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Post Post #2325 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:15 am

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hiplop wrote:Wickedest, I care about finding scum. I just know we
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with boom and flubber. I'd be fine with either of their heads, and thats why I'm lacking in things to say!

You know that Flubber is scum? Interesting because four days ago you said;
hiplop wrote:Mastin, I would be fine with a flubber lynch. I dont think ANYONE sees him as town

which is a much weaker stance. You never said what bothered you in-between. You've pretty much ignored him for the whole game, besides repeating that you suspect him.

If you have such a strong scum read on him, you should explain why. Simply voting for him does nothing to make me think you're town - it does, however, increase my suspicion that you and Flubber are partners.
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Post Post #2326 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:43 am

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Post Post #2327 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:32 am

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It was a genuine vote. I was shocked she flipped town after that.
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Post Post #2328 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:33 am

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Pictured here:wickedest trying to fabricate something incrediblyntiny into something larger, while also defending pressure off of flubber

I think we're dealing with a flubber/wicked team. (Maybe sonic? Less sure there)
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Post Post #2329 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:34 am

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Are you kidding me? Being" not town " and Mafia sure sound like the same fucking stance. Nice try
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Post Post #2330 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:44 am

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No, it's "I would be fine with a flubber lynch" vs. "I just know flubber is scum"
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Post Post #2331 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:21 am

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Cerberus v666 wrote:Clubber: pretty sure I said more than just theory posts, but you're welcome to gloss over the rest of my post if you'd like.

Jaqen: seriously, you think scum would rather kill bins than use her power and the neighborhood as a way to get more insight into what the neighborhood players are thinking but not saying in threads?


No. A man is just wasting his time piecing together things and posting them for no reason in particular. /sarcasm
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Post Post #2332 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:22 am

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Wicked is wicked good at finding slips....

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Post Post #2333 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:10 am

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Jaqen Hghar wrote:
Cerberus v666 wrote:Clubber: pretty sure I said more than just theory posts, but you're welcome to gloss over the rest of my post if you'd like.

Jaqen: seriously, you think scum would rather kill bins than use her power and the neighborhood as a way to get more insight into what the neighborhood players are thinking but not saying in threads?


No. A man is just wasting his time piecing together things and posting them for no reason in particular. /sarcasm


So my derision is justified. Good to know. I think it's possible you're right, but that your focus on the path that confirms your suspicions is foolish and short sighted.
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Post Post #2334 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:02 pm

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Cerberus v666 wrote:
Jaqen Hghar wrote:
Cerberus v666 wrote:Clubber: pretty sure I said more than just theory posts, but you're welcome to gloss over the rest of my post if you'd like.

Jaqen: seriously, you think scum would rather kill bins than use her power and the neighborhood as a way to get more insight into what the neighborhood players are thinking but not saying in threads?


No. A man is just wasting his time piecing together things and posting them for no reason in particular. /sarcasm


So my derision is justified. Good to know. I think it's possible you're right, but that your focus on the path that confirms your suspicions is foolish and short sighted.


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Post Post #2335 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:04 pm

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In other words- if a man is right, who's the fool? A man for pushing his reads with good reason or the one confbiasing town on a scum slot?
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Post Post #2336 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:09 pm

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ika wrote:the spam in this game needs to go


Yes some content in your ISO would be nice. Again. It's been forever since you're PoE wall.

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Post Post #2337 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:10 pm

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Wickedestjr wrote:
hiplop wrote:Wickedest, I care about finding scum. I just know we
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with boom and flubber. I'd be fine with either of their heads, and thats why I'm lacking in things to say!

You know that Flubber is scum? Interesting because four days ago you said;
hiplop wrote:Mastin, I would be fine with a flubber lynch. I dont think ANYONE sees him as town

which is a much weaker stance. You never said what bothered you in-between. You've pretty much ignored him for the whole game, besides repeating that you suspect him.

If you have such a strong scum read on him, you should explain why. Simply voting for him does nothing to make me think you're town - it does, however, increase my suspicion that you and Flubber are partners.


Those quotes are different ways of saying the same thing.

I think that Flubber is town and that they were trying to float a different mislynch wagon. Worse comes to worse, the bad reasoning makes them look like partners. Caught scum's best position is to either a) not give reasons at all or b) make the reasons so complex no one gets them.

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Post Post #2338 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:19 pm

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Jaqen Hghar wrote:In other words- if a man is right, who's the fool? A man for pushing his reads with good reason or the one confbiasing town on a scum slot?


If a man is right, a man is still a fool for being foolish. One can be right, and still be foolish in the way one is approaching the game.

