Inorganic Chemistry [GAME OVER, SCUM WIN]

[Ankamius]

I'm not really sure what to make of flubber. I get the sense that his playstyle is kind of that way regardless, but I'm bleh on his votes overall right now. Weak scumread here.

Metal Sonic is completely capable as scum; don't be fooled.

I don't like #495 because it looks like she's setting up for any possibility of pushing ika in the future, yet also setting up to keep it in the backseat just in case it becomes safe to push later, but also dropping it completely if it looks like it would be safer to. I really hate this since I'm getting a similar type of feel from her response to my push on her; her responses feel manipulative and trying to forcefit her theory in order to discredit my responses. I've pushed against Titus twice in recent memory and she was willing to immediately back up her suspicion in one case (mutual scumread case) and attempting to push me away from pushing a flawed case (townread vs scumread case). She was town in both games.

Here, I gave her an opportunity to show her work and she literally just reworded the exact same thing. She did include a supporting point, but it was to put a scumread on the one thing she stated wasn't me following consensus. The rest was just trying to forcefit her theory and discrediting my responses.

[Shakira Confirmed]

Will (hopefully) be here in full later tonight.

[Tere]

Why are you guys discussing milk and tequila still, that's just gross.

Present for Anti: http://bobbiesbakingblog.com/blog/2011/ ... es-recipe/ - although the mandarin last night was a fancy schmantzy Valentine's gift from Fortnum and Mason. Yummy!

Actual game related content: I am getting decent townvibes from Jaqen based on that.

@ Metal Sonic re 474 - can you run me through where your head is at with Ank now, because when reading through that mega wall it kinda seemed like you were thinking him scum initially but then you agreed with ika on his town read of Ank? This is not computing for me....

The other think that bothered me Ank in Sonic's iso was this thing. It feels odd to me. Tabletting, bed now xx

[Tere]

Still waiting for jaq to tell me why would he ask for vanilla games esp. it gave me big scumvibes tbh

Why? Simple vanilla games are the best to read meta from imo?

[Tere]

I mean we can get into extended wankery discussion about meta = suckage but if you want to try and get a handle on someone from reading through other games then it's not stupid, right?

Shutting up and sleeping now xx

[ZZZX]

Still waiting for jaq to tell me why would he ask for vanilla games esp. it gave me big scumvibes tbh

Why? Simple vanilla games are the best to read meta from imo?

They are? If you thinkso..

[Tere]

I do think so. I meta dive quickly and I don't wanna be waylaid by setup bullshit.

Why is this weird?

[Ankamius]

i was referring to what is that 3 eyed purple photo frame that you have in all your avatars. and why do you always have that photo frame

here

And it seemed like a good idea at the time. I haven't cared about avatars beyond it since.

[Jaqen Hghar]

Still waiting for jaq to tell me why would he ask for vanilla games esp. it gave me big scumvibes tbh

A man is still waiting for what he requested- 3 vanilla games. Not one game where it is being known before hand that all are vanilla. That would hardly be a representation of what a man is looking for.

[Antihero]

Silver Chemistry

Silver metal dissolves readily in nitric acid (HNO₃) to produce silver nitrate (AgNO₃), a transparent crystalline solid that is photosensitive and readily soluble in water. Silver nitrate is used as the starting point for the synthesis of many other silver compounds, as an antiseptic, and as a yellow stain for glass in stained glass. Silver metal does not react with sulfuric acid, which is used in jewelry-making to clean and remove copper oxide firescale from silver articles after silver soldering or annealing. Silver reacts readily with sulfur or hydrogen sulfide H₂S to produce silver sulfide, a dark-colored compound familiar as the tarnish on silver coins and other objects. Silver sulfide Ag₂S also forms silver whiskers when silver electrical contacts are used in an atmosphere rich in hydrogen sulfide.

4 Ag + O₂ + 2 H₂S → 2 Ag₂S + 2 H₂O

Silver chloride (AgCl) is precipitated from solutions of silver nitrate in the presence of chloride ions, and the other silver halides used in the manufacture of photographic emulsions are made in the same way, using bromide or iodide salts. Silver chloride is used in glass electrodes for pH testing and potentiometric measurement, and as a transparent cement for glass. Silver iodide has been used in attempts to seed clouds to produce rain. Silver halides are highly insoluble in aqueous solutions and are used in gravimetric analytical methods.

