Inorganic Chemistry [GAME OVER, SCUM WIN]

[Tere]

Oh good lord Jaqen, do you never read setup info or something? Hang on, let me bring it forward for you.

[Tere]

THE SETUP

• There are
  two factions
  in this game. A
  town (13 players)
  and a
  mafia (4 players)
  .
  

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• Everyone's roles are inorganic or organometallic. All the
  town
  role compounds/elements contain metal whereas the
  mafia
  role compounds/elements do not.
  

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• There are three inventors in this game. They may or may not be all of the same alignment and there may or may not be other power roles in the setup.
  

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• Inventors can grant other players one-shot abilities. Inventors will use their action during the day and it will resolve at twilight, before the flip.
  

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• Inventors' targets will be informed of their abilities at the beginning of the night. Their ability is one shot and must be used that night. These abilities are also "free". That is, they can be used in addition to a power role the player may have. Should a player receive multiple abilities from inventors s/he may use all the abilities.
  

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• Days will be a minimum of 72 hours. Should a majority be reached in less time than that, the day will be locked and there will be a 24 hour delay between the locking of the thread and the flip.

Town Win Condition:

You when when all mafia-aligned players are eliminated.

Scum Win Condition:

You win when mafia make up at least 50% of the living population.

She is softclaiming an inventor role you dummy. They resolve in twilight so we can't prove anything toDay about it, but we should be able to probe this.

And yes, I am aware that she could be scum inventor. But lynching a softclaim PR Day 1 is dumb IMO.

[Jaqen Hghar]

A man reads. And a man is finding it completely unnecessary to claim DAY power. That's o er the top.

[Shakira Confirmed]

Uhhhh Jaqen?

[Shakira Confirmed]

Who's Jaqen an alt of? Is it supposed to be secret?

[Jaqen Hghar]

Lynching a soft claim when there were only 4 on her at the time and there was no reason to claim other than to deflect attention is brilliant.

[Tere]

it's pretty clear what Bins is softclaiming.

A man is agreeing with this. That one is claiming to have a vote; then this one is flying off the handle to make the claim more than it is and completely disregarding Bins saying she would use it on her scum read hiplop.

OK, dude, you need to take the confbias specs off because she said she was going to consider giving it to Shakira, then me, then hiplop in 1222

Shakira and I she gives a townread to in 882. She has hiplop as swingy in the same post but then rereads him. He's still nullish at 1019 (still reading me as town here too) and she decides he's town and the strongest read in the game so far at 1218. 1222 happens straight after.

She's saying she wants to use her action on her strongest town read, not her scum read.

And actually rereading Bins' ISO yet again, I want to give her the chance to prove it. She should probably not pick the person most likely to get lynched, though. That would be counterproductive.

[Tere]

ohhh you're waynegg? that makes sense.

vote: hiplop

i'm going my own way just now pending bins' response to you, but i do see your more recent points about her having some sound reasoning behind them.

For Shakira re: who Jaqen is an alt of (well, who Mac thinks Jaqen is an alt of). The convo is round about it I think.

[ika]

The man is being stupid and not realizign that bins is claiming to be an fucking inventor

[Tere]

Lynching a soft claim when there were only 4 on her at the time and there was no reason to claim other than to deflect attention is brilliant.

A man is also forgetting we are getting fairly close to day end now. Given that, I don't think it is that unreasonable.

A man said somewhere in his ISO that were it not for Gorkington he would have a more town read on bins. Can he go and look at her ISO again and think about it in that context, please?

[Tere]

Well, not a more town read as such. Ugh. Lemme go find the quote.

[Tere]

Jaqen: They're all easy. ZZZX is already on the back foot, Cerberus has enough of a playstyle clash to make it easy to just start tunneling back and forth with, Sonic Boom is already scumread by practically half the playerlist, and Bins had Gorkington in her slot.

ZZZX is being questioned by 2 players. Not exactly a back foot, though he should be given he is literally having three distinct metas and neither town meta is being followed here.

Cerberus is having some pressure, but not majority pressure. A man is just pointing out the scummotivation in killing off a lurker over one with reasons (which is a pretty fucking complex thing to pick up on on D1 where there's "no info")

Metal Sonic is saying one thing which is keying a man in on that one which is reminiscent of the last Xeno game we are sharing. That one needs only post a 7000+ character "reads" wall of emotion to make a man full on tunnel. However, those are squirming their way out of early suspicion and you and others are letting them. For no good reason a man is adding.

Bins is condemned by Gorkington.

A man would be possibly reading the slot differently if it were being just Bins.

Then again, perhaps not as that one's incessant whining about "tell me why Jaqen" even though a man is posting not once, but twice, his exact reasons for such dislike for the slot. If Gork hadn't happened, that whine is probably absent so, meh. But Gorkington is happening and is killing the slot that one's scummiest 'I don't have time for this game even though I'm posting almost constantly and have the highest post count at the time after hoops being jumped through so I could play' replacing out.

