Mini 1677 - Ori and the Blind Forest Mafia - Forest Revived

[dragonspawn]

its occam razor dragon:

presuming this is true: yukari vigs mollie
this means that mollie is 1-shot BP (and thats the scum role if you read opening)
or
yukari got rb

ah my bad. Thought you were just talking about the nk and not the lack of one from are claimed vigilante.

you're right. If yukari is telling the truth then it doesnt look good for Mollie either way.

[Yukari]

Seriously, anyone who tries to protect mollie at this point is going to earn some scum points from us.

then you can give me a ton of scum points right now.

im going to make this clear for everyone, i still have a gut paranoia that this is all a setup but im not going to stop the lynch like yesterday

That would be a shame if you are town, especially considering our town-read of singer.

[ika]

drangon, what are your reads from town to scum.

im like unconvinced you read the thread and have like no real reads right now

pedit: dont give jack shit yukari, i could easily argue your an sk right now to discredit you.

[dragonspawn]

drangon, what are your reads from town to scum.

im like unconvinced you read the thread and have like no real reads right now

pedit: dont give jack shit yukari, i could easily argue your an sk right now to discredit you.

not an unreasonable request. Will have to be in a little while. Going to sit down at dinner with the wife.

[Yukari]

drangon, what are your reads from town to scum.

im like unconvinced you read the thread and have like no real reads right now

pedit: dont give jack shit yukari, i could easily argue your an sk right now to discredit you.

We are the vig. If we were sk we wouldn't have played so recklessly.

[ika]

drangon, what are your reads from town to scum.

im like unconvinced you read the thread and have like no real reads right now

pedit: dont give jack shit yukari, i could easily argue your an sk right now to discredit you.

We are the vig. If we were sk we wouldn't have played so recklessly.

do you have a history of playing sk?

if not then your answer is WIFOM

[Yukari]

drangon, what are your reads from town to scum.

im like unconvinced you read the thread and have like no real reads right now

pedit: dont give jack shit yukari, i could easily argue your an sk right now to discredit you.

We are the vig. If we were sk we wouldn't have played so recklessly.

do you have a history of playing sk?

if not then your answer is WIFOM

Never played sk before, but the fewer members on our team, the less reckless we play.
Either believe us or not, but we are being honest here, can even remove our vt softclaim as wifom at scum seems less useful at this point. WE ARE THE VIG! Either trust us and get the town closer to winning, or don't and we will be that much closer to scum win.

We are not confident in our ability to out-debate mollie and her supporters so we hope that ppl can either come to this conclusion on their own else take our word for it.

Again, if we are wrong then we are dead D3. Does that sound like a gambit sk would make?

[ika]

Again, if we are wrong then we are dead D3. Does that sound like a gambit sk would make?

Yes and no.

For a first time sk player, unlikely, HOWEVER as a player who has played sk many times, i have seen (and have done it) before as an sk. where i would either realclaim sk and bs my play and play like a vig. or claim vig and do such things just so i can get away with it

[ika]

but im not here to get smatics.

im here to go with occam razor

i want grib and elusive to post and then i can work my way out.

[Yukari]

Again, if we are wrong then we are dead D3. Does that sound like a gambit sk would make?

Yes and no.

For a first time sk player, unlikely, HOWEVER as a player who has played sk many times, i have seen (and have done it) before as an sk. where i would either realclaim sk and bs my play and play like a vig. or claim vig and do such things just so i can get away with it

Don't get why you would claim sk, but then again this is our first non-newbie game. Personally don't care for all the crazy roles and much prefer to stay matrix6 simple. Anyways, if somehow wrong and seriously doubt we are(learned in another game the dangers of second guessing ourselves when bullish managed to eventually flip our read of him resulting in him winning as scum), then we give up. We will self vote and likely ragequit via self-induced lynching cuz duck this game.

[ika]

Again, if we are wrong then we are dead D3. Does that sound like a gambit sk would make?

Yes and no.

For a first time sk player, unlikely, HOWEVER as a player who has played sk many times, i have seen (and have done it) before as an sk. where i would either realclaim sk and bs my play and play like a vig. or claim vig and do such things just so i can get away with it

Don't get why you would claim sk, but then again this is our first non-newbie game. Personally don't care for all the crazy roles and much prefer to stay matrix6 simple. Anyways, if somehow wrong and seriously doubt we are(learned in another game the dangers of second guessing ourselves when bullish managed to eventually flip our read of him resulting in him winning as scum), then we give up. We will self vote and likely ragequit via self-induced lynching cuz duck this game.

