Inorganic Chemistry [GAME OVER, SCUM WIN]

[Sonic Boom]

We are lynching Mastina, ika, Jaquen, TSO, Cerb or Ank. Pick in there.

~Titus

[PeregrineV]

^ I don't like that reaction.

Expand on that.

Lying Cat told you that Titus had tracked you to the kill. You immediately believed it and voted for Titus. That is exactly how you are supposed to react, as scum, but doesn't feel like a truly natural reaction if you're town.

OK.
Yet, I'm asking for information from people, and I get information that directly contradicts my information, and I should disbelieve it before believing it?

I have trouble believing that you didn't check the facts immediately before voting. From my experience, it's pretty rare for scum to claim a bad investigation result on town on a non-LyLo day. It's a lot more common for a player to lie to someone just to gauge their reaction (have you never seen that before?). That is one reason why I think you were too trusting, if town.

If it was true, then my vote was true. If, after fact checking (which I did via the last 100 posts of Sonic Boom), it was not true, then easy enough to unvote.
Which takes us back to why Lying Cat even bothered. It wasn't to reaction check because he had no reaction to my reaction.

Also, on the page you first posted, people were voting but nobody ever voted for you. You weren't even being talked about.

OK

The vote for Lying Cat is also weird. What scum motivation is there for Lying Cat to blatantly lie to you, if not testing you?

See above.
What would be the best "result" of the test of lying to a new player replacing in?
Not really sure why he lied about it, but that already makes him suspect, to me.

[Lying Cat]

One more time: WHO RECEIVED THE FUCKING COMMUTE?

[PeregrineV]

Do we know what the other two inventions are? I see one is commute.

All Weak cop receivers should be able to be checked via their ISOs. Knowing you might get one, you should investigate the person you found most suspicious that day, that way if you died it could be tracked.

[Lying Cat]

See above.
What would be the best "result" of the test of lying to a new player replacing in?
Not really sure why he lied about it, but that already makes him suspect, to me.

You say "oh shit I doc'd him that's why"

I didn't think it would work

but there's no risk at all.

[Lying Cat]

well not doc, but any obvious fakeclaim.

[Lying Cat]

like, if you scramble to justify targeting the NK, then you're probably the one who shot him.

obviously.

[Cerberus v666]

Do we know what the other two inventions are? I see one is commute.

All Weak cop receivers should be able to be checked via their ISOs. Knowing you might get one, you should investigate the person you found most suspicious that day, that way if you died it could be tracked.

There was a commute, which was received by...Lying Cat N1? And nachomamma N2? And nobody has claimed it yet for last night.

There WAS a weak cop, which was received by Sonic Boom and used to check Shakira Confirmed on N1(whose slot has since been replaced by St. Constantine), received by myself on N2 and used to check Sonic Boom, and then received by TSO on N3 and used to check Wicked. All checks have come back as town(obviously, since if they came back as anything else the person using the weak cop would have died.)

That inventor was Flubbernugget, who was killed last night.

There is a third invention, which was given to Shakira Confirmed on N1, he used it on Jaqen, then given to Shakira Confirmed again on N2, he used it on Lying Cat, and then given to Sonic Boom last night, and they have not said who they used it on.

The nature of this invention has not yet been revealed in the thread, and I am currently claiming to be the inventor of said invention.

I attempted to clear myself from scum suspicion as an inventor once I saw they had shot the cop by pretending I had received the invention, and used it on the person who i actually gave it to. This backfired when Sonic Boom immediately counterclaimed me, and forced me to choose to reveal that I was the inventor, rather than revealing the nature of the invention.

I think that's everything there is to say about the inventions so far.

We dont't know who the commute inventor is.

Oh. As far as the weak cop goes. The semi-plan that was being proposed and was followed by me was to use the weak cop to check the previous recipient of the invention, thus creating a chain of confirmed town slots, barring the intervention of redirection, or an interaction with godfather which would allow a weak cop to target a godfather and survive. This plan was only followed once, however, by myself, when I targeted Sonic Boom, so as of now said chain goes Cerb(undetermined)>>>Sonic Boom(Town)>>>St. Constantine(Town).