In short, just try to be open minded. Or don't, and just be as arrogant as others seem to be, in their complete certainty in their reads. You were already wrong about bins, and I know you were wrong about me. That certainly doesn't give me much cause to think you have any idea what you're talking about.
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Post Post #2339 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:21 pm

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See, wicked. Even sonic knows you're wrong lol?
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Post Post #2340 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:23 pm

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I am fine with his lynch because "I don't think anyone thinks he's town". I'm a person, therefore included in anyone. Not being town = Mafia. Therefore, I think he's scum and want his lynch. Making something out of nothing, wicked
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Post Post #2341 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:45 pm

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hiplop wrote:I am fine with his lynch because "I don't think anyone thinks he's town". I'm a person, therefore included in anyone. Not being town = Mafia. Therefore, I think he's scum and want his lynch. Making something out of nothing, wicked


No. And no.

I think everything Wicked posted on that post was accurate but for the "weaker stance" part. Both your statements were devoid of reasoning which is consistent of caught scum.

I said you were setting Flubbed up to be a mislynch. Logically, I think Flubber is town and have said it multiple times.
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Post Post #2342 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:21 pm

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I still disagree with you both.

He currently claims that he knows Flubber is scum (or at least is very confident of that).

But the original quote was "I would be fine with a flubber lynch. I don't think ANYONE sees him as town" --> so clearly his justification for being fine with the lynch is that nobody town reads him - NOT that he has a very confident scum read on the slot. If hiplop is town and always had a strong scum read on Flubber, then I believe he would have said something along the lines "I would be fine with a flubber lynch.
He's really scummy
" and perhaps given reasoning or perhaps said something that shows he's trying to kill off scum rather than just save his own skin.

It really seems like his 'strong' scum read on Flubber is fake. And often times when scum has a strong scum read on someone, it's a distancing technique. Again, if he was town with a strong scum read, you'd think he'd actually want to convince people, no? If I had a strong scum read (like now) that's when I REALLY find motivation to post and to argue my case. His lack of effort is evidence of a.) no strong reads or b.) scum.
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Post Post #2343 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 2:34 pm

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I agree with your end conclusion (lack of push = scum). I see both posts coming from someone scumreading Flubber. If no one townreads a player, the implication is that the poster also scumreads the player. It's passive voice which is outdated grammar and confusing, but not stating that Flubber's a null read.

Hiplop is still scum precisely because that lack of a drive and he's perfectly content stalling out on wagons he's lynch shopping. (Namely: Me and Flubber).

Flubber and Mastina can be easily resolved by the cop inventor though, so I don't feel like laboring the point gets us much.

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Post Post #2344 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:07 pm

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Sonic Boom wrote:
hiplop wrote:I am fine with his lynch because "I don't think anyone thinks he's town". I'm a person, therefore included in anyone. Not being town = Mafia. Therefore, I think he's scum and want his lynch. Making something out of nothing, wicked


No. And no.

I think everything Wicked posted on that post was accurate but for the "weaker stance" part. Both your statements were devoid of reasoning which is consistent of caught scum.

I said you were setting Flubbed up to be a mislynch. Logically, I think Flubber is town and have said it multiple times.


thats the only part i was talking about
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Post Post #2345 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:24 pm

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Cerberus v666 wrote:
Jaqen Hghar wrote:In other words- if a man is right, who's the fool? A man for pushing his reads with good reason or the one confbiasing town on a scum slot?


If a man is right, a man is still a fool for being foolish. One can be right, and still be foolish in the way one is approaching the game.

In short, just try to be open minded. Or don't, and just be as arrogant as others seem to be, in their complete certainty in their reads. You were already wrong about bins, and I know you were wrong about me. That certainly doesn't give me much cause to think you have any idea what you're talking about.


If a man isn't open minded, why is he dropping that scum read well before day's end? Besides, if a man isn't comfortable enough with his reads to stand behind them, who is standing with him? So, try misrepresenting a man's play some more.
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Post Post #2346 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:26 pm

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Cerberus v666 wrote: b) make the reasons so complex no one gets them.

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Which isn't even need much complexity for this to be happening. Apparently.
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Post Post #2347 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:34 pm

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Sonic Boom wrote:Agreed. Apparently, Jaquen cannot tell which head is talking or cannot define meaningful this game. The more he pressures that I am scum, the more we can see he is wrong.


Detracting from a man's reads and telling him he must needs think differently are from from meaningful. If a man is missing something with Titus meat, quote it.
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Post Post #2348 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:06 pm

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Sonic Boom wrote:I agree with your end conclusion (lack of push = scum). I see both posts coming from someone scumreading Flubber. If no one townreads a player, the implication is that the poster also scumreads the player. It's passive voice which is outdated grammar and confusing, but not stating that Flubber's a null read.

Okay, I agree with this. But I still think the progression from one quote to the other + the lack of push/evidence from him is scummy.

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Sonic Boom wrote:@Wicked, This situation came up in another game. Ika was not around, did not hammer and was scum. It was not deadline though. He made a similar argument pre and post game that it was taking advantage of his circumstances. I disagreed then and still do, yet if he feels that way, I get why he was upset.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/o ... ce.377844/

Found the post game argument. Thanks for that, it's very relevant. Why do you still disagree?

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Post Post #2349 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:26 pm

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do we have an l-1 yet?
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