STEVEN UNIVERSE MAFIA - GAME OVER

[Skybird]

Marquis, what's your case on Sonic?

[Sonic X]

No, I want to lynch both of you regardless of the first flip, to cover all possibilities. I'm relatively confident it will yield at least 1 dead scum.

Pedit: lol, that is a shitty-ass post. 70% is a cautious value because it sounds high while also leaving plenty of room for exception. Also I think I made it clear that I don't know who is which alignment, which is why I want to lynch both of you regardless of flips. Are you scumreading me now then?

you do realise that your post has more scum motivation than town motivation?

don't be wondering how you are easily lynched. **


70% is the score I need to get an A grade in my school. fuck off.

i can show you games where scum went 'this is scum vs town' and they both flipped town, it is not difficult to find.


i would like to believe that I can read you easily, especially when you're town. so please, play that way.

[Ricastle]

VOTE: Sonic X

[T S O]

Ego to make this thread easier for me to catch up on.

[Sonic X]

daykill:ricastle

[Ricastle]

Good one.

[vezokpiraka]

I'm liking farside's questioning and poking. Think she's town.

Not liking Verzok's tunnel. Beer's posts are strange and I'm going to assume the posts in their PT are also strange. But I think Verzok is misrepping Beer in order to get him lynched. Scum read on Verzok.

Yes. I'm actually a scum double-voter in a neighbourhood with town and decided to go all in a gambit with very little pay-out day 1. How do you arrive at such brilliant conclusions my master Skybird? /sarcasm.

[Sonic X]

oh, yea, you're a doublevoter


all doublevoters are town. the scum dude in smite doesnt count, because it didnt reveal in his role flip. farside's slot was a doublevoter and flipped town

yea, i would say vezok conftown but some people would cock about it

[Sonic X]

Good one.

thank you


tso was more obnoxious when I sniped the first scum in smite mafia. though he wasn't the one getting shot, ha

[Ricastle]

No, I mean it was a good joke.

[Sonic X]

I love how ric is trying to make anything we say something scummy. Loving how u even made out that 70% (which is standard A grade in UK universities) is something scummy.

I don't fucking get how you think. But a flip prob will clear stuff up,So we can lynch beer after you flip scum.

[Sonic X]

Above is -Z

[farside22]

Spoiler: @farside

nobody who has played mafia for over 1 month would honestly admit to omgus reasoning.*


like, my rebound on beer is secretly part of omgus reasoning. but you don't see that in any of my posts, or attacks against him

actually i am not even attacking at all. i am defending. from his "attacks" that are actually fueled (secretly) by omgus reasoning. because when i look into the reasoning for his posts it is actually no visible discernable reasoning. which I have shown.




*except me. i just admitted to omgus reasoning.

You know I think your town right?

In all seriousness I agreed with Beer about Cheet and would love to see a wagon on him.

No, I want to lynch both of you regardless of the first flip, to cover all possibilities. I'm relatively confident it will yield at least 1 dead scum.

Pedit: lol, that is a shitty-ass post. 70% is a cautious value because it sounds high while also leaving plenty of room for exception. Also I think I made it clear that I don't know who is which alignment, which is why I want to lynch both of you regardless of flips. Are you scumreading me now then?

I'm liking farside's questioning and poking. Think she's town.

Not liking Verzok's tunnel. Beer's posts are strange and I'm going to assume the posts in their PT are also strange. But I think Verzok is misrepping Beer in order to get him lynched. Scum read on Verzok.

I'm liking farside's questioning and poking. Think she's town.

Not liking Verzok's tunnel. Beer's posts are strange and I'm going to assume the posts in their PT are also strange. But I think Verzok is misrepping Beer in order to get him lynched. Scum read on Verzok.

Yes. I'm actually a scum double-voter in a neighbourhood with town and decided to go all in a gambit with very little pay-out day 1. How do you arrive at such brilliant conclusions my master Skybird? /sarcasm.

It's days like this I'm happy to say I'm not the only sarcastic person in the world. Thank you Vezo for saying in words to skybird that was in my own head.

[farside22]

Oh and Ric, you lost some town points from your post.

[Ricastle]

I love how ric is trying to make anything we say something scummy. Loving how u even made out that 70% (which is standard A grade in UK universities) is something scummy.

I don't fucking get how you think. But a flip prob will clear stuff up,So we can lynch beer after you flip scum.

We aren't in university. That has no bearing on anything.

[CooLDoG]

13 fucking pages, jesus christ.

[Beer]

Pawtucket here!

First off, I apologize for my other head's play thus far. I'm still getting used to adjusting to the way they play the game because they make every time I open the game a headache and a half (my motivation to even post seems sapped away!), but I just want everyone to know mostly for post-game reasons that this opening was all them and not approved by us at all. I honestly don't know what to say beyond that. It's not like I can say something that is better than all of the terrible things he's put out into the thread so far, so I'm catching up and I'm trying my best and I hope that if people will at least appreciate my words in particular after we flip.

Spoiler: Catch-up Commentary

That's the only way I can see it feasibly working.

