Mini 1701 - Modified Werewolf 13er

[Boonskiies]

Unsure if I want to vote for Absta or Keyser, but that's where I'm headed at the moment.

[Boonskiies]

I didn't like Absta's response to some of the questions against her a few pages ago, and something just feels off about Keyser (no, it's not the vote on my slot either, because I am town reading the other two that voted.)

[Boonskiies]

@Kmd

I agree with the second statement. But it doesn't explain the first.
Absta- "scum wouldn't be that active"
Me-"why"
Absta-"scum wouldn't scum hunt"

It doesn't flow the right way. He didn't answer the question. He made a new statement.

Unvote, Vote Absta

I actually feel better about this than BBT.

This doesn't work; I already clarified what I meant by being active in post 123 which was

before

you asked me this question.
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@Keyser

If you think I am town, aren't you interested in my reads?
If you think I am scum, aren't you interested in my reads?

I am interested in your scum reads mainly. I just don't think we should spend as much time making cases for why someone is town at this stage of the game.

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I'm quite suspicious of RC at the moment and I want to see more from him.

@RedCoyote

- Why is KS possible scum?

Why is HC town?

I'm most interested in this post, specifically the sections I bolded. I don't like how he doesn't care about town reading people right now, and how he is completely abstaining from the idea of anyone giving out town reads, Speaking of abstaining, I can see it from a town perspective, I just don't like it, so I don't really care to put my vote there because there's already 2 votes.

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: Vinkah

This slot feels so uncomfortably awkward. I would use the adjective '

detached

'. Time for pressure.

This just made me actually not scum read the slot anymore. I was doing quick skimming to catch up, and didn't see 'Time for pressure'. Welp, rereading.

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: red ff ya I know I called him town

OH! I thought this was a vote on Vink! Hmm, I actually get this vote.

[Boonskiies]

BOONSKIIES COLOR TIER LIST OF SCUM

Banzai guy

Keyser guy

Absta guy

I'll add other things to it later.

[Boonskiies]

Actually, I don't like [url=http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p7088010]292[/url, or a couple of his posts above.

VOTE: Keyser

Something's off. He's putting a lot of 'pressure' related motives going through, but it looks like scum pushing for something until something sticks.

[Boonskiies]

292 is where I meant...

[redFF]

sup vinkah's replacement

like these posts UNVOTE:

[redFF]

vote:woodywoodpecker

[BlueBloodedToffee]

257 - Banakai, can you explain which posts made you so sure that Redff is town in 195?

268 - Redff, why did you have such a problem with this post?

Vote Count

WoodyWoodpecker

(3):

BlueBloodedToffee, absta101, Bulbazoor

absta101

(2):

Zoronos, Kmd4390

Bulbazoor

(1):

WoodyWoodpecker

Kmd4390

(1):

Tony Montana

Not Voting

(6):

Banakai, RedCoyote, Haschel Cedricson, redFF, Vinkah, Keyser Söze

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-07 13:30:00)

There are far too many people not voting in this VC.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

UNVOTE:

I do not feel content joining the absta wagon but I do not want to rush this too much. I will be keeping my eyes on woody though.

If you are keeping your eye on Woody, why are you unvoting him?

The werewolf is probbably not posted enough comments to get noticed

This is something I have been thinking about.

I really disliked 187 tbh. The act of defending oneself is very alignment-neutral. "Why are you defending yourself" is trivial to find a town motivation for - because town loses if we mislynch too many times. I'm inherently suspicious of anyone that thinks that defending is scummy. It's an easy argument to ratchet pressure on a lynch target.

I usually also think in this way regarding being defensive. However, 187 is a good post because it points out how Woody's actions and words do not much up. It's not just about him defending himself (which is not scummy) it's the 'Hell, I don't even care about this game, lynch me, I really don't care' attitude followed by 50 posts (exaggeration) of him defending himself. Those two actions do not line up.

Maybe lazy wasn't the right word but mist of his posts are bandwagons/obvious things/low effort, especially recent ones. And his tone is just kind of suspicious

Can you elaborate on this, which posts in particular do you have a problem with?

