Mini 1701 - Modified Werewolf 13er

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Pagetop reminder to vote Woody.

[absta101]

I'd say the most scummy thing about Woody is that all he has been doing is defending himself rather than trying to find scum.

[Zoronos]

Vinkah - BBT asked you earlier about your read on Haschel. You were waiting on a response from him, and he has since responded. Any thoughts?

[WoodyWoodpecker]

I'd say the most scummy thing about Woody is that all he has been doing is defending himself rather than trying to find scum.

It's early

[Bulbazoor]

Mkay. I have read the game and will have my thoughts posted.

[absta101]

I'd say the most scummy thing about Woody is that all he has been doing is defending himself rather than trying to find scum.

It's early

Not a great excuse; there's enough content and a lot of us have already started scum-hunting.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Well I don't particularly feel anything that's been posted for has given me a good reason to vote then right now. Granted I'm not reading that closely right now plus we have people who hasn't posted yet. The game just opened a couple hours ago, relax people its going to be a long 2 weeks

[absta101]

Alright good stuff.
VOTE: Woody

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Ok, off to play more swordigo now

[WoodyWoodpecker]

The game just opened a couple hours ago, relax people its going to be a long 2 weeks

[Bulbazoor]

I am starting at page one. I do not know what cedric meant tbh with that statement. The rest of the page one was rvs and early game.

Then we get to page two. From page one vinkah asked a very suspicious question. I want to know why he was asking whether the vote was serious and I usually do not approve of early questions like that. Zor.... of course you have no leans either way because no one has yet posted anything alignment indicative at the time. Decent wagon? If we get a wagon, we run the risk of a quickhammer. Unless we use the wagon for associatives and reactions, it will not get us anywhere. Think about lack of information that might result from a quickwagon. 34 and 36 cause me to get a slight townlean on vink for the reason that I doubt scum him would say that or even attempt it. 39 gives keynsoke town points due to me thinking that he would not say that as scum either. People are discrediting keyser questions afterwards. I think they helped that time because it helps to know who those players can use meta to figure out. Cedric is being confusing on page two. Why did your vote on hikmbecome serious keyser?

Page three is a good one to read. BBT questions woody on his thoughts on the hersch wagon. Note that cedric is same person as hersch. I agree that he needs more votes, at that stage anyways. BBT asks woody why he did not join earlier. Woody, how did you just not notice a wagon when you were posting before that? BBT critiques woodpecker for not paying attention to the wagon that forms. Woody explains it. Keyser makes a good point by questioning the indication that a person not paying attention leaves. I wonder what made woody join the wagon so fast.. more not paying attetion from woody on the same page for the next three posts. Zoronos asks why hasch who is hersch votes me with him tellingmke to explain. Why do you encourage people to vote woody? The post 70 is a useless question. Wooody responds with a useless filler response. Zoro asks why hasch votes me then shrugs it off as joke?

Page four is next. Hasch moves on as he sees he is not getting a response from me. Woody acts strange and then comes up with defenses for himself. BBT sheeps an observation and seems arrogant in the first post he makes on page four. Absta states his weak townreads. I do not get why hasch wants key or bbt. Both are townreads for me so far. BBT questions absta and asks for thoughts on woody 97 by woody is sketchy because he states that meta is not used for alignment verification but then states that you can read his games to read him? Also, you state that playstyle is not alignment indicative, but you say that it can be uses to determine alignment? I agree with absta inmpost 98.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

woody is sketchy because he states that meta is not used for alignment verification but then states that you can read his games to read him?

That's not what I said at all. I said you can probably read games to see examples of me reading backwards and me reading backwards isn't an alignment tell. It's actually how I play.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Have you got examples of you reading a game backwards?

[Bulbazoor]

Page five. Keyser notes what I thought was fishy. Afterwards zor votes without any solid thing to back it up. BBT continues to question the lack of reading shown by woody. Haschel basically omgus on keyser for apparently attacking woody, who I scumread, 110 is weird for one. Why would you not read back. It is page five, so you have to read back to get reads. Or are you fabricating them? The next few posts are arguing going on between the two fighter BBT and woody. Again, post 114 by key is solid basic town process of thought. BBT is somewhat arrogant, lessening my town read on him. Why is he so confident in his reads? 119 is not actual defending. The next three posts are town. Starting to agree that bbt may be scum and he seems forced. Absta is wrong about the questions and tgeir answers. It is actually not as alignment indicative for the reason of it being that scum can also filler and town can lurk. 124

If its one, it is probably blue. Nothing he's attacking me for is remotely scummy and certainly not alignment indicative. Now clearly he doesn't know me and probably thinks I'm an easy target but he's wrong about that. I can defend myself all day and I love to argue.

