Inorganic Chemistry [GAME OVER, SCUM WIN]

[ZZZX]

Mastin the thing about hiplop is that the original reason for scum reading him didnt go away. Did everyone's reasoning mean nothing to you?
He has done nothing to change that.

[Lying Cat]

Hey Z. Thought exercise here. Link to me the original case on hiplop.

[Sonic Boom]

Mastina, that is the biggest wall of woah is me, ever. Your argument is also circular. You're griping that no one is following you because it is scum resistance. Then you argue because of scum resistance no one is sheeping you.

You are failing to consider us being town, logical play will confirm that and you should move on.

[hiplop]

[quote="In post 2301, Lying Cat"][/quote]

id also like tos ee this

[hiplop]

Mastina, that is the biggest wall of woah is me, ever. Your argument is also circular. You're griping that no one is following you because it is scum resistance. Then you argue because of scum resistance no one is sheeping you.

You are failing to consider us being town, logical play will confirm that and you should move on.

And the same cant be said for you in regards to me?

[Cerberus v666]

Mastina, that is the biggest wall of woah is me, ever. Your argument is also circular. You're griping that no one is following you because it is scum resistance. Then you argue because of scum resistance no one is sheeping you.

You are failing to consider us being town, logical play will confirm that and you should move on.

And the same cant be said for you in regards to me?

So, here's my issue: The only other individual being considered as a lynch option is Sonic, and sonic is at the top of my town list, right below SC. I actually agree with Mastins point about there not being any scum motivation in your posts(although, given how early the game is, that's a non-point. Being a lynch target and feigning disinterest is as likely a scum move as attempting to subtly direct pressure elsewhere, and more likely to work because said slot is obviously not being scummy because omg if they were scum they would totally be doing more to defend themselves. It's a wifom circle, because there aren't enough other options for maneuvering hiplop could do at this point in the game, and the case is circumstantial enough that you can't really argue against it. All you can do is say no, person x is scummier, or no, you're all wrong, and being stupid about this, and both of those lines are ones which could reasonably be taken by either scum or town at this point in the game.

With all that said, you're hovering right around null scum, after taking into account some of your recent posts, but I think your presence in the game is a destructive distraction if you are town, and this conversation will be rehashed every day until you flip or are investigated by someone who later flips town.

Yes, flubber is also part of the pool of scum along with sonic, but flubber isn't being voted. If you want someone from that group to be lynched, and don't want hiplop lynched, and want me on the wagon, I'm willing to vote flubber. I am not willing to vote Sonic.

[Cerberus v666]

I want to clarify something: I mean the pool of scum being offered up as an alternative to hiplop by mastin and hiplop.

[hiplop]

VOTE: flubber

there, then. Everyone agrees this guy is scum. Lets just end this shit

[Sonic Boom]

(For that matter, I see an extreme LACK of frustration from both Titus AND Metal Sonic. If they were town I'd expect them to be

furious

at me, but instead, they're ignoring me, bashing me, saying I am weaker than I am, just to mitigate my presence, just so that my voice has less impact than it by all rights should.)

hiplop almost certainly being town,

Hey! Mastin!

SMITE Mafia. Shut the

FUCK

up.


~Sonic

Hey! Mastin! SMITE Mafia.

Oh, you mean the game where the entirety of the third page of my iso is calling town town and calling 2/3 of the scum scum? Where I had vast reservations about the serial killer? Where I developed a groundbreaking plan which was one night short of outing the third scum? (Because if I had lived with my Esp guilty and Drixx didn't shoot, bam, I out everything and powerlynch him.)

That SMITE mafia?

Yeah, you're not gonna be able to use that game to shame me.

I told you then, I'll say it again. I'll accept the shortcomings there. (That being, I defended Drixx longer than I should have for the sake of the plan, mainly. And that I didn't push my scumreads harder and defend my townreads on TSO, Heartless, and such more.) I will not let you walk over me.

well vezok stopped the argument before it began, so

in short, STFU. thanks in advance!

you are a bit delusional

[vezokpiraka]

I think wicked, kari, mastin and flubber are scummy with no correlation to the hiplop flip. .

So...you

agree

with me that 3/4 of the people I suspect look bad...and you have me as the fourth?



And it isn't at all alarming to you that half the people there are pushing hiplop? (With the third absent from the game but expressing interest in voting there too.)

Way to go and take it out of context. Jaqen asked me who are my scumreads if hiplop flips town.

[vezokpiraka]

Mastin, you convinced me you're town. Scum wouldn't be this adamant about protecting a townie who's playing as poorly as me. I'm not influential enough for my read on you to matter, so I can tell your doing it out of genuinity.

To me that's why I trust your reads a tiny bit more than everyone else's? You're basically 100% town to me, it wouldn't make any logical sense for you to be scum

I personally still think vezok is the scum you're missing. Dude is just relaying everyone's reads and it makes no sense. You pointed this out in one of your posts. He's scumreading my entire wagon yet is saying my wagon is town-lead. What? Osunds almost like his scumreads are composed of entirely the names being frequently tossed around

Sonic is scum for the exact reason mastin is town, Ms is a really fucking good player. He wouldn't be pushing this hard for someone like me who honestly is getting lynched for the most questionable and weak reasons. Yeah, ive been lazy, but that's really it? And honestly I hate self meta, but if you look at any town game by me recently, this is basically it. I get lazy and then get lynched early on. Contrarily, as scum I've recently won every game for being perceived as pro town. Scum see me as an easy mislynch, and lately I am, in fortunately

Yeah. Tell me more about how I'm scumreading people on your wagon if you flip town.

