Mini 1701 - Modified Werewolf 13er

[Zoronos]

I summon Banakai!

Banakai - How do you feel are currently scum, and why?

[Bulbazoor]

UNVOTE:

[Bulbazoor]

I do not feel content joining the absta wagon but I do not want to rush this too much. I will be keeping my eyes on woody though.

[absta101]

@zoro - I think you are in some confirmation bias now... Wtf was your latest point?
I just added what else stood out to me about Keyser, he's still a town read but i'm not (and wasn't) sure about anyone.

[absta101]

Like I have the same situation with you. I think you are town but the way you are investigating me isn't town-like. Instead of asking me more questions or talking to me directly you are bringing up things about me and trying to convince everyone else that I am scum. This suggests that you aren't really interested in what I(your scum read) have to say.

[Banakai]

I summon Banakai!

Banakai - How do you feel are currently scum, and why?

Well I used to believe Woody, but I'm starting to think hes just really bad at playing town. A scum would usually change his playstyle after being called out on it repeatedly but woody keeps being an idiot. I'm not totally against his wagon. Best case scenario he is a werewolf (not out of the picture), worst case he is a towny who wasn't helping anyway.

I'm a little lost on this one actually. The werewolf is probbably not posted enough comments to get noticed by me or has yet to give me a clue. Which brings me to this question:

Also red ff is town

Because his posts are a towns posts.

Please can I have added quote-thought-process analysis on this statement. I am not satisfied with your reasons.

As for red ff, I just liked his posts, but he posted some questionable things now

#168 is a little meh but I shouldnt talk as I pretty much did the same thing
#176 was probbably his best post, both a good question and observation about scum in rvs
#181 is a little forced
#187 is a very good question
#203 kinda concerns me with its tone though

1) What is your current read on redFF?

2) What was it about his early posts that made you announce "red ff is town" in the thread? Please could you quote the posts that made you have such an early strong town read on him.

I'd say #176 and #187 were really good. I'd still like to see the answer for #176 (unless I missed it when I was playing sordingo). #187 was just a good job noticing a person contradicting themselves and a good way to ask it.

However his recent posts have got me leaning scum now, it seems like he got lazy as scum and stopped looking town.

[Keyser Söze]

[When I read Bulbazoor's posts I always take a step back and look at the reads each post expresses, instead of focusing on the emotion he is expressing.]

Summary on Bulbazoor's focus:

Post #135
Town-read: Vinkah, Keyser Söze, BlueBloodedToffee

Post #138
Town-read: Keyser Söze
Scum-read: WoodyWoodpecker, BlueBloodedToffee
Votes: WoodyWoodpecker

Post #141
Town-read: Vinkah, Keyser Söze

Post #172
Town-read: BlueBloodedToffee, Kmd4390, Keyser Söze
Scum-read: WoodyWoodpecker

Post #254
Scum-read: WoodyWoodpecker

Post #267
Scum-read: BlueBloodedToffee

Post #283
Town-read: absta101

Post #288
Town-read: Zoronos

Thoughts

Bulbazoor has scum-read WoodyWoodpecker very early, and has voted for his scum-read (consistency). His read on BlueBloodedToffee has been mixed (interestingly he is yet to vote for BlueBloodedToffee). Bulbazoor was "not content" joining the absta101 wagon - this is consistent with his read on absta101:

"Absta is ww or town. Instead of the latter, I believe him to he town because of the linez of thinking he posts. The conversation with kmd was fishy but It does not prove his alignment to be scum."

I believe he is yet to express strong scum reads other than on WoodyWoodpecker and BlueBloodedToffee.

I have a town-lean read on Bulbazoor so far.

[Zoronos]

@zoro - I think you are in some confirmation bias now... Wtf was your latest point?
I just added what else stood out to me about Keyser, he's still a town read but i'm not (and wasn't) sure about anyone.

Hmmm... it's possible I am conf biasing a tad.
My point was that you were appeasing the accuser; telling me what you thought I wanted to hear in order to deflect suspicion.

Who do you feel is scum, and can you explain why?

[Zoronos]

I'd say #176 and #187 were really good. I'd still like to see the answer for #176 (unless I missed it when I was playing sordingo). #187 was just a good job noticing a person contradicting themselves and a good way to ask it.

However his recent posts have got me leaning scum now, it seems like he got lazy as scum and stopped looking town.

I really disliked 187 tbh. The act of defending oneself is very alignment-neutral. "Why are you defending yourself" is trivial to find a town motivation for - because town loses if we mislynch too many times. I'm inherently suspicious of anyone that thinks that defending is scummy. It's an easy argument to ratchet pressure on a lynch target.

[absta101]

@zoro

Who do you feel is scum, and can you explain why?

Right now my only scum read is Woody due to his lack of scum-hunting. He could be an anti-town player but for now he is my top scum read.

I'm looking into RC but I need him to talk more first, I don't like his first post at all.

[Banakai]

what part of his first post dont you like

[Keyser Söze]

At any rate,

Unvote

. I want to vote for somebody else, but

it's so hard to decide between Keyser and BlueBloodedToffee!

Have you made your mind up yet?

[absta101]

@Banaki

what part of his first post dont you like

All of it. The first half of his post is just some shit about nothing and then he starts talking about what he likes and what he doesn't like. Also, his attack on Woody doesn't feel genuine. Instead of just purely commenting on what Woody has posted, he reconstructs the quote to show Woody in a suspicious light.

I dislike WW's 124. Very back and forth on BBT in an insincere way. I get this impression that he's like,

"oh, I think BBT is town, but if other people think he is scum... here is why he could be and I'll let y'all do the dirty work "

[Keyser Söze]

ne1 who joined this site after me is a massive newb + scrub tbh

Who? What? When? Where? How? And Why?

[Keyser Söze]

VOTE: Vinkah

This slot feels so uncomfortably awkward. I would use the adjective '

detached

'. Time for pressure.

[Keyser Söze]

RedCoyote

(1 post) Null Read.

Change of read: Scum-lean. The more times I read Post #152, the worse it gets.

[redFF]

vote:vinkah

this is something i can get behind for real

[Banakai]

VOTE: red ff ya I know I called him town

[Bulbazoor]

What is the reasoning for the switch?

[Bulbazoor]

Is a lazy player indicative?

[redFF]

VOTE: red ff ya I know I called him town

y

[Banakai]

Maybe lazy wasn't the right word but mist of his posts are bandwagons/obvious things/low effort, especially recent ones. And his tone is just kind of suspicious

[Shinobi]

Boonskiies replaces Vinkah.

[Boonskiies]

Yo, whattup homies. Boon is in the hizzouse.

[Boonskiies]

Lookie here, it's my main man, THE BEE BEE TEE.