↑ Yukari wrote:@Mollie Could you please answer the true or false question?
I am assuming you mean this 1?
↑ Yukari wrote:@Mollie, true or false? If we vig someone, and they die, their alignment is revealed.
yes
look yukari. I am going to try to level with you. I get why you are frustrated, trust me, when I first started playing on this site I cld get nowhere whenever I went after thorella which I did on a frequent basis. omg I used to get so pissed. then I finally started listening to majiffy just so i cld get some peace in games and started leaving thorella alone give scum the chance to deal with him first cos they will. and by doing this it gave me the opportunity to learn from him with some of the things that I had been with in games. so I get where you are coming from its just that i really want to win this game and I am trying to work things out.
you pull at the heart strings but froggy is right, you said that cld sort metal d2 and that just does not support a vig claim. I am asking to step back so that in case we do get lynched you are not sitting in a corner by yourself rocking back forth cos you think you are terribad at mafia during the n2 phase. step back just for a bit and look at the game from the position that we are town and tell me what you see. just try it as a thought experiment.
I generally go by town role >>> town motivation >>> town posts. look at our posts and ask yourself the questions of: what motivation do we have in our posts? what is our endgame plan here? the reason why I am stepping back from the idea of scum!you is that if you were scum a 1 for 1 trade for strong town vs. you being autolynched with our flip is cos that is a high risk/moderate reward cos I believe there are other strong town in this game. and as metal pointed out I am thinking that scum don't have daychat
so you wldn't know if we were strong town or not unless you thought we had significant sway over the game
which you seem to think so but you are doing it more from a position of "why is this person not lynchable when other pple are" and the emotion behind it just reads as very genuine and I guess I wld like to believe that you wldn't be this butthurt about it if you were scum cos you cld always just nk us.
we are trying to step back for a minute and I am asking you to do the same.
this is where I am at now:
grib - is a strong townread cos it seems he is trying to work things out and he was wondering about zzthing right around the same time I was. town moves in herds and i tend to gravitate towards to players who are thinking what I am thinking at the same time.
boo - I feel like her defense and waffling on metal seems to come from town cos it is pretty detailed and it shows she was trying to work him out. I know other pple might not like it but I like her waffling, how she goes about it seems to come more from a "trying to work things out but not wanting to be wrong about it" perspective which to me points more to town. I have a soft spot for boo, she is 1 of my favourite players and I feel like our dynamic is more femal positive rather than female competitive. if she is scum she is doing some of the best waffling that I have seen done cos it comes across as very transparent and genuine. ugh.
ika - I am having paranoid thoughts about ika cos he simply isn't here when he shld be, especially since tere has replaced in. froggy has him as strong town and I was but I am not feeling the presence of him in this game or him trying to help me build some type of town cohesion in case we get lynched. like d2 is when I feel like we need to coalesce a bit and I am wondering where the hell is he. I liked his freakout moment at the opening of the day, I had planned on reaching out to pie hardcore to see if there was any chemistry there and if we cld somehow get past the blocks we seem to have with communicating. the other thing about ika that froggy pointed out is that he wld be moving himself front center by nking the other neighbour which wld not be a good optimal move unless wni was showing signs of suspicion in the hood which we have no access to. I am going to ride his ass until he gets back into the game tho but I am not exactly the most patient of pple but I will try to be patient with ika. I feel like we shld be working together more strongly and we aren't. I feel like he is leaving me hanging.
yukari - /kills self. I don't know what to do with him, he looks like pure newb who got screwed. froggy still thinks he is scum and I get why, but the breakdown just looks really genuine. I am a sucker for aTe when I am not being baited which is why I was struggling with metal towards the end of d1 but wound up voting him anyways.
plum - I really need to hear from plum right now or I am going to knock over the candles and set her on fire which will make me incredibly sad if she is town! if she is town I feel like we at least have a decent chance at winning. if she is scum then oh shit there goes my win rate.
hydraflower - I am struggling with this read too, but she sort of reminds me of honeybee in drawn on arrival?
boo what do you think?
tere - if elusive was scum then holy shit. that is some third level bs and I am just not willing to go there at this time.
zzthing - I think is abandoning me to die which is the best case that I have ever come up with in my mafia career.
bella - I dunno, andy's replace out is weird.
dragon - same but I dunno, singer might have found herself in a compromised position? so eh.
those are mostly my thoughts with a huge chunk of input from froggy. I will look at vca later but I am not that good at it but I will try.