Lookie here, it's my main man, THE BEE BEE TEE.

Hiiiii Boon, you town?

BOONSKIIES COLOR TIER LIST OF SCUM

Banzai guy

Keyser guy

Absta guy

Just want clarification on this list. I'm guessing it's Banzai town, Keyser null and Absta scum?

VOTE: Keyser

Something's off. He's putting a lot of 'pressure' related motives going through, but it looks like scum pushing for something until something sticks.

I actually quite like 292, I don't see your problem with it.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

With that said, RC is being eerily quiet and it's making me nervous.

VOTE: RC

[Boonskiies]

Oh, blue is null, pink is null lean scum. Haha, I'll put a color key in next time.

Something just feels off to me about Keyser, and I can't explain it. When I can, I'll be sure to make a case.

[Boonskiies]

Also, yeah. I'm the town, BB.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

OK, I'm hoping you can do better than gut soon because we're on page 14 already and I would like to have achieved a lynch in roughly the next 6-8 pages.

Can I get your thoughts on Woody and RC?

[Boonskiies]

Town

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Lean Town

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Null Town

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Null Scum

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Lean Scum

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Scum

Boonskiies
BlueBloodedToffee
Banakai
redFF

WoodyWoodpecker

TonyMontana
RedCoyote
Zoronos
Haschel Cedricson

Kmd4390

Bulbazoor
absta101

Keyser Söze

I think this is where I am right now.

The reason BBT is top of the list is because in my experience, I find myself better off just town reading him until I figure out if he's scum. It just makes everything less confusing.

I'm seeing Woody's normal playstyle. I get why there's a wagon on him because of that. I'm going to lean-town on this because I don't really know how to read him.

I have a lot of nulls.

Bulb's being weird...somethings off there.

Absta/Keyser are my main scum reads, but I don't think they are scum together. I do believe one of them is scum, though.

[Boonskiies]

I'll look deeper into their ISO's right now, BBT.

[Boonskiies]

RedCoyote's lurking out this one it seems. No wonder I didn't remember anything about him. He has 1 post. This actually does make me a little suspicious of him, especially considering how Keyser wanted to put pressure on Vinkah for not being attached to the game. I am unsure as to why he didn't want to pressure RC.

[Boonskiies]

It's actually pretty damning to them if one of them do indeed flip scum.

[Boonskiies]

Woody looks how he always does. He has an inherently scum seeming playstyle that I'm somewhat learning to read.

[Keyser Söze]

Boonskiies replaces Vinkah.

This just adds to this slot's uncomfortable/awkwardness/detachment. To ask to be replaced out without even announcing it in the thread. I don't think he was even due a prod.

BOONSKIIES COLOR TIER LIST OF SCUM

Banzai guy

Keyser guy

Absta guy

I'll add other things to it later.

Don't use the mod's colour, otherwise this slot will be needing replacing yet again

Actually, I don't like 292[/url, or a couple of his posts above.

VOTE: Keyser

Something's off. He's putting a lot of 'pressure' related motives going through, but it looks like scum pushing for something until something sticks.

[quote="In [url=http://www.mafiascum. ... 9]post 338, Boonskiies"]Oh, blue is null, pink is null lean scum. Haha, I'll put a color key in next time.

Something just feels off to me about Keyser, and I can't explain it. When I can, I'll be sure to make a case.[/quote]
Why is it my pressure (scum hunting) that you associate with scum, and not other player's slots? Is it my attention on a particular slot?

[Boonskiies]

I don't believe he has any completed scum games, so I don't think I have anything to compare it to, but this is similar to what I've seen of him.

[Boonskiies]

Why is it my pressure (scum hunting) that you associate with scum, and not other player's slots? Is it my attention on a particular slot?

Why Vinkah and not RC?

[Boonskiies]

Don't use the mod's colour, otherwise this slot will be needing replacing yet again

Also, oops. I'll make my town black next time. I actually don't like this. Needing replacement? Trying to get me replaced because I'm onto you? Eh?