Inorganic Chemistry [GAME OVER, SCUM WIN]

[Nachomamma8]

hey nacho you got your aristo wagon why do you still feel bored with the game?

I'm not bored with the game, I've just been busy.

[Nachomamma8]

This is fucking awful.

Why is that?

[Cerberus v666]

Nacho, why Ari and Kari? Any reason beyond those given by everyone else?

[Cerberus v666]

Actually, more interestingly, why vezok?

[Nachomamma8]

Not really.

[Nachomamma8]

Actually, more interestingly, why vezok?

It's more town reads elsewhere than anything vezok has done.

[Lying Cat]

This is fucking awful.

Why is that?

Because ika is aware of the post count thing. And his spammy useless iso reads like he's forcing himself to post with frequency. When was the last post from him that had game relevant content?

I'm willing to back off for evidence or at the insistence of multiple townreads, but saying "postcount >9 .: scum" without reading them is pretty bad.

[Nachomamma8]

Because ika is aware of the post count thing. And his spammy useless iso reads like he's forcing himself to post with frequency. When was the last post from him that had game relevant content?

He's been aware of the meta for a while, hasn't yet changed it. My first thought is going to be that he's doing what he always done until there's contradicting evidence, which there hasn't been.

Spammy useless ISO reads is also pretty common Ika fare, not sure what your point is there.

Don't care when his last game relevant post was.

[Nachomamma8]

I'm willing to back off for evidence or at the insistence of multiple townreads, but saying "postcount >9 .: scum" without reading them is pretty bad.

I read them.
Good enough.

I don't see why following a very reliable indicator of a player's alignment is bad, tbh.

[Marquis]

busy with work, will be back tonight

[Lying Cat]

Spammy useless ISO reads is also pretty common Ika fare, not sure what your point is there.

TBH I avoid playing games with ika because he's a liability to whatever team he's on. But I have a finished game with him where he was town very recently and the change in tone is like night and day.

I've always been informed that ika lacks confidence and conviction as scum so he posts less. In that game, he was trying to work out reads and solve the game. All he's got in this game are prod dodges and petty arguments, which looks a lot like dodging and lack of conviction.

I'm using the same reliable indicator as you and getting a different result. Where am I wrong?

[Sonic Boom]

^this guy knows what's up

[Nachomamma8]

In that game, he was trying to work out reads and solve the game. All he's got in this game are prod dodges and petty arguments, which looks a lot like dodging and lack of conviction.

He tried to work out the game early via his interactions with Tere.

[Nachomamma8]

He tried to work out the game with Ank, Bins, gave multiple reads list, pushed reads, tried to figure things out. What you're missing is how lackluster Ika's scum game actually is: it is 14 posts in a full game, with 3 hammers, 7 prod dodges, and 4 posts that say "I'm not gonna read what I missed, just gonna go from here" or "what did I miss?"

[Sonic Boom]

Titus will comment on this

[Shakira Confirmed]

In "Kill all Townies" he lurked most of the game as town in that one too.
Him lurking is null at worst.
Ironically, Ika has more posts than Lying Cat.

[Nachomamma8]

In "Kill all Townies" he lurked most of the game as town in that one too.
Him lurking is null at worst.
Ironically, Ika has more posts than Lying Cat.

Him lurking isn't a perfect scum tell, no.
Him posting is a pretty fantastic town tell though!

[Antihero]

Ferrocene

Ferrocene was the first example of the now very large class of compounds unceremoniously known as sandwich compounds, and more formally as metallocenes. They share not the triangular shape of the classic English sandwich, but the characteristic of squeezing something between two flat objects, namely a metal ion, in the case of ferrocene the iron 2+ ion. The two flat objects are cyclopentadienyl ions, each with a single negative charge. These are not triangular, but shaped like regular pentagons, making a molecule of unusual symmetric beauty.

