We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[VysePresident]

I'd join with you if I weren't taking a break & I could endure the erotica

[Cerberus v666]

So how was mafia win condition worded to make the 1:1 a loss for mafia?

Apparently it said you win when no other factions remain alive(or something to that effect), and the last remaining player was both immune to their night kill, and because they were a traitor who didn't get recruited, they didn't even have a night kill to use.

[T-Bone]

I swear to fucking god, T-Bone, if I ever entertain the idea of signing up for a game again, come down to the Eastern Shore and cut my balls off

Uhhh no The Trouser God cannot be stopped. Be ready...

[Cerberus v666]

I'd join with you if I weren't taking a break & I could endure the erotica

Yep, that'll be my problem... Drixx and I planned on hydraing in SOMETHING, but I don't know if that'll be it, and I'm really a one game at a time kinda person, so we'll have to see if I end up missing out on this.

[Voidedmafia]

A draw is another way of saying that everyone loses. If I realized that this many people would actually care about whether the game ended in a loss or a draw or a win or whatever I might have done it differently, but I expected the players to be more interested in evaluating their performance on how the majority of the game went rather than on one sentence the mod wrote at the end of the game.

draw=/=loss.

And you're seriously surprised when players put in over four months of play and are upset when the mods don't give them

something

? Brantz/NM don't win because they weren't recruited (I'm assuming) (P-EDIT: Or simply because we would've blocked their kill if they had one, and in the end it would've come down to who could post first which autoloses for town anyways), and we didn't win because we auto-lose if it's us vs. scum, and I get that part, but saying everybody loses isn't right.

Also, Kuribo, plz don't lose the erotica, even if you never get to do it as a player.

[Voidedmafia]

FUCKING PEOPLE STOP POSTJACKING ME!

[T-Bone]

how did the “but my rolepm says i’m town” defence beat mine?

It wasn't really his defense,

just that everything in the setup that we thought we know

didn't point to Brantz's slot being scum.

This is the biggest letdown in a while...

I hope you know I banged my head against a wall over this, letting set-up spec trump the game thread...

[kuribo]

You have a game with signups up right? I might join as a hydra, I just need to talk drixx into enduring more erotica for me.

I *think* we're awaiting the final sign-off for setup review, unless that's changed in the last few hours.

[kuribo]

Theme Idea: Dusty Finish Mafia (the mod reserves the right to reverse their decision at endgame)

[T-Bone]

You have a game with signups up right? I might join as a hydra, I just need to talk drixx into enduring more erotica for me.

I *think* we're awaiting the final sign-off for setup review, unless that's changed in the last few hours.

Tell GiF to stop cockblocking us and unlock the thread

But yeah after paperwork gets sorted it's happening.

[Sonic Boom]

I was right not to setup spec roles... I was just stubborn about the wrong slot.

Sorry TPTG.

Plotinus, your play improved greatly once you quit being self-conscious. The fact you got people to debate this is amazing for a semi-newbie such as yourself. Don't feel like this was a let down. You refused to do the one thing that would let scum win. Sometimes, that's all you can do.

~Titus

[kuribo]

Plot can read the dead thread for my thoughts on him. I definitely think he showed a level of endgame play that I don't expect from newer players. This was a breakout performance in my mind for someone I had never heard of before.

[Plotinus]

thank you, Titus and Kuribo, that means a lot. <3

[AngryPidgeon]

In all seriousness though, what the hell was that vote on Plotinus. Holy cow. It was such an obvtown slot.

[Titus]

AP, that's cognitive dissonance for you. I think BC read them as town but thought no way, it had to be fake due to the setup. That is part of the reason I sometimes hold what people feel are ridiculous positions, such as the masons aren't conftown until one flips. Yes, it's a pain in the ass but situations like this DO happen.

[Cerberus v666]

AP, that's cognitive dissonance for you. I think BC read them as town but thought no way, it had to be fake due to the setup. That is part of the reason I sometimes hold what people feel are ridiculous positions, such as the masons aren't conftown until one flips. Yes, it's a pain in the ass but situations like this DO happen.

Yes. Setup spec RELIANCE ftl. It's a tool, not a crutch. Also, Titus, you've said you had things to say about me once this game was over?

[Titus]

AP, that's cognitive dissonance for you. I think BC read them as town but thought no way, it had to be fake due to the setup. That is part of the reason I sometimes hold what people feel are ridiculous positions, such as the masons aren't conftown until one flips. Yes, it's a pain in the ass but situations like this DO happen.

Yes. Setup spec RELIANCE ftl. It's a tool, not a crutch. Also, Titus, you've said you had things to say about me once this game was over?

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For translation, don't talk about ongoing in dead thread.

[Voidedmafia]

Yes. Setup spec RELIANCE ftl. It's a tool, not a crutch. Also, Titus, you've said you had things to say about me once this game was over?

Yes, yes, I'll admit I/we fell back on setup spec over the fact that Plot's analysis was really fucking town. It didn't really help that Bulb and Mastin were both effectively massively out-of-date, I was the only one who was really there from start to finish and has the worst memory out of all of us (although part of that still has to do with trying to pack in doing too many things at one time; you really forget stuff if you don't sit down with it), and Brantz just didn't have anything I could work with regardless.

I hate traitors, btw.

[Cerberus v666]

Ah. Sorry. I thought what you had to say was relevant to *this* game only, not elsewhere. Please disregard.

[Voidedmafia]

In any 1v1 draw situation I'd have to consult my comod before making any decision.
In the 2v2 scenario I would definitely run the game for a day because it's pretty likely that BC or Plotinus would vote for the other townie, allowing a quickhammer. If they figure out that BRantz and molla are scum together I would have to consult with dram on whether that'd be a draw.

Normally, I'd say yes, but since BRantz was an unrecruited traitor I'd say it's sort of 1.5 to 2? In other words, I don't

think

it's a draw? (but then I lost the game on setup spec, so what do I know <_<)

[ika]

well i come home ot see the end of this. i have no words to how nik decided to do that.

thats honestly worst modding i have ever seen.

everyone has already kidna said what i would of said already so im jsut going to leave it at that

[elusive]

It's finally over and technically this was my first scum game on this site and I didn't flail but deaths freaking check of me was so so lucky, I wish me and the other wolfy had actually killed someone that night

Yay town, in my head you won because the sheer freaking length of it caused the scums to hang themselves!

Cool setup, lots of roles and fun colors TOURMALINE was the prettiest tho !

[Voidedmafia]

Sodium hypobromate

Okay, this was good. I'll give you props for that, von.

[Voidedmafia]

Also SUCK IT HYDRA BITCHES I NEVER HYDRASLIPPED ONCE!

[wgeurts]

Well, this is hilarious

Pr-edit: shhhh, void