Mini 1677 - Ori and the Blind Forest Mafia - Forest Revived

[Frogging Mollie]

*if ika is town or not

I wasn't finished but it submitted anyways so whatevs.

I probably shld stop posting anyways cos I woke up in a great mood after getting some quality sleep but ika's post has simply set me off cos there is zero reason for him to be running around raging when no1 has said anything bad about him or to him.

[Hydrangea]

hydraflower - I am struggling with this read too, but she sort of reminds me of honeybee in drawn on arrival?

boo what do you think?

I don't understand the honeybee thing?

[Tere]

*if ika is town or not

I wasn't finished but it submitted anyways so whatevs.

I probably shld stop posting anyways cos I woke up in a great mood after getting some quality sleep but ika's post has simply set me off cos there is zero reason for him to be running around raging when no1 has said anything bad about him or to him.

I also reached out to you, you know. Timezones aren't always that great for this kind of stuff.

ika is as ika does.

Take the breather if you need to - you can always send in the Frogger, he seems cool and his drunkpost was very funny.

[Frogging Mollie]

Ika 10-4. I'm know you have respect for Mollie. Because she's awesome. I enjoy playing this game with you too, Ika, and hope to in the future as well. I'll let you be for a while. Just when you asked us if we're scum, I was like WTF? Of course not, that's all

[ZZZX]

I will go more into details for everything tonight. Just posted to check if everything is k here.

[Bookitty]

hydraflower - I am struggling with this read too, but she sort of reminds me of honeybee in drawn on arrival?

boo what do you think?

I don't understand the honeybee thing?

In Drawn on Arrival, Honey bee was sort of hanging back, popping in to

collect pollen from flowers

post a bit but without making a big noisy impact on the gamestate. If I remember correctly, she was a power role and I'm sure she was pro-town.

And maybe, Mollie. I don't have bad feels toward Hydrangea anyway.

[ika]

tere you here?

[ika]

mollie: post game we can talk about it.

[dragonspawn]

And if the neighborhood conversation wasn't a hoax then two dead neighbors are town and flipped, what does that make the remaining neighbor? Also town? That's fucking convenient after all that BS about how there has to be scum in a neighborhood.

Convenient, easy reads.

I read far enough to know that elusive requested replacement. But I wanted to address this.

The fact that the other two neighbors flipped town means absolutely nothing. I've seen countless neighborhoods where there has been no scum. I've also been in a neighborhood where there were three scum (multiball)

I also played a large game recently as a mason. We also had a neigh orthodox that was all town.

We should base our reads on ika on his game play, not the fact that he is in a hood with two dead townies.

[Tere]

Hi ika, I'm here! eating atm. Kinda doing other stuff too because reasons but checking this thread now and again too.

@dragon my read on ika is solely on game play. Neighbourhood is null.

Does remind me though - is there anything in the neighbourhood we may have missed that might be useful, ika? Care to have a read through?

[ika]

Hi ika, I'm here! eating atm. Kinda doing other stuff too because reasons but checking this thread now and again too.

@dragon my read on ika is solely on game play. Neighbourhood is null.

Does remind me though - is there anything in the neighbourhood we may have missed that might be useful, ika? Care to have a read through?

i already kinda gave pies last reads at start of day. it was night chat only. which implies scums only have night chat also.

basicly it went like this:

sonic spam
me telling him to not fuckig spam
pie going we are both prob town
lock for day phase
night phase
pie being pissed
me being pissed
us talking about our reads
us talking about some game stuff that has no impact
night ends

can we just lynch dragon now? he has not given his damn read list i asked that he said he would do

[Frogging Mollie]

I also reached out to you, you know. Timezones aren't always that great for this kind of stuff.

ika is as ika does.

Take the breather if you need to - you can always send in the Frogger, he seems cool and his drunkpost was very funny.

okay I see it now ty for the hug <3

do you think you can iso zzthing? cos that shld have been the first thing that you shld have done IMO before you decided to dismantle the wagon. I don't think anybody was going to quick hammer 2 lynches in a row but I wanted to apply pressure onto zzthing to get him to DO something. which he DID manage to cough up a readslist but it was sooper dismal combined with his iso. I thought after the nightless game he wld have gained some confidence and start really investing in games but I guess not.