You know, there is such a thing as context. You should learn to use, because otherwise you sound dumb.

[Jaqen Hghar]

I believe you were talking about scum skipping a kill in order to frame someone, correct? So the scum gave up a kill to attempt to get town to mislynch. Perhaps I misunderstood you and there was some other plan you suggested scum could utilize?

No. A man is saying scum killing someone other than the one designated for night investigation. The next day, especially since some are already raising godfather paranoia, all the WIFOM is present for scum to easy join/push a mislynch on the town they are letting live the night before. All it is taking to pull this off is scum killing 2-3 designees in a row then skipping one. After that it's simple enough to keep screwing with town with on again off again kills of the one they are knkwing is to be investigated (since Lying Cat is advocating investigating the Cop from the day before which consequently isn't directing scum to kill the target we are finding the most scummy).

A man isn't saying anything about scum no killing. That's a different strategy all together.

Did you just call everyone here idiots? I think you just did.

This one reading a little

too

much into things and making things up which aren't being said. A man is saying many are following scum because they are perceived to be good players instead of seeing the crap they're throwing out.

[Jaqen Hghar]

A man is naming you all idiots in a different post.

[Jaqen Hghar]

Can you rephrase that?

My point was that I've been trying to gather allies

Isn't this one saying the one fircing a townbloc is usually scum?

[Jaqen Hghar]

*forcing

Why is autocorrect fixing words spelled correctly and leaving the shit ones alone...

[Jaqen Hghar]

All the Reasons Sonic is Scum

D1 Sonic is asking a man if he is ever catching all the scum on the first day

A man is conveying that he is usually catching 50-60% (2-3), but never all

Sonic is acquiescing this is just so and is even going on to say he is knowing from experience a man is more than pretty decent with finding scum.

D2, at the very beginning of the day even, Sonic is throwing shit at all of a man's reads because one of them is flipping town- after just the day prior giving a man props for well better than average scumhunting

*******

Then is coming the matter if ZZZX.

A man is naming this one scum as well on D1

Sonic is immediately counter reading that one

A man doesn't put much stock into mets in general, with a few exceptions. When one plays as Z does- a very habitually distinct meta in regards to his role- meta is a very reliable way of sorting them. A man is describing to Sonic that a cheeky (witty, smartassed) ZZZX is meaning he is having a scum role. Lurky Z is town PR. Attacking all directions Z is VT. Even ZZZX acknowledges a man is pretty much right in his analysis adding only that he us "fearless" as VT

Sonic, without hesitation is sticking to his town read on ZZZX

Regardless if the X-man is having whichever role, a man's breakdown of that one along with Z actually agreeing with it in thread should be enough for Sonic to be at least investigating his thoughts on that one, but nope. Sonic is sticking to his guns with Z town

*******

Bins is neighborizing Sonic N1 and coming up dead for it

Sure, that one is claiming PR but more oft than not a D1 claimed PR is dismissed by scum as a ploy to be drawing the kill

The better motive for lynching that one is fear of slipping in a neighbor PT and denouncing a man's scum reads (given a man is usually more right than wrong)

*******

Titus

still

having practically no meaningful interactions with Jaqen is alarming. After sharing a hydra where we are talking quite a bit about our play styles and how we are acting under certain circumstances, one would be expecting some sort of back and forth. And yet, to date, all a man is getting from that one is second hand through her other head.

[Sonic Boom]

nope! all wrong, all bad^

[Sonic Boom]

Agreed. Apparently, Jaquen cannot tell which head is talking or cannot define meaningful this game. The more he pressures that I am scum, the more we can see he is wrong.

He has come up with flight of fancy reasons why we have to be lynched and not copped tonight. He is also acting very different from virtually any town game we have seen him in. After Hiplop flips scum, I have every intention of proving Jaquen as scum.

[Sonic Boom]

Yo Mastina, reads if we're town. It will save you time to do it now.

[ika]

the spam in this game needs to go

[vezokpiraka]

the spam in this game needs to go

How about no.

[Flubbernugget]

Jaqen just made a complete scum case on sonic boom without a single actual scumtell in it and quite frankly I'm impressed. I'm willing to call him scum. Him breaking down the LC plan into "but guys wifom ruins it" is garbage

Cerb came out of lurking again to theory post. And oh look, it's attacking jaquen's gripes with the LC plan. Excellent way to

look

town if you ask me

There's this crazy theory of mine that mas is calling the wagon on hiplop scum driven with enough noise to help stall it, possibly into another no lynch. Kinda how like politicians keep repeating the same bullshit over and over because with enough repetition someone's bound to believe it. Also the posting is objectively awful based on my subjective experience with it and you guys can all trust me or [

insert vague theat about town losing here

]

I'll keep wicked as scum so I can say I have 4 scum reads and call it a day. I should technically have 5 because jaquen/Cerb don't make sense scumbuddies but I'll just grumble pre-flipped associatives bussing and other buzzwords until nobody notices

[Flubbernugget]

Also vez is town bored with the game state

[Cerberus v666]

Clubber: pretty sure I said more than just theory posts, but you're welcome to gloss over the rest of my post if you'd like.

Jaqen: seriously, you think scum would rather kill bins than use her power and the neighborhood as a way to get more insight into what the neighborhood players are thinking but not saying in threads?

[Wickedestjr]

She looked to be doing what youre accusing me of, and it made me change my views of her.

No, she did not do what I am accusing you of. Any townie that is about to get lynched

should

be survival voting. Bins made it obvious that's what she was doing. It felt like you were trying to disguise your survival vote as a regular genuine vote and that's the problem I have.