Also, I'm pretty sure the mod just confirmed mastin is lying. VOTE: mastin2

Do you think that mastin-scum would lie about something that could be proven false by the first page? It seems like a bit of a ridiculous idea to me.

Guys. Beer is scum. He's my ally and his entry there is fucking horrible.

I think that vezok's push on us feels fairly genuine, all things considered. While I'd imagine that vezok would attack us with wild abandon regardless of his alignment because it's the optimal move either way thanks to the dumb actions by my partner, there was a particular comment in the neighborhood where he expressed how amazed he was that we weren't lynched yet that I think would be unlikely for him to make if he was scum. I think that if he were scum pushing us, all of his faking efforts and reactions would go towards lynching us in the thread (so other people could see him react to us and so we were less likely to survive): faking efforts in the thread as well is either genuine or going the extra mile, and I lean pretty strongly towards genuine at this point.

Cerb, can you ask Drixx if we can ally? I think it would help the four of us read each other better tonight and get grips on things.

Do any of the heads have history with one another?
If not, I'm not really sure where this request comes from.

The fact that it's Lars and Sadie is what leads me to believe they are both in a neighbourhood together. Either one is lying or both are lying about their role names. I highly doubt it's the latter, because if one dies and turns out to not be Lars or Sadie, then you know the other one is lying. There's no way a Lars or a Sadie would start off in a neighbourhood without the other. So I'm inclined to believe them. So, if they are telling the truth, then it follows that Sadie is town. Lars is more unclear, and I concede that they could be scum. Personally, I don't think so, but I'm not going to let that stop me from looking at the situation properly. And right now, the situation is that vezok is claiming one thing, we haven't heard the other side of the story from Beer yet, and we already know that those two do not get along. So simply voting Beer would be really ignorant in my opinion.

This overly complicated thought process about our neighborhood dynamics and conclusion of not voting us followed by vezok reiterating we claimed scum and Maxwell going "oh, ok, I'll vote them" seems fairly town to me. If scum, it's a good deal of showing his work to jump on a really really easy wagon he doesn't need to put half as much effort in pushing as he has here.

On a side note, maxwell is really town,

This seems like a strange read.

Neighborhood PSA try to align with people you respect but cannot get along with well for some reason.

Why?

Man, I would have believed Beer if he had just said "It was a joke."

This is what he'd say if he was a normal human being or a considerate hydra partner. Unfortunately, he is neither of those things.

I'm pretty uncomfortable with Sonic X's hostility towards us. I don't have a particularly strong read on the slot.

Ultimately, I didn't really feel I got a crazy amount of information about alignment from my readthrough.

I feel like vezokpiraraka and Maxwell are both probably town for the way they approached their respective suspicions on us.
I think mastin is probably town because claim and behaviour around her claim.
I feel like farside's first couple of catchup spurts were very disappointing and lifeless but later she picked up a good amount, leaving me conflicted on her.

Vote: Ra9in9 Bull

is probably where I'm starting at the moment.

161 is pretty bad. It's just mostly stating facts and pointless reads trying to seem analytic.

I don't really like the attack here, it feels like you're just picking out an easy target to attack and going for it because his first post didn't really seem like anything like that to me at all, it just seems like a reads list early game when nothing really happened. If he's providing information instead of analyzing the world around him, what information did he provide? Why were his reads pointless?

Sincerely,
Pawtucket

[MaxwellPuckett]

Alright, evidently I should keep all flavour out my posts. Noted.

Vezok scumreads Beer. Beer does comment on the situation, saying that they had an argument and citing that as the reason for the scumread. Now, vezok claims that Beer outright claimed scum in their PT. I want to hear what Beer has to say about this.

Seriously. We all have role PMs. Read them. Varsoon obviously put effort into the flavour, and it's freaking awesome. Regardless of alignments, either they are actually Lars and Sadie, or they are both lying. That's all there is to it.

why do you think they are both lying.
I feel like you just are fearmongering the whole situation.

This kind of sums up your case on me. The fact that you are misinterpreting my posts, and not really trying to understand them at all. Now, this post that you quoted is pretty embarassing, yes, because it was written when I was in mad flavour canon mode. Read the thing you quoted. I didn't say I thought they were both lying. I said I thought that either they were both lying, or both telling the truth, about their role names. But I was operating under the assumption that they were not lying. Please at least attempt to understand my thought process here.

Also:

All of this together is why I don't like Max. Goes from I don't believe Vezo and he could be lying to calling him town, to writing up crap reason's for disputing the whole push by Vezo.

I never said I didn't believe Vezok. I said I thought Vezok was misunderstanding the situation, I never called him a liar. My thoughts about the whole situation do change as my posts happen, though... which is kind of a natural consequence of, that thing called thinking. Reevaluating your thoughts and changing them as other people give you information.

Anyways, now that Beer has actually spoken about this in more detail, I can see where the confusion came from. Beer's posts are.. interesting. They're kind of hilarious actually, but that's besides the point. I said I was happy to vote him, but now I'm not so sure. He's been like this all game, including the neighbourhood PT I'm guessing.. it's not strange that vezok would be pushing on him like this. But I'm not sure if a town player would continue behaving like this in this situation.

