Inorganic Chemistry [GAME OVER, SCUM WIN]

[Lying Cat]

Jacky is channeling Wicked from that game.

Hey you went from crazytown to game solver in one phase. I have hopes that jqn can do the same.

I just see a parallel between his 'obviously there's a redirect because my scumreads are NEVAR WORNG' and your 'you cant clear people on role utility because maybe the mod doesn't give a shit about balance'

It's making me read him as town.

In post 2846, Lying Cat wrote:
Nacho, mastin, tso, titus, MS, wicked, vezok, flubber. How alignment indicative is it for me to be mean to someone who I think is being stupid?

It’s null as far as I’m concerned. I’ve seen it from you as town, but it’s also something simple that you’re aware of, so not really a town tell either.

Good answer.

[Wickedestjr]

Vote Count 3.3

Aristophanes - 3 (Nachomamma8, Shakira Confirmed, Flubbernugget)
Cerberus v666 - 2 (vezokpiraka, Sonic Boom)
ika - 2 (Wickedestjr, Lying Cat)
Sonic Boom - 1 (Jaqen Hghar)
Wickedestjr - 1 (mastin2)

Not Voting: Aristophanes, Cerberus v666, ika, Kari, T S O

This is the most dissatisfying vote count that I have seen in a long while.

I dislike the Aristo bandwagon. I had a strong gut feeling that Mac was town. The two points against that slot are (correct me if I'm wrong)
-Mac's page 5 bandwagon (with two confirmed townies on it) didn't take off... hmm maybe that's because it was based on page 5 logic
-Aristo is the one replacement that didn't really contribute anything... he's also the one replacement that promised to read, somehow this is more voteworthy than Kari

Seriously, if the wagon on Aristo stays/grows for

this

reasoning, my level of interest in the game is going to drop.

Then second on the list is Cerb's bandwagon, which shouldn't even exist given the weak cop plan. I think there's a reasonable chance that he's scum, but lynching him today is awful even if he's scum-slippingly suspicious. C'mon, even if he's scum, he has three partners which we can try to find. Cerb gets sorted tonight.

ika's wagon is too small. Not liking how he's been allowed to coast by.

Sonic Boom?

I explained everything that mastin had issue with, she doesn't have any good reason for suspecting me.

[Wickedestjr]

Unvote. Vote: Flubbernugget

First, he votes Jaqen for the exact same reasoning that I gave yesterday (which he didn’t feel the need to acknowledge at all when I first posted it).

Second, he says this;

I'm no longer reading jaqen's posts

Normally when i do that to someone they're town

which seems disingenuous. You only

just now

found his posts unreadable? Or is this how you justify your opportunistic swap to the Aristo bandwagon?

[Cerberus v666]

Wicked, that was an obvious typo. My vote has never been on that slot.

[Wickedestjr]

I was strongly town reading vezok, but I’m going to have to downgrade that to a neutral read. I don't like his recent posts.

VOTE: cerb

Is this you saying that the cop plan should end here, and we should lynch me to get a few conftowns, rather than investigating me to get a similar though not identical effect? If so, who would you investigate tonight if you receive the cop?

I think you are scum. If we investigate you tonight one of us dies and then we lynch you. I'm not okay with that. That's why I want you dead today.

We were discussing this plan all day yesterday. You only

just now

decide to argue with it?

That's fine for you to believe that(though if that were true, I'm pretty sure a 1 for 1 trade of town for scum is usually one town is happy) with but you're not the one who *just* voted me and who has been advising against lynching links in the chain.

I'm assuming there's some hydra dissonance going on there. Why do you think I'm scum again vezok? I'm sorry if it's somewhere in the thread, I'd ISO you and find it, but work is a thing.

Yeah. Work is a thing for me to. Go find it yourself.

I have trouble seeing this come from a townie that is trying to determine the alignment of the player that they’re voting. You took the time to make a case against him, why wouldn't you want to direct him to it?

No seriously. What kind of town person goes: "Oh, he made some points against me, but I'm too lazy to find them and respond to them."

So he’s scum because he’s not motivated to defend himself?

[Jaqen Hghar]

Very productive pages. I almost feel like nothing happened and we're just standing around.

Oh wait. That's what's happening.

Really? A man is laying a an easy to follow, highly plausible theory on scum's overall agenda...and...this one is thinking we're just standing around...frustration

The point that has been laid out to you in the past is that what you're focusing on is a fringe possibility that has a very small chance of being accurate, which is why your theories are being ignored and which is why the rest of the game feels it isn't moving.

I was really hoping Aristophanes could blink or something before replacing out, but apparently not? Not sure if this is where I want to keep my vote.

A man is just chocking it up to his brain working differently than most. Hopefully we can all come together in a day or so. Or, we could just lynch either of LC and SB to either prove a man is thinking wrong at which point he will stfu and auto pilot sheep whatever plan town is wanting to follow, or town is seeing a man is on to something and we lynch us some scumbutts.

i am actually down to lynch LC, strangely enough

VOTE: Lying Cat

[Jaqen Hghar]

A man should be getting Weak tonight. If he's right, town won't here from him again. Worst case scenario, a man is wrong and you have to put up with him another day.

[Wickedestjr]

Wicked, that was an obvious typo. My vote has never been on that slot.

Okay. Ftr, you said you were

gonna

vote that slot, but I see what you meant now...

[Cerberus v666]

Ah true. That would have been weird english though. Reasonable misunderstanding I suppose. So, now votes are going up on flubber and LC. Jaqen: You do realize if you don't let the town know who you're planning on investigating, we won't know who to lynch if you're right?