Ferrocene owes its unusual stability to the fact that when one proton is removed from the cyclopentadiene molecule, C₅H₆, it becomes the flat and aromatic cyclopentadienyl ion, C₅H₅^–. This means that apart from the ten electrons holding the ring together in five single carbon–carbon bonds, it has six extra electrons whooshing around above and below the pentagon. This is exactly the same situation as in the benzene molecule, the hexagonal C₆H₆, and the same explanation for its stability holds, partly due to the symmetric beauty I mentioned before. The similarity to benzene made chemists adopt the name ferrocene.

Vote Count 3.6

Aristophanes - 5 (Shakira Confirmed, Flubbernugget, T S O, Kari, Sonic Boom)
ika - 1 (Lying Cat)
Kari - 5 (Aristophanes, vezokpiraka, Nachomamma8, mastin2, Wickedestjr)
Lying Cat - 1 (Jaqen Hghar)

Not Voting: Cerberus v666, ika

8 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2015-07-17 20:31:08)

[Shakira Confirmed]

Ika has posted more in this game than every other one of his scumgames. He seems like a pretty stupid vote.

This is fucking awful.

Mastin, I wanna kick nacho out of the lodge. Please advise.

Lol. I can just picture this in the scum topic.

Mastin: Woah! Hey Bro. That's awesome we're scum together.
Cat: No way. That's awesome. We're going to win this.
Mastin: You want to do something crazy that will go down in the history books?!!
Cat: What???
Mastin: Let's blatantly buddy up to each other in a way so obvious and form a town bloc based off [redacted]. After that, we'll dominate the conversation and buddy the heck out of people who have similar reads to us, and attack the credibility of everyone who disagrees with our reads.
Cat: That's a good idea! I'll insult everyone who disagrees with us!
Mastin: Sure. I'll make up some shit that because they weren't nightkilled, none of their reads are good.
Cat: We'll have the exact same reads for sure. We're both such good players that it should work.

Mastin: Uh oh. Mac is getting some pressure. I'll tell him to make some vague post that can be interpreted as him having a power role and I'll go around saying he's 100% town!!! Remember, buddy everyone who agrees with us.
Cat: Shoot. Shakira and Sonic don't give a shit about your 100% town thing.
Mastin: Don't worry. I'll just scum read them for not instantly sheeping my reads.

etc.

[Flubbernugget]

That post is pretty lol

but didn't you say lc's insults were town?

[Flubbernugget]

nope nvmnd

[Jaqen Hghar]

Ika has posted more in this game than every other one of his scumgames. He seems like a pretty stupid vote.

This is fucking awful.

Mastin, I wanna kick nacho out of the lodge. Please advise.

Lol. I can just picture this in the scum topic.

Mastin: Woah! Hey Bro. That's awesome we're scum together.
Cat: No way. That's awesome. We're going to win this.
Mastin: You want to do something crazy that will go down in the history books?!!
Cat: What???
Mastin: Let's blatantly buddy up to each other in a way so obvious and form a town bloc based off [redacted]. After that, we'll dominate the conversation and buddy the heck out of people who have similar reads to us, and attack the credibility of everyone who disagrees with our reads.
Cat: That's a good idea! I'll insult everyone who disagrees with us!
Mastin: Sure. I'll make up some shit that because they weren't nightkilled, none of their reads are good.
Cat: We'll have the exact same reads for sure. We're both such good players that it should work.

Mastin: Uh oh. Mac is getting some pressure. I'll tell him to make some vague post that can be interpreted as him having a power role and I'll go around saying he's 100% town!!! Remember, buddy everyone who agrees with us.
Cat: Shoot. Shakira and Sonic don't give a shit about your 100% town thing.
Mastin: Don't worry. I'll just scum read them for not instantly sheeping my reads.

etc.

Move then?

[Kari]

gonna find my townlist. it was somewhere.

[Kari]

cant find it.

think they were nacho, sc, sb and tso

[Aristophanes]

cant find it.

think they were nacho, sc, sb and tso

So, the two almost-conf-towns are half of your townreads list? Not that I disagree, it just seems a little minimal in effort.
Nacho I also agree with, but TSO I keep forgetting is here. What strikes him as town to you?

What are your thoughts on Jaquen and LC?
What about the Mastin vs Wicked thing?

There are so many things going on in this game that you haven't touched on.

That said, reads to come.