Claiming sk as sk is more theory talk on why someone would do it. I can explain later when i have time. right now i have to get ready for work

[ika]

if anyone got fruit they should announce

[Bellaphant]

So, either yukari is not the vig and did not target mollie, so is probably scum, or she is the vig and someone protected mollie. What I don't understand is why yukari is convinced that whoever protected mollie got scum points - she could've been protected by someone who just town reads her, rather than being the BP? Yukari's push for this looks really suspect, and a good way to cover her lack of a kill.

[Bellaphant]

Dragons jump on this not looking good for mollie either way is kinda worrying me too - there has been more consideration in thier other posts, which generally made them a town-read for me.

Also, ika, no fruit.

[ika]

im about to tear a new one if im reading this correct and my presumption is correct

[ika]

So, either yukari is not the vig and did not target mollie, so is probably scum, or she is the vig and someone protected mollie. What I don't understand is why yukari is convinced that whoever protected mollie got scum points - she could've been protected by someone who just town reads her, rather than being the BP? Yukari's push for this looks really suspect, and a good way to cover her lack of a kill.

Easy, cus its was a big agreement that mollie slot should be viged if MS was town.

If a doc is to claim and said to haev protected mollie, im going to question a lot fo things

[Yukari]

So, either yukari is not the vig and did not target mollie, so is probably scum, or she is the vig and someone protected mollie. What I don't understand is why yukari is convinced that whoever protected mollie got scum points - she could've been protected by someone who just town reads her, rather than being the BP? Yukari's push for this looks really suspect, and a good way to cover her lack of a kill.

When we mentioned scum points for protecting mollie, was referring to D2, not about her surviving our vig attempt on her. Bulletproof mollie seems likely given the situation and fact that bulletproof is listen in 2 of the 4 pools. Though RB is also possible. Either way mollie needs to be lynched.

Pedit:
Hopefully there isn't an idiot-doc.

[elusive]

This is why you don't listen to barking.

Knew this already and don't really want to interact with some people in this thread because what I have to say is probably against site rules. But {} imagine the worst and then double that.

pie was the person I was working with now we have some distasteful snot and etc. Let's see what we can do.

VOTE: Frogging Mollie

Want this slot gone, nothing else to say. Then Bookitty who was obvscum from day one, then whichever scumfuck is left over.

[ika]

So, either yukari is not the vig and did not target mollie, so is probably scum, or she is the vig and someone protected mollie. What I don't understand is why yukari is convinced that whoever protected mollie got scum points - she could've been protected by someone who just town reads her, rather than being the BP? Yukari's push for this looks really suspect, and a good way to cover her lack of a kill.

When we mentioned scum points for protecting mollie, was referring to D2, not about her surviving our vig attempt on her. Bulletproof mollie seems likely given the situation and fact that bulletproof is listen in 2 of the 4 pools. Though RB is also possible. Either way mollie needs to be lynched.

Pedit:
Hopefully there isn't an idiot-doc.

just vig boo tonight regradless

[Yukari]

So, either yukari is not the vig and did not target mollie, so is probably scum, or she is the vig and someone protected mollie. What I don't understand is why yukari is convinced that whoever protected mollie got scum points - she could've been protected by someone who just town reads her, rather than being the BP? Yukari's push for this looks really suspect, and a good way to cover her lack of a kill.

When we mentioned scum points for protecting mollie, was referring to D2, not about her surviving our vig attempt on her. Bulletproof mollie seems likely given the situation and fact that bulletproof is listen in 2 of the 4 pools. Though RB is also possible. Either way mollie needs to be lynched.

Pedit:
Hopefully there isn't an idiot-doc.

just vig boo tonight regradless

Just incase of roleblocker, may vig@ either boo or the zzzx slot. Unless someone has better idea.

[Yukari]

Meant in case of someone with night protection ability who may be misreading us as scum or sk, since roleblocker would be targeting us and not our target. Then again we've never looked through all the possible roles used on this site so no idea what kind of powers could be out there. Again, really not a fan of semi-open or closed setups.

[Plum]

Roleblock speculation is on the table. Everything else is off. Who's scum, Yukari or Frogmollie? Serious question.

[Yukari]

Just letting every1 know in advance, will be gone most of 2moro due to cousin's bday.

[Yukari]

Easy, cus its was a big agreement that mollie slot should be viged if MS was town.

If a doc is to claim and said to haev protected mollie, im going to question a lot fo things

Our opinion is that if there is a doc, they shouldn't claim today, because the doc would then be a pretty juicy target for nk. Unless someone has a good reason why doc should claim.

[Grib]

That MS wagon was complete garbage.

I may believe Yukari depending on [redacted]. Standby.