I can see why you want to go after plum. my reticence stems largely cos both she and boo come from the ballroom dancing mafia time period and will stick out like sore thumbs with a backdrop of primarily conversational mafia players. so I have been trying to engage her in way that will help me sort her out. she was pretty strong town on d1 I felt like but eh, today I get the feeling she is holding back and waiting for where town herd will go. my personal struggle is cos I find myself liking her especially how she lays out her thought processes. so i find myself wanting to keep her around cos she is lovely to talk to.

can you also iso yukari, I looked up cho's threads that he has posted in cos I wanted to see where the familiarity was coming from and I think I have an idea. I was starting to lean town on yukari just cos I wld be surprised if scum was THIS butthurt over not getting their lynch choice lynched I mean holy cow but I don't like cho's "yeah I can see mollie's last 4 posts coming from scum! VOTE FROGMOLL" but eh, I can see town motivation in seeing who wld latch on if I squint my eyes real hard so I am defo split on that slot. froggy will be chanting to his death that he thinks yukari slot is scum. yukari saying that he cld sort out metal by vigging him makes zero sense I mean just lynch him already but he seemed to have an agenda as far as the priorities of the lynch order. I have only seen this kind of bs come from lynchers but I will hunt ank down IRL and murder him if he put a hood and a lyncher in a game w/o adequate town fire power so I am not going there.

cld you plz talk to grib? my fear is that and I might somehow some way wind up further in the game with him having inherited elusive's chip on her shoulder and that it will effect a town win. what irks me is that elusive has a history of doing this exact behaviour with other players on her homesite that he doesn't seem to be taking into consideration and I feel like it isn't very fair.

if either (or both which I don't want to even consider) boo or plum are scum it will depress me greatly cos those are the 2 that I like most in the game up to this point.

I feel better after updating the spreadsheet we had started, it is a touching stone for me to look at and figure things out. I was waiting to see if we made it through the night.

and I feel better after talking to you.

@ boo thanks for your input on hydraflower. I am not getting bad feels from her either but was wondering if I was being blindsighted.

[Grib]

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Talk to me about what? I'm not trying to come after you for your Day 1 thing, if that's what you're worried about.

[Frogging Mollie]

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Talk to me about what? I'm not trying to come after you for your Day 1 thing, if that's what you're worried about.

I am not worried about you coming after unless it is near endgame and we are being pretty dismal with lynches I am more concerned that there is no cohesion between us at all.

I just skimmed wni's iso cos I cld have sworn that pie said that he did not post in it during pregame but mebbe I made that up I did see however that wni was hardcore pushing boo so that looks like a likely reason that he might have been nked. he was also softly going after andy/bella slot.

I dunno. I don't do fear kills so don't really understand the mentality behind them but I know that a lot of pple do it on this site it is just depressing to think about boo being scum. we shld always be town together.

[Grib]

Well, you could try talking to me, instead of asking Tere to talk to me for you?

I don't have any particular attachment to anyone in this game, except ika I guess, but he's town so yay for me.

I wish dragon and Cho would do something interesting.

Bookitty's last couple of posts have been pretty fluffy.

[pirate mollie]

Well, you could try talking to me, instead of asking Tere to talk to me for you?

I don't have any particular attachment to anyone in this game, except ika I guess, but he's town so yay for me.

I wish dragon and Cho would do something interesting.

Bookitty's last couple of posts have been pretty fluffy.

okay, lets try to have a conversation.

I think ika is town too cos of his outburst. plus i don't think wni wld be his nk choice cos of the exposure it wld bring him as being the only survivor of the hood.

the last 2 sentences go back to what I was saying before, in that scum are more likely to sit back and watch where town goes on d2 after a hard 1v1 on d1 when it is between town. I don't think all wld do this but I defo think that it is possible that 2 wld.

do you see my dilemma with yukari/cho?

[Frogging Mollie]

Well, you could try talking to me, instead of asking Tere to talk to me for you?

I don't have any particular attachment to anyone in this game, except ika I guess, but he's town so yay for me.

I wish dragon and Cho would do something interesting.

Bookitty's last couple of posts have been pretty fluffy.

okay, lets try to have a conversation.

I think ika is town too cos of his outburst. plus i don't think wni wld be his nk choice cos of the exposure it wld bring him as being the only survivor of the hood.

the last 2 sentences go back to what I was saying before, in that scum are more likely to sit back and watch where town goes on d2 after a hard 1v1 on d1 when it is between town. I don't think all wld do this but I defo think that it is possible that 2 wld.

do you see my dilemma with yukari/cho?

sorry

[Grib]

Agreed on ika.

Of the scummy crowd, Yukari was really the only one to get involved in the main issues yesterDay, since MS was tunneling them. I don't know what to make of the weird claims ('we're the Vig but we can also clear up MS by D2') but that's kind of moot since they replaced out.

