Mini 1677 - Ori and the Blind Forest Mafia - Forest Revived

[Yukari]

Headed to bed in around 20 minutes if any1 wants to ask/discuss anything with us b4 we gone, now is the time. Don't know if we'll have time for morning post before leaving for the day or not.

[Bookitty]

I am sorry I haven't checked in earlier; I've been pretty busy.

I'm going to go on record as saying I <3 Mollie a lot and I have respect for her scumhunting abilities. Dismissing that as "worship", especially when you've said you don't bother with meta much, looks like shallow discrediting to me, Yukari. I don't like it. I'm also not a fan of the lining up lynches thing you have going on right now.

I had really thought that MS would flip scum. The fact that Mollie hasn't weighed in yet is bothering me a lot.

VOTE: Frogging Mollie

@Ika: What do you think Mollie could say at this point? Either she's town who staked everything on a bad read on MS or she's scum. I don't know which, but I will say that this game has tied together people's alignments (MS-Mollie, Yukari-Mollie, even me and you and Mollie) more than any game I've seen lately. I don't know what Mollie could say, which is maybe why she hasn't said anything.

[Yukari]

I am sorry I haven't checked in earlier; I've been pretty busy.

I'm going to go on record as saying I <3 Mollie a lot and I have respect for her scumhunting abilities. Dismissing that as "worship", especially when you've said you don't bother with meta much, looks like shallow discrediting to me, Yukari. I don't like it.

Were calling it friendship meta oog buddying now.. =p
If you so dislike that the word worship was used by us then perhaps you should not in the same post admit to worshipping mollie according to the definition we just gave when we clarified not talkin bout worship in the religious deity the word can also be used:

And by worship, we don't mean ppl think she is a divine creator diety, more like:
Verb
to love or honor (someone or something) very much or too much
to regard with great or extravagant respect, honor, or devotion <a celebrity worshipped by her fans>

[Yukari]

Also, this is just a game to us and we hope nobody takes anything said in-game personally and oog.

[Bookitty]

@Yukari: I believe you're exaggerating the degree to which people like and respect Mollie in the context of the game. I don't buy that you're using charged words accidentally; I think you're trying to discredit by overstating the case.

[Yukari]

@Yukari: I believe you're exaggerating the degree to which people like and respect Mollie in the context of the game. I don't buy that you're using charged words accidentally; I think you're trying to discredit by overstating the case.

No we aren't accidentally using a word for which one of the definitions seems to fit perfectly with what we have been seeing. Maybe its jus cuz we are not religous, but we the word fits in the case that mollie is like a celeb here receiving love n respect from every1 for strictly meta/oog reasons. Seems like too much, to the point where it can blind her buddies at times.

Seriously, we havn't played many games, but still never seen anyone on this site so blindly followed out the gate like this.

[Bookitty]

I'm going to separate this to make it clearer.

I REALLY like Mollie in general. She's funny, she's caring and she goes out of her way to make games fun for people. This makes me want to make the game fun for her. This hasn't got a thing to do with her alignment. Town or scum, this is going to be true.

In this game, she hit a lot of notes that I associate with Mollie-town. I believed she was town. I'm STILL not sure I'm not right, but I don't think the game can proceed without finding out.

You're conflating these two things as if they are the same thing. At least for me, they are not.

[Frogging Mollie]

Ika you said you were going to figure out Mollie day 2. Did you figure anything out? Or is that still future.

i have my thoguhts. but i want one thing first:

what you think of the nk?

when mollie gets on she will be deciding her fate to me. cus at this point ive reach bitter end with this game

plz tell me you stop being this dumb by the time I have fully caught up in the game.

[elusive]

Vote this slot out so we don't have any more AtE BS ruining the game for everyone else.

VOTE: Frogging Mollie

This needs to end.

[elusive]

Yukari you tried to get Mollie and couldn't? Is this the summation of why you think she's bulletproof?

[elusive]

Metal Sonic (7) - ika, Hydrangea, Bookitty, dragonspawn, Frogging Mollie, Bellaphant, Yukari [LYNCH]

How many scum are on this wagon? Let's play that game.

[elusive]

I mean MS did a replace out gambit and then took it back, so did Mollie. Why fake replace outs? Either replace out or you're as guilty as MS and deserve a speed lynch.

Also, MS sorry for being a bit harsh although you have a good friend in pie and I like her and hope to play with again.

Bookitty's vote on Froggy slot is bizarre. If that slot had even a remote possibility of being town then her vote doesn't make sense. From the hard on of yesterday to today is a 360 that leaves a bad taste.