Also, if you want to ISO the St. Constantine slot, you'll need to ISO Shakira Confirmed(which was a hydra of Marquis and Fluminator), then Fluminator, because Marquis left the site apparently, and then St. Constantine.
I think THAT'S everything.

I don't think there's anything else to say about the current game state? We caught scum yesterday?

[T S O]

This is the worst fucking timing ever, but I'm V/LA sitewide for a week. I'd ask you not to lynch me, but without me here to call people out on bullshit, it seems likely it'll happen. If it does, you all suck.

[T S O]

Cerberus, you recently said that Nacho and I are the most likely to be scum on Aristo. Why is this?

[Cerberus v666]

Cerberus, you recently said that Nacho and I are the most likely to be scum on Aristo. Why is this?

My first thought was that there was probably 1 scum on aristos wagon. The pool of potentials was Kari, Jaqen, TSO, and Nacho. Jaqen hammered, so it seemed less likely it was him. Kari was the counterwagon, seemed less likely it was her. PoE left yourself and Nacho.

[Cerberus v666]

Although I will say it's really equally likely for either Jaqen and Nacho. If Jaqen actually just gladiated me, then Nacho goes back to being the more likely scum.

[Sonic Boom]

Metal Titus, can you please quit the fucking dick measuring? It's actually useless and anti-town, and you're making him post more.

One more time: WHO RECEIVED THE FUCKING COMMUTE?

It's just metal. Juuust metal.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

I received the commute invention

[Cerberus v666]

Well. That looks pretty fucking town now then. Hmm.

[Nachomamma8]

Cerberus, you recently said that Nacho and I are the most likely to be scum on Aristo. Why is this?

My first thought was that there was probably 1 scum on aristos wagon. The pool of potentials was Kari, Jaqen, TSO, and Nacho. Jaqen hammered, so it seemed less likely it was him. Kari was the counterwagon, seemed less likely it was her. PoE left yourself and Nacho.

It seems dumb not to look at individual play.
It additionally seems dumb to clear someone for hammering. Not that Jaqen isn't town as shit on his own merits, but, you know.

[Nachomamma8]

And also why on earth are you looking for scum on the Aristo wagon...?

[T S O]

It seems easier to look for scum -off- the Aristo wagon. Because we're not even mentioning the fact that you yourself are also on the Aristo wagon.

[T S O]

Vezok, Wicked, LC, ika, mastin.

Wicked is town. I think ika's town too. That leaves LC/mastin/vezok.

[Cerberus v666]

It seems easier to look for scum -off- the Aristo wagon. Because we're not even mentioning the fact that you yourself are also on the Aristo wagon.

Well, it's similar actually. There were 5 people iirc who weren't on the aristo wagon. there are 4 people who I don't consider 99% town ON the aristo wagon. it's 0-50% vs 0-60%, depending on the distribution of the scum between on the wagon and off the wagon.

[Cerberus v666]

Cerberus, you recently said that Nacho and I are the most likely to be scum on Aristo. Why is this?

My first thought was that there was probably 1 scum on aristos wagon. The pool of potentials was Kari, Jaqen, TSO, and Nacho. Jaqen hammered, so it seemed less likely it was him. Kari was the counterwagon, seemed less likely it was her. PoE left yourself and Nacho.

It seems dumb not to look at individual play.
It additionally seems dumb to clear someone for hammering. Not that Jaqen isn't town as shit on his own merits, but, you know.

Individual play wise, Jaqen is town as fuck, yes. Also part of why you'd be more likely scum than him. TSO and you are null to me at the moment.

[Cerberus v666]

Well, so is Kari, but Kari counterwagon makes Kari seem much less likely to be scum.

[T S O]

Why do you think that lynching me confirms Wicked?

[Cerberus v666]

Why do you think that lynching me confirms Wicked?

If it's a mislynch, then he's as confirmed as the rest of the people who have been investigated. He's town, barring redirection or weird godfather shenanigans. More likely to be town than them, actually. If you're scum, it's a null effect on his alignment, and we caught scum.

[T S O]

I don't feel that one dead town for one conftown is a particularly great trade-off for us.