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Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:29 pm

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I misread the gamestate a lot this game, but I legitimately didn't think anyone else would be killed that night.
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Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:30 pm

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I couldn't believe no-one questioned Reg being alive on D5...I genuinely thought that was going to be our biggest problem.
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Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:31 pm

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eh, I didn't because all the kills were predictable enough. The only one that gave me any pause was Llamarble's NK.
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Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:33 pm

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Maybe.

I suppose Reg starting to lurk it out from D3 onwards could have been used as a reason for why he was alive.
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Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:33 pm

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I do feel like I'd have been able to give all of our games better attention if it weren't for the RL stuff I had going on.

(Which is just ending now. I'm waiting on one form to get signatures and make it's way to the dean's office and then I'm totally official.)
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Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:34 pm

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One of my thoughts when I saw I died was I'm distracted how am I dead?
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Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:36 pm

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Reg wanted you dead.

We killed you haha.

I think Reg orchestrated most of our kills actually.
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Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:36 pm

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Like, nobody has a single, solid reason for me being scum.

I gave you a whole list last time you asked.

BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I bet Anti wouldn't have been scum reading me...

And I bet Tammy would. Do you think Zach would have a hard time picking between you and me? I don't. You can focus all you want on the one nightkill where there was one obvious option but the other nightkills tell a very different story.


I kinda cracked up when I read this post because when I looked the game over the night after the anen lynch I was actually planning to vote CES the next day.

It's not so funny thinking about it now because misreading my intentions there was probably one of the contributers to the elk lynch.
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Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:38 pm

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Regarding Reg/BBT I did have a thought in my mind that reg flipping scum would implicate BBT because he vouched heavy for him playing to a town meta.

I'm guessing that had some to do with why I had to go once my town read of Reg started eroding.
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Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:39 pm

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I think it was more down to you just being universally town read.

We were OK leaving you alive while you and Anti were going at each other but once that stopped, you needed to be killed.
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Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:45 pm

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Especially considering that lead to the one scum lynch in the game. ^.^
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Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:46 pm

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Yeah, it didn't help that Anti nailed Anen straight away. It took all of his attention away from you and onto Anen.
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Post Post #2212 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:48 pm

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I choose to back him on that as well because following Reg and CES wasn't working.
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Post Post #2213 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:49 pm

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Yeah that was kind of weird.

Like, Reg/Llamarble/CES all just kind of said 'Well us 3 are town so we'll work this shit out' and I was like wtf...
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Post Post #2214 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:51 pm

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Well CES's trust in Reg is what led to his lynch, so that worked out pretty well for you guys.
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Post Post #2215 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:53 pm

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Oh yeah, I'm not arguing against that at all.

It was just the early 'town-bloc', so to speak, made no sense to me and I was surprised it was just allowed to happen.

Made it very easy for me to question Reg's read on CES and vice versa though (I think Reg openly admitted he couldn't find a valid reason for his town read on CES in the thread)
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Post Post #2216 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:57 pm

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I should actually have listened to Sotty more. She had a pretty hard scumread on Reg for a large part of the game.

I felt something was off with him, but didn't want to rattle that cage because I didn't think I could make any convincing narrative for him being scum.
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Post Post #2217 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:59 pm

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That day one townbloc had scum written all over it.
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Post Post #2218 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:02 pm

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Ank you actually had me coming out of the chair on lylo when you concluded Reg was the best lynch because I felt like it was a lot better lynch at that point than CES.

I much preferred Reg dying at that point due to the chance that CES was the scum designated mislynch for lylo.

Was sad when he got lynched instead... but in lylo it's really tempting and easy to stick with the existing wagons so yeah, just dem breaks.
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Post Post #2219 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:02 pm

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Zachrulez wrote:I should actually have listened to Sotty more. She had a pretty hard scumread on Reg for a large part of the game.

I felt something was off with him, but didn't want to rattle that cage because I didn't think I could make any convincing narrative for him being scum.



You could have talked to me about it. I wasn't entirely comfortable with Regfan, but I wanted him to be town.

You were pretty much the only person I was 100% sure on.
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Post Post #2220 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:05 pm

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Most of what she said about him didn't make the private topic, which was another reason I was reluctant to go into too much detail about what she was saying.

I kind of wanted him to be town too, and was realizing by day 3 that he probably wasn't, but by then you were dead and it was too late as I was dead the next day.
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Post Post #2221 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:08 pm

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Zachrulez wrote:Ank you actually had me coming out of the chair on lylo when you concluded Reg was the best lynch because I felt like it was a lot better lynch at that point than CES.

I much preferred Reg dying at that point due to the chance that CES was the scum designated mislynch for lylo.

Was sad when he got lynched instead... but in lylo it's really tempting and easy to stick with the existing wagons so yeah, just dem breaks.


Yeah, I would've been a hero if I did that. Now I just kinda look ridiculous for how awkward my play was all game.
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Post Post #2222 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:10 pm

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Ankamius wrote:
Zachrulez wrote:Ank you actually had me coming out of the chair on lylo when you concluded Reg was the best lynch because I felt like it was a lot better lynch at that point than CES.

I much preferred Reg dying at that point due to the chance that CES was the scum designated mislynch for lylo.

Was sad when he got lynched instead... but in lylo it's really tempting and easy to stick with the existing wagons so yeah, just dem breaks.


Yeah, I would've been a hero if I did that. Now I just kinda look ridiculous for how awkward my play was all game.


Well CES took the last lynch and you were in a position to decide the lynch as confirmed town. That's not nothing.
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Post Post #2223 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:23 pm

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Eh. I have a weird talent for being able to not be lynched as town, so that's not very far beyond par for the course. Generally it takes role fuckery to get me mislynched.
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Post Post #2224 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:35 pm

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Ankamius wrote:Eh. I have a weird talent for being able to not be lynched as town, so that's not very far beyond par for the course. Generally it takes role fuckery to get me mislynched.


Definitely in the right game then!
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