it’s fair to hold your trump card back; I’ve as much as said that i’m doing the same.
I remember a while back (in the wall about you, specifically), I speculated that Devour was a superpowered werewolf. Then Drixx speculated the same thing in a way that suggested he hadn’t read my wall so he independently came up with this himself. Oranje was complaining that this would be an alignment change if it was a were wolf that only activated after the other two werewolves died which was technically true but he was also suggesting that he couldn’t be SK because he was an “amnesiac” commuter and the part of his role that he “remembered” couldn’t be an alignment change (which even at the time I felt he was arguing at cross purposes with me because i was not suggesting that his alignment had changed, I was suggesting that he was lying about the amnesiac part of it.) Werewolf and leopard seem to be more closely connected than anything. Maybe he was an auxiliary member of their team or maybe he could have won with them but not with the other teams or something to balance out the fact that werewolves were only two and volcano was 3, and if that is the case then berlin would have been 3 too, so 3:3:2:1 but the 2:1 being kind of together but not together. like maybe he didn’t know their names and they didn’t know his but he could have known their existence.[1] I don’t know how plausible or likely that is but I just looked up Uncouth Mafia again and you had 3:3:3 there in a rock paper scissors configuration and so that’s on my mind at the moment. I’m not sure how likely that is though.
[1] in my first offsite game (i have two completed offsite games), the mechanic was 3 SKs who didn’t know who each other were and a 4th player who won with the town but could choose which of the SKs to let kill each night (by flavour name not by username). Ivy was wondering why I had that caveat in my original wall about him; that’s why.
And I agree about the kill flavours. you’re right. (except until bbmolla claimed they didn’t have a factional kill, incinerate sounded reasonable for volcano too) but if incinerate is Berlin then why are they nuking? is it because they’re Underground? so they nuke from orbit but they’re underground? in an underground bunker but then why isn’t it nuked from underground bunker. but this is the age of artificial satelites so they could have a remote control that lets them access their nukes without physically being in orbit themselves? or there could be another serial killer in a spaceship and Berlin has factional immunity to nuke from orbit by virtue of having an underground bunker?
*looks at the first post again*
Berlin had a roleblocker and a “paragon of crime” (narninian claimed this was killredirecting. it may have been. Oranje claimed he was telling the truth but Oranje also claimed that Volcano’s kill ability was called Scorch. Do you think it’s possible Oranje was making up the autopsy thing? we know he lied about some things and so it’s hard for me to tell.
Volcano had a Renovator (vonflare who didn’t seem to give a nontrolly answer about but they claimed it was a role cop?), a ??? which was probably a janitor, and a one shit barista (bbmolla the nightskipper) and bbmolla claimed they had factional bulletproof
Leopard had the commute thing
Werewolves had an “avatar of lycanthropy” which was probably something cool because narninian’s role was cool and his name was similar but who knows what it was, and a modified bulletproof.
if there is some obvious ability that is missing from Berlin I’m probably going to keep missing it. If you think bp is what’s missing, it could have been a factional thing or narninian’s ability could have worked like a limited bp (redirecting kills off of us his buddy, or just flat out redirecting them off of his team entirely). if you think commuting is what’s missing then the werewolves and volcanos also couldn’t commute? if you’re insisting it has to be berlin because they already had a role blocker (pika) and a jailkeeper would be redundant then that’s true and i won’t fault you for survivalism in LYLO because it’s LYLO and we all want to survive.
But whichever team or individual we’re looking for, if nuke is a delayed nightkill, and all signs point to that being true, then 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 10 are the days it happened on, so it was submitted on nights 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 9. if it’s a daykill after all then there’s the question of why it wasn’t submitted on day 1 and day 5 (night 4 was skipped). If it’s Brantz, we need an explanation for how it was submitted on night 7, which points to him having a teammate alive at that point (bbmolla but i ruled tropical volcano out in my analysis, or oranje, which seems crazy but I lost a game that my faction won because i was possessed by a demon on the night after 7p lylo and then I lost a 3 way coinflip[2].
That
, at least, I can be sure isn’t going to happen to anybody in this game, because not bastard, but this is the frame of reference i’m coming from here. 2 extremely strange bastard games one of which didn’t even have an informed majority + 3 games of matrix6 + elemental mafia + some browsing of completed games.)
[2] it shouldn’t have come down to a coinflip (though that was in fact my own best option), but math. and math based on a faulty assumption at that. That experience is part of why I asked you that paranoid question about Berlin, about whether I’ll be damned if I push Brantz this way, damned if I push him that way; that game had a lot of that sort of thing, some of it from town, some of it from scum.
