there anyway! Last time the inventors could basically pass specific things and there was a backup town inventor who got the ability of the first town inventor to be taken out. I guess there's a possibility that if we have fewer they might be more flexible? Dunno. I'm also kinda assuming scum and town will have inventors, I think.

There is also apparently a Molecule of the Month which I think is fucking hilarious. :D


WHat makes you think light on inventors. From what i recall last game there were 3/4? You think 2-3 now or something?

Tere wrote:I am blowing all the raspberries in the world at mastin right now.

Also I talk in whole sentences. Well. Mostly.

(my play is actually quite different to mollie's, she thinks I'm beep boop. :D)

pedit: get well soon Jingle and have a nice trip!


I would agree you both play slightly diffrent but you both have similar traits as well
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:47 am

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Antihero wrote:There are three inventors in this game. They may or may not be all of the same alignment and there may or may not be other power roles in the setup.
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:48 am

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BTW tere, you will wan tto do your best to avoid sonic boom. I have an idea about some of the players here and they are ones that i would not listen to.

Ill ve here for a while longe thne im going out for poker

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