Silver oxide (Ag₂O), produced when silver nitrate solutions are treated with a base, is used as a positive electrode (anode) in watch batteries. Silver carbonate (Ag₂CO₃) is precipitated when silver nitrate is treated with sodium carbonate (Na₂CO₃).

2 AgNO₃ + 2 OH⁻ → Ag₂O + H₂O + 2 NO₃⁻
2 AgNO₃ + Na₂CO₃ → Ag₂CO₃ + 2 NaNO₃
Silver fulminate (AgONC), a powerful, touch-sensitive explosive used in percussion caps, is made by reaction of silver metal with nitric acid in the presence of ethanol (C₂H₅OH). Other dangerously explosive silver compounds are silver azide (AgN₃), formed by reaction of silver nitrate with sodium azide (NaN₃), and silver acetylide, formed when silver reacts with acetylene gas.

Latent images formed in silver halide crystals are developed by treatment with alkaline solutions of reducing agents such as hydroquinone, metol (4-(methylamino)phenol sulfate) or ascorbate, which reduce the exposed halide to silver metal. Alkaline solutions of silver nitrate can be reduced to silver metal by reducing sugars such as glucose, and this reaction is used to silver glass mirrors and the interior of glass Christmas ornaments. Silver halides are soluble in solutions of sodium thiosulfate (Na₂S₂O₃) which is used as a photographic fixer, to remove excess silver halide from photographic emulsions after image development.

Silver metal is attacked by strong oxidizers such as potassium permanganate (KMnO₄) and potassium dichromate (K₂Cr₂O₇), and in the presence of potassium bromide (KBr); these compounds are used in photography to bleach silver images, converting them to silver halides that can either be fixed with thiosulfate or redeveloped to intensify the original image. Silver forms cyanide complexes (silver cyanide) that are soluble in water in the presence of an excess of cyanide ions. Silver cyanide solutions are used in electroplating of silver.

Although silver normally has oxidation state +1 in compounds, other oxidation states are known, such as +3 in AgF₃, produced by the reaction of elemental silver or silver fluoride with krypton difluoride.

Silver artifacts primarily under go three forms of deterioration. Silver sulfide tarnish is the most common form of silver degradation. Fresh silver chloride is pale yellow colored, becoming purplish on exposure to light and projects slightly from the surface of the artifact or coin. The precipitation of copper in ancient silver can be used to date artifacts

Vote Count 1.5

Bins - 2 (Wickedestjr, Jaqen Hghar)
Cerberus v666 - 3 (ZZZX, Sonic Boom, Lying Cat)
Flubbernugget - 1 (Tere)
Mac - 1 (Flubbernugget)
Shakira Confirmed - 3 (Flames682, vezokpiraka, Mac)
Sonic Boom - 3 (mastin2, Ankamius, Shakira Confirmed)
Wickedestjr - 1 (hiplop)

Not Voting: Bins, Cerberus v666, ika

9 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2015-06-17 23:00:25)

[Bins]

why are there two avatarless people now nnooo

can someone explain cerb!!

[Bins]

i think after MS' posting im happier with sonic boom

[ika]

i think after MS' posting im happier with sonic boom

elaborate?

(i also just got home ppep

[Sonic Boom]

@Tere, I think for purposes of this game, reading VT meta would be better if you're the type to rely on meta. I tend to favor some personality tells, but not specific actions. This, more likely than not, is not a wacky setup given that the first Inorganic Chemistry was not a wacky setup and Anti tends to disfavor those.

@Ank, I literally reword the same thing whenever people ask me to show my work with nothing more. My work is shown unless I'm making a vague one liner or make a post indicating the explanation is coming later. If you want to probe more about a particular point, I'd be glad to but to dismiss my response because I'm giving you exactly what you asked (to repeat myself) is backwards. My case is plenty backed up for day 1. No one is going to have ironclad proof on day 1 for the most part, hence why I hate day 1 and sub in a lot.