[Frogging Mollie]

Hmm, we have to re-read as well, but todays lynch should be obvious. We tried to vig mollie but didn't work for some reason. Mollie is obvscum. Should have lynched her D1, seen her flip scum, then targetted boo. But it looked like mollie had too much support making d1 lynch on mollie near impossible which made us impatient.

Please do not let our d1 fears of mollie somehow worming her way out of death come true. Vote for mollie! Even if for some reason you don't believe our claim due to the lack of vig we predicted could happen, vote her anyways, and if she were to flip town then feel free to lynch us d3, we would even self vote to make it easy. But that won't happen because mollie is scum and we would bet our life on it. After she gets lynched and flips scum, we will be confirmed town and can go from there. Pls n ty.

Vote: Frogging Mollie

oh good grief you did not try to nk us otherwise we wld be dead unless either a) we were protected or b) you were blocked. it is obvs you are not the vig wi your whole, "Icasort metal d2!" cos vigging some1 is not sorting them. I pointed this out yesterday and you really cldn't explain it cos it can't be explained. you were rolefishing for the cop or vig that was pretty obvs from the POV of your posts.

anyhoo wni is not my nk I wld, I don't usually make fear kills I either special hunt or nk for love or lulz especially going into d2 with a bunch of suspicion on me.

I wld have probs have opted for elusive cos I cld troll the shit out of her and she wldn't be able to say a thing and it wld have pissed her and been incredibly funny. I know a lot of the players in this game don't me but here is an example of my personality:

last night we play a f2f upick where we cld pick our own flavour and be whatever we wanted. there were some good 1s like a pizza box or a banana or whatever but I picked kim kardashian's pap smear cos I was trying to tell I was trying to tell him that i cldn't text him cos I didn't have my phone so i was going to have to write it down and throw it at him but he was ignoring me so I announced that I have AIDS and reck was like, "why are you telling me this...in front of pple?" and brock was like "COS YOU WERE IGNORING HER" so I chose a pap smear cos reck is gay and hates vaginas and pics of vaginas and the thought of what comes out of vaginas which vag juice that cld end up on a pap smear. the role he designed for me was a town tracker:

invasive procedures: you can perform a super invasive papsmear on some1 at night and you will find out where they have been. I mean, you're up close and personal how cld you NOT!?

reck is so OCD he printed our roles out for us lol.

it was a great game for town cos singer scumread quadzypants, prozack got an early townread on me and made me the sole voter so only my voted counted cos he knows i am NOT retarded I spotted scumbro, lynched quadzypants d1 cos I townread singer and after he kept shaking his butt in front of my face (scumdance) made 3 or 4 pple promise to lynch bro, was nked n1 bro was lynched d2 and hammered by cdb

who is the worst traitor ever

and town. I am in a great mood cos last night was a lot of fun and froggy and I synched up so we are good. not even our mislynch can spoil my mood.

ika, give me a chance to fully catch up but also know that I am going to be busy with commune shit like right now we are trying to coordinate tonight and figure out sleeping arrangements for the out of towners. I have only been mislynched 3 times outside of newbies in like over 200 games but I am okay with it and so is froggy, we will just look for another game.

sooooo continuing catching up. also froggy will be out of town starting monday but we will be texting each other and he might have a chance to pop in I dunno. and like I said I will busy all week with commune stuff.

[Frogging Mollie]

its occam razor dragon:

presuming this is true: yukari vigs mollie
this means that mollie is 1-shot BP (and thats the scum role if you read opening)
or
yukari got rb

or yukari is lying like doesn't that seem like the more plausible scenario considering he is still alive? you can't invoke occam's razor w/o actually using occam's razor hth

[Frogging Mollie]

if anyone got fruit they should announce

prozack handed me a banana last night in a greater idea mafia game!

but I got nothing in this 1

[Frogging Mollie]

That MS wagon was complete garbage.

I may believe Yukari depending on [redacted]. Standby.

it was a good lynch cos at the very least we have info and I am okay with getting rid of noise on d1 and he was noise. I had doubts with the claim cos IT DID EXPLAIN IKA/WNI/METAL interactions that I was picking up on this is why if you are a neighbour the optimal is to out immediately so you don't screw over town with a bunch of false relational tells I believe that I have said this already.

which reminds, ika I think it is kinda shitty to say "no we are lynching metal" when I was having doubts about the lynch cos the explained a lot about what I was picking up and then hold me to some weird whatever paranoid shit you have going on in your head. what metal SHLD have done was stfu and stop baiting me cos I will scumread him every time for it and wni

SHLD HAVE NOT IGNORED MY REACH OUT.

[Frogging Mollie]

Are people typically notified if they're blocked? Would they get a message like 'your action failed' or 'you were blocked!'?

pple do not get blocked messages on this site.