[MaxwellPuckett]

Oh man, I completely missed Pawtucket's post right before mine. I actually forgot Beer was a hydra. Pawtucket, do you regret your choice of hydra partner? He's entertaining at least.

VOTE: Marquis

I should have done that earlier.

[Marquis]

hello pawty on a scale from 5 to 10 how amished are u

pedit maxxy that is not a good vote

[Marquis]

Marquis, what's your case on Sonic?

VOTE: skybird

i don't think you actually care. empty empty scum

[farside22]

Hi Max.
Just from my pov it seemed like you where all over the place in retrospect with your reads. One moment is high and the next is like crazy weird.
I like your response so I will just drop you down my list to null and smack you around when you go crazy weird again.
TLDR: Stop mod gaming and we will get along fine.

Hey Beer: Yeah, don't ever ask about how crazy my days are. I was very spasdic on Monday with my post and couldn't read things in full without interuption. Today I have more freedom to relax (yah caught up at work!) and actuall get my groove into this game today.

I love the ragining bull vote and would fully support that as well.

[CooLDoG]

a fucking catchup post... goddamn

Spoiler: shit no one is actually going to read

Varsoon is literally the worst.

He's lucky it's ME who got this role (because I'm too stubborn to replace out), because the VAST majority of Scummers, if they had the role I do, would quickly lose interest in the game and replace out/flake.

...Basically, I'm a tree stump with all the sucky parts but none of the benefits. I'm voteless, will become conftown on D3, and yet, distinctly,

lack

the immunity to actions (in particular, y'know, NIGHTKILLS) that come with 'stumps. Yeah. I'm a bit bitter.

this role does not make sense. Not sure if telling the truth.

yo

ima goddamn miller

fuck this game...

Hello, everybody!

I feel it is my duty (hehe, I said doody) to tell you all this:

WE ARE A BUD LIGHT.

You have been warned!

light beer sucks.

i think its better to claim this early:

If you are townreading me, please use a night action on me. Any kind (except vig kills, duh): Cop, Doc, Jailkeep, Track, Watch -- any kind. If you're not townreading me, then fine. Thanks.

this is dumb. Is it not a better play for the hypothetical cop to target a possible scum suspect? Note that you are NOT asking for whatever the alliance bullshit is...

VOTE: Beer

Don't care about the possibility of Jester. I will plow through WIFOM.

not a reason to vote people...

I might be tipsy, but Sonic looks really evil.

You talking to me??

fake forced bs.

Oh, wow, not understanding flavour is already fucking me over.

I have no understanding of the flavor and it isn't fucking me over... I doubt that varsoon would break the game with flavor.

Also I was thinking of the fusion part of the game and maybe say publicly who we want to ally/fuse with.
Thought?

I'm open to ally/fuse up with anyone who wants!

yeah, I'm sure you are. FUcking succubus.

Ah. Yes, sure, one could be scum. Maxwell is making a silly assumption and disregarding perfectly reasonable possibilities.

-Cerb

what a reasonable and rational post.

...I... when did I say that one couldn't be scum? I just said I don't think they're both lying about their flavour names. Just the flavour names. I said that Lars could be scum. Hell, I'm getting ready to vote him. Did you miss that?

I know Varsoon's not an idiot.

P-Edit: I didn't say that Lars couldn't be scum! I didn't say that! Holy bejeezus!

Ricastle: I'm talking about vezok saying that Beer started talking about flavour after the entry thing, and then later said that he was scum and was trying to discredit vezok. The entry thing wasn't a scum claim.

In essence I was saying nothing.

I'll talk girls with you. Or you can pick my brain.

LET'S ADD MORE NOTHING!

Yeah if anyone was reading scum it would be Mastin. Everything about his posts seem odd. And even if he's just what he claims to be, then we know that Farside is lying. So my best bet for scum read would be Mastin. Followed by Beer even though something about his posts makes me think there's a special clause or something. (Like I said, like a Jester or something if they exist in this game.)

And we pick on the obvious and easy target.

Treestump could be scum too.
Man I feel like I'm gonna be fighting an uphill battle on making sure people aren't writing off people for silly reasons.

ikr

Btw, targeting to me to ally w/ me is pointless. Don't waste it on me. I mean, I'm flattered, really. But don't do it. It's wasteful.

This is a really important claim btw. Don't miss it.

it is important, but it isn't wasteful... I mean, we gotta check that shit at some point if/when it becomes relevant.

Important stuff: Sonic asking for cop is scummy. 40. And his reads are bad and easy. There is no effort.
max's post 64 is dumb. Clearly has opinions, votes for the dude who hasn't said anything. scummy, but sonic more so. His later posts are just flavor detective bullshit that don't mean anything to me.
radman's posts, like 156 are coasting. I find them scummy.
I find that me and farside jsut simply disagree again. Not scummy, but I think her posts are just wrong.

vote: radmann9

[CooLDoG]

in essence radmann is trying to bait some night actions to target him. If it would give the town an advantage he should be more explicit about what his role is. This half-way bullshit makes me think it is some type of scum role.

[Varsoon]

To date, all of the gems (reportedly) are located on various chakra points, both major and minor.

Spoiler: