Inorganic Chemistry [GAME OVER, SCUM WIN]

[Sonic Boom]

Why have we not lynched ika yet?

Because him only voting me, sadly, is not alignment indicative. I'd be glad to vote him, but It'd be policy.

[mastin2]

i don't know if he was trying to pull a gambit or something but we didn't get a commute

Okay then.

Proceed as normal.

VOTE: Wickedestjr.

i'm fairly sure the commute inventor is scum though setupwise and choice-of-target-wise tho lol

Because a town having no protective power is totally a good idea, and the commuter giving it out to likely nightkill targets is totally a scum-motivated move.

[Lying Cat]

Why have we not lynched ika yet?

Because him only voting me, sadly, is not alignment indicative. I'd be glad to vote him, but It'd be policy.

There is a strong case for ika scum. Count his posts in his town games vs his scumgames.

[Lying Cat]

Leaving now. Catch y'all on the flip.

[Lying Cat]

By which I mean "don't claim any fucking roles or lynch anybody until I'm back."

[Wickedestjr]

Frankly, the commuter is obvtown, giving to players likely to be nightkilled. LC was the target D1, and the target for D2 would probably be someone like, say, Nacho. They're going to be using it as a doc protect, so no, not scum.

Seriously, mastin? If the commute inventor is scum, then they know who scum are going to kill and they can just give the commute to some other townish player…

[Shakira Confirmed]

It wasn't a misspoke. I just was trying to get Mastin to target me to make it easier to lynch her.
But yes, it's pretty obvious the commute inventor is scum.
Call me a hypocrite for freaking out about you guys trying to lynch Bins but lynching scum is more important.
Bye for real this time.

[Sonic Boom]

Why have we not lynched ika yet?

Because him only voting me, sadly, is not alignment indicative. I'd be glad to vote him, but It'd be policy.

There is a strong case for ika scum. Count his posts in his town games vs his scumgames.

I've seen him lurk to throw his towngames. Yes, this same pattern is what I did use to catch him in Uncouth mafia.

[Shakira Confirmed]

Because a town having no protective power is totally a good idea,

but not impossible, or even unlikely with a weak cop INVENTION around

and the commuter giving it out to likely nightkill targets is totally a scum-motivated move.

1) and yet not actual nightkill targets so this is kind of fallacious by the odds
2)

[Shakira Confirmed]

EBWOP first half:

Because a town having no protective power is totally a good idea,

but not impossible, or even unlikely with a

weak cop INVENTION

around

[Shakira Confirmed]

Frankly, the commuter is obvtown, giving to players likely to be nightkilled. LC was the target D1, and the target for D2 would probably be someone like, say, Nacho. They're going to be using it as a doc protect, so no, not scum.

Seriously, mastin? If the commute inventor is scum, then they know who scum are going to kill and they can just give the commute to some other townish player…

yes this is basically the point

a commute inventor has massive utility for scum

[Sonic Boom]

Yeah, there's one deadly scenario that can happen, but if the chain of everyone claiming is alive, I can discuss it then. Kinda outlandish as is.

[Wickedestjr]

Wicked, the sheer stupidity I've seen town do means that yes anything can happen.

Rather than arguing with Mastina, how about voting her.

Yes, but this argument isn’t about townies in general. She is accusing

me

specifically of planning to do something that

I

would be stupid to do. I’m not stupid.

I don’t think mastin is scum. If I were to vote right now, it’d be for Flubber. But I was wrong yesterday and have some work to do for recalibrating my reads.

[Wickedestjr]

Lying Cat is as good as conftown to me right now because, bluntly, if LC was scum, then I would be dead right now, yet here I am.

Why is this true?

Because there is a very specific dynamic between LC and I that you don't get, and frankly it's better off that you don't know about it.

I don't see what kind of special dynamic would make you more threatening to him than a claimed power role (Bins) or a candidate for cop inventor (ZZZX).

[mastin2]

but not impossible, or even unlikely with a

weak cop INVENTION

around

Weak cop inventor INCREASES the need for the commuter to be town, not DECREASES. If the commute inventor wasn't town, then (1) the results from the weak cop would be borderline useless, nullifying THE ENTIRETY OF THE TOWN'S POWER, and (2) without a breaking strategy being made (which Antihero, I imagine, would try his hardest to prevent), it would be fully possible for the town to lose a BUNCH of town players to unclaimed investigations. As in, a bunch of players investigate scum, without claiming their target in advance, because they don't KNOW about the power in advance, and die as a result, in addition to the scum nightkill. That didn't happen this game, but it was something that COULD have happened and it's ridiculous to think that Anti wouldn't be aware of it.

1) and yet not actual nightkill targets so this is kind of fallacious by the odds

There are dozens of reasons why the commute inventor wouldn't gift to Bins, and you'd have to be INSANE to think that the commute inventor would EVER have gifted to ZZZX.

