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Post Post #850 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:49 am

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hiplop wrote:

this post bothers me? I didn't understrand sonic wagon until here. sets me off a lot.

VOTE: sonic


what about it?

what a horrible vote
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Post Post #851 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:24 am

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Mac wrote:
you know genuine doesn't make them right, don't you? I mean, if you flip town we'll have your reads to work with but a townflip doesn't suddenly make you an absolutely scum finding genius.

your scumread on bins based on gorkington's replace out is SO bad - gorkington may have had personal issues, why does this make him scum? like seriously jaqen, you should never read someone based on a replace out.


A man is often catching out multiple scum D1 and you are knkwing this full well. And yet every game a man is playing with you, you go on to call his reads shit (in one way or another) and refuse to follow the lead because you yourself don't understand how to do that and are usually lynching some town instead. How about THIS GAME you reflect on a man's history of such and follow his lead instead of being a herpaderp do your own thing.

Also, if this one is town, why are you boiling down a man's reasons to scum read Bins to only Girkington's replace out when that clearly isn't the case?
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Post Post #852 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:54 am

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ika wrote:
Wickedestjr wrote:
ika wrote:flames and sonic boom

Flames?


yes, do you disagree on it (im getting tired so i dont recall your curent bloc you made offhand)

I don't disagree (he's a slight scum lean for me), I just wanted to know your reasoning. Why Flames?
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Post Post #853 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:09 am

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ika wrote:I love how lying cats wants us to use 10 days worth but never shows up to actualy do things then

fwiw jingle doesn't lurk as scum
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Post Post #854 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:11 am

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ika wrote:I love how lying cats wants us to use 10 days worth but never shows up to actualy do things then

Jaqen Hghar wrote:
Sonic Boom wrote:using 2 year old stale meta, I'm town


A man has yet to see a leopard changing its spots.

I probably glanced over the context but you would still need recent meta to confirm this
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Post Post #855 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:12 am

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Ill pull stuff out of mac's quote on a computer if I remember
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Post Post #856 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:13 am

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For now I don't see a lot of proactive content in it though
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Post Post #857 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:20 am

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sorry. large games make me anxious. ill try to post some after my appt.
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Post Post #858 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:30 am

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Flubbernugget wrote:
Wickedestjr wrote:
Vote: Flubbernugget


Literally every vote that he has cast has been opportunistic. I especially dislike the recent Cerb vote. The “Am I really doing this” and “no I’m not doing this” wrt his chat with Cerb seems really fake to me. And then he says that he’s voting Cerb for his belief that scum can’t fake logic.
He’s essentially voting Cerb for his opinion on mafia theory…
even though it’s not clear why Cerb would lie about theory in this case. I think Flubber just wanted to find his own reason for joining the (next) wagon, and just happened to choose a crappy one.

He is scum.


Just pointing out that tere made a similar conclusion and then read about three posts down

I read three posts down- see the bold.
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Post Post #859 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:04 am

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Ankamius wrote:Flum: I think I can agree with you there. I'm not a very big fan of Jaqen's scumreads.


3rded.

Jaqen's scumreads look bad.

and not just the reason that i'm on them.

it just looks too easy


Then lynch a man and prove his thoughts genuine so they can be sheeped.

Feels fake... Telling your own scum read to lynch you? Hmmm... trying to sound townish here?

Also not sure how you scum read both Sonic AND ZZZX. Your four scum reads are all leaning town for me, and I'm highly considering voting for you.
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Post Post #860 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:07 am

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I mainly want to touch base with Marq quickly about Sonic Boom. If I can get a handle on them, the rest of the slots will be easier I think.

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Post Post #861 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:11 am

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Wickedestjr wrote:
Flubbernugget wrote:
Wickedestjr wrote:
Vote: Flubbernugget


Literally every vote that he has cast has been opportunistic. I especially dislike the recent Cerb vote. The “Am I really doing this” and “no I’m not doing this” wrt his chat with Cerb seems really fake to me. And then he says that he’s voting Cerb for his belief that scum can’t fake logic.
He’s essentially voting Cerb for his opinion on mafia theory…
even though it’s not clear why Cerb would lie about theory in this case. I think Flubber just wanted to find his own reason for joining the (next) wagon, and just happened to choose a crappy one.

He is scum.


Just pointing out that tere made a similar conclusion and then read about three posts down

I read three posts down- see the bold.

No I'm voting him for his willingness to argue about theory
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Post Post #862 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:12 am

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Flubbernugget wrote:
oh and a defensive iso but willingness to go on the offense over theory is scummy
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Post Post #863 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:15 am

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I've made other posts implying cerb is scum after your accusation as well
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Post Post #864 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:22 am

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Check . I'm being scum read for hopping on large wagons in rvs. From there cerb argues this is scummy. Note that after I've discussed why this was scummy the conversation slowly goes back to theory posting.