[Frogging Mollie]

And by worship, we don't mean ppl think she is a divine creator diety, more like:
Verb
to love or honor (someone or something) very much or too much
to regard with great or extravagant respect, honor, or devotion <a celebrity worshipped by her fans>

this is highly disrespectful to me and to the other players.

what you seem to not understand is that I understand where you have been cos I have been there but you have not been where I have cos you don't have the experience. this does not make me "superior" like you and elusive keep triying to insinuate that is what am doing but it DOES give me the potential more skills than you have simply cos I have had more time to develope them as a few other players in this game have. if you are town STOP THIS RIGHT NOW. it makes you come across as insecure and is more likely to push you into the conf bias zone.

I have my doubts about your claim, and have pointed this out which you can't seem to adequately address. or we cld always talk about your shitty hammer it is kind of weird how no1 has brought that up yet. when you voted it seemed like you were not convinced that metal was scum but voted him anyways despite you having another way to "sort him" that I can't figure out how it wld "sort him" based on you being vig where he was somehow left alive. <------ this is why I thought you were softclaiming cop and I am not the only 1 who picked up on the investigative nature of your softclaim.

[Frogging Mollie]

grib, why did you kill pie?

pedit: i was talking to WNI in our neghborhood or were you not reading?

also dont even start with that molliewoship shit. thats not how it is and the fact you even insiuate that its somethign like that is insuting to the max to me

"Mollie can do no wrong, i refuse to lynch mollie d1 regardless of alignment." We keep getting that vibe over n over.. call it what you want Idk.

Its something called freindship. Also when mollie and i are both twon and we can sync up we destroy.

You dont seem to understand the relations we share. And truthfull i never expect you to either. I just want to to understand its not worshiping.

I have already made it clear day 1 that if MS flips town, i would not stop the mollie lynch on day 2. im jsut sick of your misreping it as worship.

pedit: i woudl rename if freindship and you ahev it right. i do have high respect for her but i would not put it as worship.

Sure friendship. We can see that being the case, and maybe you do work well together as all town, we wouldn't know firsthand and rarely dig through any meta. Just seems like that may be getting in the way of seeing mollie as scum when she is scum. Unless she ducks up bad you would likely believe her over someone you've never played with before. We get that.. But we are the vig, we shot at her, and she survived. Most of her D1 play was nothing but pushing for ms and yukari without real weight to the cases. Trying to seem like she is doing more than she is. Then with the wni and ms flips, iso's including the mod iso for votecount reading, scum mollie syncs up well with the scum reads we listed. We can't articulate everything atm that has gone thru our minds to get to our scum read on mollie so will call it strong gut feeling / instinct combined with everything else screams mollie scum at us.
Even if you have some doubt due to friendship bias, can everyone pls just agree mollie gets lynched today and if we are somehow wrong then we die D3?

if you are town then you are lining up 3 mislynches.

^ this is why I think your thinking is so fucked up.

personally I am going to look at who is on staying on the edges cos I am pretty sure there will be scum there. scum love 1v1s but scum are often uncertain on how to handle them during the aftermath so tend to hold back a bit to see where town herd mentality will go.

if you want to do something constructive how about you state the reasons WHY you think we are scum, make them short, concise and a bullet list wld be fantastic.

why do I feel like I am in rome.

[Frogging Mollie]

I am sorry I haven't checked in earlier; I've been pretty busy.

I'm going to go on record as saying I <3 Mollie a lot and I have respect for her scumhunting abilities. Dismissing that as "worship", especially when you've said you don't bother with meta much, looks like shallow discrediting to me, Yukari. I don't like it. I'm also not a fan of the lining up lynches thing you have going on right now.

I had really thought that MS would flip scum. The fact that Mollie hasn't weighed in yet is bothering me a lot.

VOTE: Frogging Mollie

@Ika: What do you think Mollie could say at this point? Either she's town who staked everything on a bad read on MS or she's scum. I don't know which, but I will say that this game has tied together people's alignments (MS-Mollie, Yukari-Mollie, even me and you and Mollie) more than any game I've seen lately. I don't know what Mollie could say, which is maybe why she hasn't said anything.

the day was open less than 24 hours and you are going here?

you are breaking my heart boo

cos we have a LOT to say, we spent a good hour? before playing true american which has to do with standing on cardboard boxes while having something that vaguely resembles turrets syndrome by shouting "jfk! fdr!" and then we drink. plz don't ask the details cos I am not even sure I understand them.

[Frogging Mollie]

@Yukari: I believe you're exaggerating the degree to which people like and respect Mollie in the context of the game. I don't buy that you're using charged words accidentally; I think you're trying to discredit by overstating the case.

thorella face

cos if he is "discrediting by overstating the case" then this sort of implies you know we will flip town yeah? when you are voting us?

cog/dis spotted

yukari/boo not scum together.