So not stopping the nightkills is entirely reasonable. Give it time; sooner or later, the commute inventor is going to get it right.

The commute inventor is town.

[vezokpiraka]

vote cerb

Am drunk. Will explain later.

[Wickedestjr]

Why have we not lynched ika yet?

Because him only voting me, sadly, is not alignment indicative. I'd be glad to vote him, but It'd be policy.

There is a strong case for ika scum. Count his posts in his town games vs his scumgames.

I've seen him lurk to throw his towngames. Yes, this same pattern is what I did use to catch him in Uncouth mafia.

I can't tell if this is supposed to be a point for or against ika... Please explain?

[mastin2]

a commute inventor has massive utility for scum

(1) so much utility that IT'D OVERPOWER THE SCUM, (2) they wouldn't target town (and yet LC claimed it D2) as to remain anonymous, (3) and would take as many steps as needed to make sure the power was secretive, (4) SPECIFICALLY TO MESS WITH INVESTIGATIONS LIKE THE WEAK COP.

Flaunting it out by giving it to likely nightkill targets?

Again. Not scum.

[Jaqen Hghar]

Jaquen wouldn't scum have to know who the invention recipent was to redirect?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bus_Driver

Jaqen, who are your top four suspects right now?

A man is thinking Griffindor as hard as he can, but this tinfoil sorting hat sitting on a man's head is screaming Sonic, vezokpiraka, Aristophanes (all you people voting Mac really need to keep up with the changes), flubbernugget, and Nacho in no particular order outside the first.

************

With Cerberus having protection last night and Z dying, Sonic is confscum.

[Cerberus v666]

Jaquen wouldn't scum have to know who the invention recipent was to redirect?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bus_Driver

Jaqen, who are your top four suspects right now?

A man is thinking Griffindor as hard as he can, but this tinfoil sorting hat sitting on a man's head is screaming Sonic, vezokpiraka, Aristophanes (all you people voting Mac really need to keep up with the changes), flubbernugget, and Nacho in no particular order outside the first.

************

With Cerberus having protection last night and Z dying, Sonic is confscum.

Protection? What?

[Marquis]

ftr whoever it was that said scum were killing for reads it's p obv that they've been inventor hunting
they need that weak cop gone
unless of course it's a scum Compulsive and/or Weak invent action itself but lol

[Wickedestjr]

Jaqen, who are your top four suspects right now?

A man is thinking Griffindor as hard as he can, but this tinfoil sorting hat sitting on a man's head is screaming Sonic, vezokpiraka, Aristophanes (all you people voting Mac really need to keep up with the changes), flubbernugget, and Nacho in no particular order outside the first.

What changed with regard to your Cerberus read?

[Antihero]

Thorium

A thorium atom has 90 protons and therefore 90 electrons, of which four are valence electrons. Thorium metal is silvery and tarnishes black when exposed to air. Thorium is weakly radioactive: all its known isotopes are unstable, with the six naturally occurring ones (thorium-227, 228, 230, 231, 232, and 234) having half-lives between 25.52 hours and 14.05 billion years. Thorium-232, which has 142 neutrons, is the most stable isotope of thorium and accounts for nearly all natural thorium, with the other five natural isotopes occurring only in traces: it decays very slowly through alpha decay to radium-228, starting a decay chain named the thorium series that ends at lead-208. Thorium is estimated to be about three to four times more abundant than uranium in the Earth's crust, and is chiefly refined from monazite sands as a by-product of extracting rare earth metals.

Vote Count 3.1

Aristophanes - 1 (Lying Cat)
Cerberus v666 - 1 (vezokpiraka)
Flubbernugget - 1 (T S O)
mastin2 - 2 (Shakira Confirmed, Sonic Boom)
Sonic Boom - 1 (Jaqen Hghar)
Wickedestjr - 1 (mastin2)

Not Voting: Aristophanes, Cerberus v666, Flubbernugget, ika, Kari, Nachomamma8, Wickedestjr

8 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2015-07-17 20:31:08)

[Jaqen Hghar]

Jaqen, who are your top four suspects right now?

A man is thinking Griffindor as hard as he can, but this tinfoil sorting hat sitting on a man's head is screaming Sonic, vezokpiraka, Aristophanes (all you people voting Mac really need to keep up with the changes), flubbernugget, and Nacho in no particular order outside the first.

What changed with regard to your Cerberus read?

That ones posting, way back on D1, is becoming better and a man is dropping that read like a month ago.

[Jaqen Hghar]

ftr whoever it was that said scum were killing for reads it's p obv that they've been inventor hunting
they need that weak cop gone
unless of course it's a scum Compulsive and/or Weak invent action itself but lol

And this one is chocking it up to coincidence both NK are being two a man is wrong about?