Also 495 is called working with your townreads but having a backbone. Deal with it. You can see the same persona in XMen only then people wouldn't actually let me have my scumread despite Venmar not doing anything. If ika actually does something townish, you'll hear about it. If you're going to make a meta case on me, you'll actually have to put more bullshit on that because there are people a) better at that meta garbage than you and b) better bullshitters than you. I'm town, so any metadive should show 1) that I'm town 2) that it's inconclusive 3) Meta sucks or 4) the author is scum. So you actually care to do your meta homework? If it's important to you, you can't hide behind 3 (even though it is the truth). I dare you to make a meta case or stop with vague discredits.

@ZZX, I don't see why asking for Vanilla games is a problem. This setup is likely vanilla. You seem to be a little out of left field here. Metal's not liking it but I know I scumread you a lot and you're not saying things I know to be false. So I'd like you to elaborate more on some of your reads.

[Ankamius]

@Ank, I literally reword the same thing whenever people ask me to show my work with nothing more. My work is shown unless I'm making a vague one liner or make a post indicating the explanation is coming later.

uh

The other guy does it too is not a defense Ika.

Hillary Duff is town.
Ank is overly agreeable.

Vezok looks town.

~Titus

How exactly am I being overly agreeable?

Ank seems to agreeable. His opinions tend to follow consensus, which is why I have been leaving my thoughts a little naked. His reads literally follow major consensus for the most part, but for that awkward 180 on Vezok. Really, a townread because of an emoticon.

Your first sentence doesn't apply in this instance because you gave literally nothing in your original post, and the second one literally is just unpacking the vague statement into another vague statement. That's not shown work, and your only stated point had very little to nothing to do with it.

Here's the other half of the response; compare this to the quote chain above:

If you want to probe more about a particular point, I'd be glad to but to dismiss my response because I'm giving you exactly what you asked (to repeat myself) is backwards. My case is plenty backed up for day 1. No one is going to have ironclad proof on day 1 for the most part, hence why I hate day 1 and sub in a lot.

Nonsensical and not based in facts.

[Shakira Confirmed]

I'll be here tomorrow. Weekend is busy.
-Flum

[Sonic Boom]

I made a wall that showed the point you're overly agreeable. Your wall literally just claims my case sucks and omits it. If you're going to ignore what I say, you don't need a wall to do so.

Bonus points for calling me "nonsensical". It's true that day 1 lacks solid evidence, said by me in oh practically almost every game ever. It's only useful afterwards. So you going to actually read my games, or are you just going to spout the same popular bullshit. Titus is hard to understand, I'll throw that in.

[Ankamius]

You made a wallcase against me? The only walls I can find in your ISO is metal sonic's catchups

[Sonic Boom]

Our definition of wall must be different then.

Remember when I quoted all those posts and said well gee so and so said it first. Yeah, that was me.

If you're going to forget everything I write, perhaps it's best you just stop engaging me all together.

[ika]

ank, a man would like to ask you about someone, he wonders if you knwo who it is

pedit: thats a great idea. we should jsut all ignore you like i am. i have found out doing so make my life 10 times less stressful lsitening to noise and nonsense

[Ankamius]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p6907924

[Ankamius]

ika: I assume you want to talk about Jaqen Hghar?

[Sonic Boom]

@ika, Except you're not ignoring me. You're engaging in a campaign focused on proving me to be speaking non-sense and trying to convice others to ignore me. If you were actually ignoring me, you'd be saying nothing about me.

Hell, you STILL have said nothing but probing others reasoning and bitching about me.

[ika]

ika: I assume you want to talk about Jaqen Hghar?

the man nods in agreement that you understand him.

ok but seriosuly what your take on him? i have done that kind of persona before (3rd person speaking). do you think its more scum oriented or town oriented?

(for clarity, i did it both times as a 3rd party scum)

pedit: ive said plenty you jsut choose to filther it out cus it doent fit your shitty narrative. name one game titus where i have not bitched about you?

im probing cus im POEing. or did you miss my list of POE and some of my reads when asked by others?

[Sonic Boom]

I saw a list of PoE but FMPOV it might as well be a random name generator.