[Aristophanes]

Ah true. That would have been weird english though. Reasonable misunderstanding I suppose. So, now votes are going up on flubber and LC. Jaqen: You do realize if you don't let the town know who you're planning on investigating, we won't know who to lynch if you're right?

I was just gonna say this.
Did a quick Iso in case I missed it, but I can't see where you've said who you would investigate.

[mastin2]

I'm not sure what we're waiting for. Hip fucking lop flipped fucking town. Fuck

No

shit

he flipped town.

That's what you get for ignoring me and/or calling me scum for it.

Reason I said we could do things the mature adult way or the "You were wrong", "No you were wrong!" way.

The mature adult way is considering the options, which mind you I have been.

I'm not sure all four scum are in these four names. But I think that at least 3 are in {Wicked, Flubbernugget, Kari, ika, vezokpiraka}. You want me outside there, it's gonna take some very heavy convincing.

[ika]

who wants durnk iak

[mastin2]

I am willing to vote Kari, LC, or Flubber.

Well, 2/3 aint bad. (LC is town. Seriously, trust me. This is a beyond-hiplop level of read and I was right on hiplop.)

If we investigate you tonight one of us dies and then we lynch you. I'm not okay with that. That's why I want you dead today.

Hmm...this seems strangely familiar...

OH YEAH.

WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I WAS SAYING THIS?!?

(Yeah. Not lynching Cerb.)

[Flubbernugget]

Unvote. Vote: Flubbernugget

First, he votes Jaqen for the exact same reasoning that I gave yesterday (which he didn’t feel the need to acknowledge at all when I first posted it).

Second, he says this;

I'm no longer reading jaqen's posts

Normally when i do that to someone they're town

which seems disingenuous. You only

just now

found his posts unreadable? Or is this how you justify your opportunistic swap to the Aristo bandwagon?

Jaqen's posts are perfectly readable. they are just redundant. That was a very clever misrep though

I've ignored several of your posts by not wanting to wallpost and then just forgetting to do it. Why are you only bring it up now that you're ready to try and wagon me? (for the record a wagon on me has more vocal approval than before)

Also if I didn't acknowledge your posts and came to the same conclusion as you, doesn't that suggest I came to the same conclusions as you independently of you? (that's usually a town tell for the record)

In addition, as far as I can remember the "not reading posts of players that flipped town" has a sample size of two. That's not damning evidence, and saying I used it as an excuse to hop on a wagon that was forming on a scum read I had before my scum read on jaquen is absurd

[Flubbernugget]

Nacho, mastin, tso, titus, MS, wicked, vezok, flubber. How alignment indicative is it for me to be mean to someone who I think is being stupid?

Okay this whole "readfishing" thing you've been doing is sketchy

[Flubbernugget]

It's perfectly townie. I'm also doing it.

Some of your posts give me bad vibes though :/

You may wish to avoid the phrase 'stopping power' when shopping for sex toys in the future. Because any 'vibes' are originating in your pockets.

Okay so we're scolding any sense of a scum read on you

Errrr...........

[Flubbernugget]

In post 2846, Lying Cat wrote:
Nacho, mastin, tso, titus, MS, wicked, vezok, flubber. How alignment indicative is it for me to be mean to someone who I think is being stupid?

It’s null as far as I’m concerned. I’ve seen it from you as town, but it’s also something simple that you’re aware of, so not really a town tell either.

Good answer.

Um.....


Dude.

[Lying Cat]

speak english

[Jaqen Hghar]

Unvote. Vote: Flubbernugget

First, he votes Jaqen for the exact same reasoning that I gave yesterday (which he didn’t feel the need to acknowledge at all when I first posted it).

Second, he says this;

I'm no longer reading jaqen's posts

Normally when i do that to someone they're town

which seems disingenuous. You only

just now

found his posts unreadable? Or is this how you justify your opportunistic swap to the Aristo bandwagon?

Jaqen's posts are perfectly readable. they are just redundant. That was a very clever misrep though

I've ignored several of your posts by not wanting to wallpost and then just forgetting to do it. Why are you only bring it up now that you're ready to try and wagon me? (for the record a wagon on me has more vocal approval than before)

Also if I didn't acknowledge your posts and came to the same conclusion as you, doesn't that suggest I came to the same conclusions as you independently of you? (that's usually a town tell for the record)

In addition, as far as I can remember the "not reading posts of players that flipped town" has a sample size of two. That's not damning evidence, and saying I used it as an excuse to hop on a wagon that was forming on a scum read I had before my scum read on jaquen is absurd

How can a man not be redundant when so many are obfuscating their understanding to what he is saying. A man is compelled the to reword what is already said in hopes those ones are understanding something written in a more simple fashion.

[Jaqen Hghar]

Ah true. That would have been weird english though. Reasonable misunderstanding I suppose. So, now votes are going up on flubber and LC. Jaqen: You do realize if you don't let the town know who you're planning on investigating, we won't know who to lynch if you're right?

I was just gonna say this.
Did a quick Iso in case I missed it, but I can't see where you've said who you would investigate.

A man is saying already.

[Jaqen Hghar]

And choosing his words carefully when doing so...

[Lying Cat]

speak english

[Aristophanes]

You are pro-chain, yes? So Cerb?

[Aristophanes]

^ @Jaquen

[Lying Cat]

No he's planning on investigating me because he's a VI.

Not the

worst

fuckup, but not optimal either.