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So, no, none of a man's suspicions are being "easy". Fail again.

Ah, this is what I was thinking of and not as strong as I was remembering in stance. But I would still appreciate it if a man did a reread.

[Tere]

ohhh you're waynegg? that makes sense.

vote: hiplop

i'm going my own way just now pending bins' response to you, but i do see your more recent points about her having some sound reasoning behind them.

For Shakira re: who Jaqen is an alt of (well, who Mac thinks Jaqen is an alt of). The convo is round about it I think.

Jaq confirms this in 893 btw.

[hiplop]

Here's hiplop's last completed scum game on site (there's FitzOtter1 at about the same time as well but kuribo took over after he'd had 4 posts or something).

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=58587

When reading through hiplop's ISO there it seemed like he was doing the same not reading thing as he's been doing here. So I guess that's not a towntell for him.

that game sucked

[Tere]

And? It was in your ISO right off the bat so it was not game suckage. I got that something happened in endgame and you were pissed off about it, but the not reading shit was hsppening at the start.

But now you are here, want to do some work, like a nice old fashioned reads list or something? If you are a mislynch as you claim, you should leave a legacy, amirite?

[Tere]

Re ISOed Jaq and I have him as solid town. Don't necessarily want to sheep his reads (I am not partial to sheeping in general) but solid town.

[Jaqen Hghar]

Jaqen: They're all easy. ZZZX is already on the back foot, Cerberus has enough of a playstyle clash to make it easy to just start tunneling back and forth with, Sonic Boom is already scumread by practically half the playerlist, and Bins had Gorkington in her slot.

ZZZX is being questioned by 2 players. Not exactly a back foot, though he should be given he is literally having three distinct metas and neither town meta is being followed here.

Cerberus is having some pressure, but not majority pressure. A man is just pointing out the scummotivation in killing off a lurker over one with reasons (which is a pretty fucking complex thing to pick up on on D1 where there's "no info")

Metal Sonic is saying one thing which is keying a man in on that one which is reminiscent of the last Xeno game we are sharing. That one needs only post a 7000+ character "reads" wall of emotion to make a man full on tunnel. However, those are squirming their way out of early suspicion and you and others are letting them. For no good reason a man is adding.

Bins is condemned by Gorkington.

A man would be possibly reading the slot differently if it were being just Bins.

Then again, perhaps not as that one's incessant whining about "tell me why Jaqen" even though a man is posting not once, but twice, his exact reasons for such dislike for the slot. If Gork hadn't happened, that whine is probably absent so, meh. But Gorkington is happening and is killing the slot that one's scummiest 'I don't have time for this game even though I'm posting almost constantly and have the highest post count at the time after hoops being jumped through so I could play' replacing out.

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So, no, none of a man's suspicions are being "easy". Fail again.

Ah, this is what I was thinking of and not as strong as I was remembering in stance. But I would still appreciate it if a man did a reread.

And then more is happening...and Bins is scum on her own. How about taking your friend goggles off?

[Jaqen Hghar]

Re ISOed Jaq and I have him as solid town. Don't necessarily want to sheep his reads (I am not partial to sheeping in general) but solid town.

Then sheep a man's D1 history.

[Jaqen Hghar]

But, sure, let the scum use that action. A man is sure it is benefitting town to do so /sarcasm

[Tere]

Bins is not my friend, dude (well she might be perfectly nice but I don't know her from Eve). i have played with her twice, that's it. i am not asking you to look again because "friendship". I am asking you to look again because you placed some weight on Gork's ISO and replace out, misunderstood the 5 day Z thing as being Titus not Z, and seem to be fixated that she couldn't be inventor because she is targetting a scum read when actually she is looking for townreads to target.

I am not helping you with Bins today. If you don't want to do hiplop what other wagons do you propose? This day needs a lynch to start sorting IMO.

Pedit I don't sheep because history. We don't need two mastins in the game, stop it :/

[Tere]

I would happily lynch the fuck out of Kari but I doubt that is going to get traction in the timescale. Plus not convinced hiplop is not scum.

Ugh.

[Tere]

Thought at Jaq: are you aware of who Gorkington is an alt of (I know it is an alt but not whose. I think the Marquis head of Shakira might)?

Is that impacting on your play?

[hiplop]

And? It was in your ISO right off the bat so it was not game suckage. I got that something happened in endgame and you were pissed off about it, but the not reading shit was hsppening at the start.

But now you are here, want to do some work, like a nice old fashioned reads list or something? If you are a mislynch as you claim, you should leave a legacy, amirite?

that game was an outlier for me.

[Flubbernugget]

Bins is hiplop still your target? He's probably the lynch for today....

[Tere]

Bins is hiplop still your target? He's probably the lynch for today....

This, I don't care who you target, but not the counterwagon to you. Find another target.