[Grib]

Vote Count 1.16

Bookitty (5)

- Grib, elusive, Metal Sonic, White Night Imagination, Yukari

[L-2]

Metal Sonic (4)

- singersigner, Frogging Mollie, ika, Bellaphant

Yukari (2)

- ZZZX, Hydrangra

White Night Imagination (1)

- Plum
Bellaphant -
elusive -
Frogging Mollie -
Grib -
Hydrangea -
ika -
Plum -
singersigner -
ZZZX -


Not Voting (1): Bookitty

On the other hand, they did make the Bookitty wagon lead over the MS one. I hopped off because the MS/mollie fight was really irritating, and then when ZZZX voted for Bookitty:

Now that you are back we can put our vote back where it belongs.

Vote: ZZZX

Please point out the lot of misrep you claim to have seen.

Which is. ??? Eh. It feels like a weak switch.

Actually elusive, Metal Sonic, White Night Imagination, and ZZZX all get +3 suspicion points just for being on that wagon. Despite our slight scum read of boo, our reason wasn't to lynch but maybe pressure into talking upon their return. Every1 else on wagon gets suspicion due to the lynch seeming way too easy.

elusiveslot is town, MS and WNI are townfirmed, and ZZZX is something or other. If Yukarislot flips scum, ZZZX is a slight townlean. Unless Yukari was going for the whole 'toss in a buddy's name among a list of townies' but wifom wifom wifom.

[Grib]

Oh, and they're doubtcasting the entire Bookitty wagon, despite it being 95% town-driven.

[dragonspawn]

Alright, need to re-read some more but I promised ika a read list.

Town

Ika - played countless games with ika. I like that he is aftivel scum hunting. It's a good sign that he is town imho.

Mollie - I generally have liked the arguments and their attempts to get information and I feel like yukari was totally trying to set them up.

Grib - I like the way he has been pressuring people. I've played enough games with him that i think i have a decent feel of him.

Zzzx - the way this wagon ramped up so quickly makes me think he is town. His buddies would have had to be seriously bussing him for this to be likely. It seems unlikely to me since we do have several viable options at this point.

Tere - I'm liking Tere much better than I liked elusive. Every game I play with elusive I tend to scum read her. I think it may just be her style. But tere has jumped in and hit the ground running. I like the effort she is putting in.

Null

Hydra - liking some of the posts. Not liking his involvement on the recent z zzz wagon. First game with him. If I had to make a choice slight town read.

Plum - first game with him. Didn't like his timing on the zzzx wagon. I have liked some of his analysis day 1. Still rather null.

Scum

Bookitty - I have no completed games with her. She spent a lot of day one just posting a lot of nothing imho. I'm leaning scum on her at the moment.

Bella - definitly didn't like bella pushing zzzx to L1 so quickly. I also had a ping day 1 when she sheeped my vote and reasoning for voting sonic day one. I had just entered the game and it looks like she was voting him earlier but backed off. It just didn't feel right.

Yukari/cho - I'm scum reading Yuri big time. I know cho just replaced into the slot. Felt like yukari was setting up for a vig. Fail before we even had a flip. It also didn't impress me when he tried to co bc nice us to lynch movie with the promise that he would kill ms overnight. Then he admits today he had no intention of doing that but would have killed boo. (Which might not be a bad nk for a vig). His gameplay feels scummy to me. I don't believe his claim in the slightest.

Sorry it's taken me so long to produce the list. I just haven't been on much the last couple of days and had a lot of posts to go through and reevaluate with.

Finally

VOTE: cho

I'm open to reconsideration of choice plays better than yukari did. But I think that my vote should be there until I see reason to change it.

[Grib]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Cho

I'm gonna chill here for a bit.

fake edit: well alright then.

[dragonspawn]

Hi ika, I'm here! eating atm. Kinda doing other stuff too because reasons but checking this thread now and again too.

@dragon my read on ika is solely on game play. Neighbourhood is null.

Does remind me though - is there anything in the neighbourhood we may have missed that might be useful, ika? Care to have a read through?

i already kinda gave pies last reads at start of day. it was night chat only. which implies scums only have night chat also.

basicly it went like this:

sonic spam
me telling him to not fuckig spam
pie going we are both prob town
lock for day phase
night phase
pie being pissed
me being pissed
us talking about our reads
us talking about some game stuff that has no impact
night ends

can we just lynch dragon now? he has not given his damn read list i asked that he said he would do

I've barely been on to do it. Real life has been busy. I'm barely keeping up with games and my read list was first priority when I had some time as you can see.

[dragonspawn]

Well, you could try talking to me, instead of asking Tere to talk to me for you?

I don't have any particular attachment to anyone in this game, except ika I guess, but he's town so yay for me.

I wish dragon and Cho would do something interesting.

Bookitty's last couple of posts have been pretty fluffy.

Can you define interesting?

[Grib]

Game-relevant and towny.