You can turn any argument into a theory argument, which can help scum disguise fluffposting
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Post Post #865 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:42 am

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I may be mistaken, but I believe I'm the one who suggested leaving the conversation of theory and non game relevant discussion behind us. What do you mean by a defensive iso? Responding when people attack people, rather than attacking them myself? I'm pretty sure I also already expressed my belief that learning why people do what they're doing, or at the least the reason they're willing to share, is hugely valuable in later analyzing whether those reasons align with later play in light of future flips, though perhaps it wasn't in so many words. So, that said, you will be seeing a lot of me demanding reasons for actions taken, rather than sheeping things which don't make sense to me just becaise the one doing it is a town read.

Oh hey, this post is like a fluff theory post too, but I guess it's necessary because you don't seem to understand what I'm doing.

I will, btw, agree with you that theory posts amd setup spec posts are very very easy things for scum to utilize to HIPS. That doesn't change the fact that knowing players thoughts on theory helps you spot inconsistencies in their play going forward.
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Post Post #866 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:52 am

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Alsoz who did I attack because of theory? I engaged in conversation about it, but I don't think I attacked anyone because of it. You cohld argue my flame vote is purely a theory "attack", but that happened after you said I attacked over theory. Little confused by that actually but I kinda let your semantics slide, thanks for reminding me.
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Post Post #867 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:53 am

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Also look at how he responds to being scum read...

...excessively
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Post Post #868 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:18 am

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Space Groups


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The space groups in three dimensions are made from combinations of the 32 crystallographic point groups with the 14 Bravais lattices, each of the latter belonging to one of 7 lattice systems. This results in a space group being some combination of the translational symmetry of a unit cell including lattice centering, the point group symmetry operations of reflection, rotation and improper rotation (also called rotoinversion), and the screw axis and glide plane symmetry operations. The combination of all these symmetry operations results in a total of 230 different space groups describing all possible crystal symmetries.


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Cerberus v666 - 2 (Lying Cat, Flubbernugget)
Flubbernugget - 1 (Wickedestjr)
hiplop - 2 (Sonic Boom, vezokpiraka)
Sonic Boom - 6 (mastin2, Ankamius, Shakira Confirmed, Tere, Jaqen Hghar, hiplop)
vezokpiraka - 1 (ZZZX)

Not Voting: Bins, Cerberus v666, ika, Kari, Mac

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Post Post #869 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:30 am

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Not sure how I read Wicked. I'm trying to tie it to when he pushed me when I was scum.

zzz. Someone talk to me about something so I can feel integrated in after replacing in. Haven't really hit that point yet.
is this where I tell you to swipe right

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Post Post #870 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:51 am

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Flubbernugget wrote:Also look at how he responds to being scum read...

...excessively


I respond to everything excessively. Give me something else interesting to talk about and I'll be excessive about that instead.
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Post Post #871 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:57 am

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Bins wrote:Not sure how I read Wicked. I'm trying to tie it to when he pushed me when I was scum.

zzz. Someone talk to me about something so I can feel integrated in after replacing in. Haven't really hit that point yet.


Sonic Boom - 6 (mastin2, Ankamius, Shakira Confirmed, Tere, Jaqen Hghar, hiplop)

Thoughts on the above? i see two of my stronger town reads(shakira and jaqen) voting for my other strong town read. Ank is nulltown, hiplop nullscum, mastin null null.
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Post Post #872 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:58 am

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Wickedestjr wrote:
Jaqen Hghar wrote:
Sonic Boom wrote:
Ankamius wrote:Flum: I think I can agree with you there. I'm not a very big fan of Jaqen's scumreads.


3rded.

Jaqen's scumreads look bad.

and not just the reason that i'm on them.

it just looks too easy


Then lynch a man and prove his thoughts genuine so they can be sheeped.

Feels fake... Telling your own scum read to lynch you? Hmmm... trying to sound townish here?

Also not sure how you scum read both Sonic AND ZZZX. Your four scum reads are all leaning town for me, and I'm highly considering voting for you.


It may be what is needing for you to get off seeing wrongly before you are town reading scum all game.
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Post Post #873 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:03 am

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Bins wrote:zzz. Someone talk to me about something so I can feel integrated in after replacing in. Haven't really hit that point yet.

Any players you have any thoughts on?

Reads on me?

Reads on sonic?

thoughts about cerb?
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Post Post #874 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:13 am

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Cerberus v666 wrote:
Flubbernugget wrote:Also look at how he responds to being scum read...

...excessively


I respond to everything excessively. Give me something else interesting to talk about and I'll be excessive about that instead.


Why didn't you respond excessively to bins?
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