That said I don't really think blue is scum and that's all I'll say about blue cause I want to keep things civil.

Absta is pinging me a little but I don't have any strong reads yet. It's a shame blue blew up the Herschel wagon before we could get some good reactions out of it.

This is bad. First you say bbt is scum then you say he isn't? Why does ab ping you? Of course you woukd say it is blue, after all key said it was you or him.
VOTE: woody

[absta101]

@Bulb

34 and 36 cause me to get a slight townlean on vink for the reason that I doubt scum him would say that or even attempt it. 39 gives keynsoke town points due to me thinking that he would not say that as scum either.

Can you elaborate on this, i.e. why wouldn't they say these things as scum?

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Have you got examples of you reading a game backwards?

I'm sure every single one of them. I'm on a phone now so I can't cite examples but feel free to look through them

[Bulbazoor]

Vinkah- I do not see him as a player that would want to analyze a player by one post. If he did so, it would only probably be to gus his partner. He shows intent to scumhunt, which only a pro scum would do. The posts also do not seem faked.

Key- Again, only scum that is a pro would generally fake a post like this. I wonder if scum key would even be active at all. I also mostly tkwnread him for meta reasons.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

This is bad. First you say bbt is scum then you say he isn't? Why does ab ping you? Of course you woukd say it is blue, after all key said it was you or him.

I didn't say he was scum

[Bulbazoor]

If its one, it is probably blue. Nothing he's attacking me for is remotely scummy and certainly not alignment indicative. Now clearly he doesn't know me and probably thinks I'm an easy target but he's wrong about that. I can defend myself all day and I love to argue.

That said I don't really think blue is scum and that's all I'll say about blue cause I want to keep things civil.

Absta is pinging me a little but I don't have any strong reads yet. It's a shame blue blew up the Herschel wagon before we could get some good reactions out of it.

[Kmd4390]

Hmm. 5 pages already. Well, Page 1 I could vote absta, vinkah, or Zoro. I feel like absta should realize what haschel is doing, but this is the weakest of the three. Vinkah's Woody vote sucks and the discussion about how serious keyser is being is awkward. Zoro just made a one liner post to state the obvious without voting anyone or contributing anything.

Zoro looks better when he starts talking and I agree about keyser looking town.

Redff, yeah I'm not even trying to read Mod posts. Hurts my eyes too much. When important stuff happens (vote counts, flips, etc) I'll probably just highlight it all to read it.

Keyser, I've played with Haschel, absta ,redcoyote, tonymontana, bulb, BBT, and maybe redff I think

Hmm. Another bad vote on Woody by BBT. I don't see what is so unreasonable about missing things. Maybe it's because I play from my phone too (I have a laptop but haven't used it much and it stopped working a couple months ago lol), but it makes perfect sense to me. Not wanting to read back is crazy though. I feel like if you are missing important context, you're kind of lost. I still think he's town, but that's playing suboptimally. Post 86 is also a terrible attitude and kind of upsets me as a player in this game. You are supposed to play to win, not shrug off your lynch as "oh well, I have other games". You better not be town with that attitude.

Absta, why do you think only town can be active?

BBT, read your posts over again. Tell me you think they make sense. You think that Woody was so worried about commenting on Haschel that he is straight up LYING about not seeing it? Come on. On Page 2? Really? What scum resorts to lying like that on Page 2?

Let's go with:

Vote BBT

He's tunneling on bad reasoning that I don't think he honestly believes.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

if

its one, it is probably blue

[Bulbazoor]

I am also wondering why absta thinks that way.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

I'm saying IF there's 1 scum between us like he said, it would be him. He said 1 or none.

Learn to read please

[Bulbazoor]

You do not think he is scum for attacking you with weak and bad reasons?

[absta101]

@Kmd

- I don't think that only town can be active, I just think it's way harder for scum to actively scumhunt and therefore you are less likely to see them be actively scum-hunting.