[ika]

@Yukari: I believe you're exaggerating the degree to which people like and respect Mollie in the context of the game. I don't buy that you're using charged words accidentally; I think you're trying to discredit by overstating the case.

No we aren't accidentally using a word for which one of the definitions seems to fit perfectly with what we have been seeing. Maybe its jus cuz we are not religous, but we the word fits in the case that mollie is like a celeb here receiving love n respect from every1 for strictly meta/oog reasons. Seems like too much, to the point where it can blind her buddies at times.

Seriously, we havn't played many games, but still never seen anyone on this site so blindly followed out the gate like this.

Heres my take on it yukari:

i see it as not as that verb and more as the deitity definition, if you can not respect the fact i/we would rather hear freindship and not worship (cus really thats really irritating and annyoing) then stop mentioning it

[ika]

its occam razor dragon:

presuming this is true: yukari vigs mollie
this means that mollie is 1-shot BP (and thats the scum role if you read opening)
or
yukari got rb

or yukari is lying like doesn't that seem like the more plausible scenario considering he is still alive? you can't invoke occam's razor w/o actually using occam's razor hth

easy mollie. im taking what you taught me from HU2 and what i have learned.

[Frogging Mollie]

I mean MS did a replace out gambit and then took it back,

so did Mollie

. Why fake replace outs? Either replace out or you're as guilty as MS and deserve a speed lynch.

Also, MS sorry for being a bit harsh although you have a good friend in pie and I like her and hope to play with again.

Bookitty's vote on Froggy slot is bizarre. If that slot had even a remote possibility of being town then her vote doesn't make sense. From the hard on of yesterday to today is a 360 that leaves a bad taste.

I said I was thinking about replacing out but it was up to froggy.

metal bolded, backed out and implied there some sort of intervention.

^ these are 2 different animals.

cos while you are running around saying that I am somehow ruining the game? (which I find incredibly funny given your aTe in drawn on arrival and you wonder why no1 takes you srsly) you will probs actually be the 1 to cos town to lose.

I wanted a 9/10 town game win ratio cos I am sick to death of pple running around saying that scum win more games when that doesn't haven't to be the case. but I can be good with 8/10 that is still pretty high.

what town lacked on d1 was town cohesion plain and simple which is something I try to push for but the glue cld not be found. I am still townreading ika, yukari might be morphing into a town read but I am unsure cos vig tells/sk tells ugh. he doesn't seem like grpscum.

we need more sorting to do, not sure if we will be given time.

[elusive]

Yukari has said nothing disrespectful at all. Nothing.

Ika and Bookitty had a Mollie hard on for day one allowing her to spin complete bullshit and either sheeping her or using her to mask their own BS. Mollie has HUBRIS issues that aren't uncommon on this site but if you point out her condescension to other players she has a fit.

Sorry, I did read the ETL game, each post and Mollie led town mislynches. As town leader she was a failure. Scum didn't win because of epic play they won because Mollie helped them with her HUBRIS.

What's funny, for people who actually take an interest in studying psychology, is that Mollie attempts to paint people who don't worship at her altar of lower case etc as inferior. She brings up the word herself and attaches it to those who don't obey. That's not how psychology works, try taking a class or doing the next best thing which is to read a book.

I want Mollie out of the game for these reasons:

1. Brought OOG issues with Metal Sonic (in particular a game where he was scum) and used it as the basis to tunnel him for pages on pages and got him lynched.
2. Spent all of day one, about 120 posts (discounting Froggy because he is new and his playstyle is palatable whether town or scum in this case) trashing Metal Sonic and FOSing WNI for defending him and also FOSed me and Grib for not voting as she wanted.
3. Engages in hubris, self-aggrandizing BS, poorly constructed and unsound potshots at players who call her scum (referring to me and Yukari as "inferior" for not being part of the mollie cult - neither of us think or believe we are inferior - she brings it up because its how she feels), and AtE.
4. At best is scum and town will be better off without all of the above and at worst is town and town definitely will be better off if we don't have a repeat of the ETL game I reviewed.
5. The belief that the cult will save her from being lynched even as scum because she's "entertaining." One I beg to disagree, this whole 1 vs. 1 thing with MS was disgusting. 2. Every post is full of a mixture of blah blah blah BS.

Bookitty is also certainly scum. ZZX is a question mark. Town needs to hear more from Hydrangea and Bellaphant.

I don't think all scum would go on the MS wagon but considering all the blah blah blah, its possibly a very easy place to hide.

Yukari if you can vig Bookitty night two that would be amazing. Also totally agree with what you said and its not rude, its simple observation and since you're new and experiencing this kind of play for the first time I'm glad to agree with you.