STEVEN UNIVERSE MAFIA - GAME OVER

[Varsoon]

"Steven and the Crystal Gems, we're gonna make you smile
I accidentally created an alternate timeline~
Steven and the Crystal Gems, come on, now, don't be shy
I learned to stay true to myself by watching myself die...

-Steven

Steven and the Stevens

VOTECOUNT 2.15

Replace in (6):

farside22, Trench Warfare, Vezokpiraka, Vezokpiraka, Ricastle, St Constantine the Hermit

St Constantine the Hermit (5):

MaxwellPuckett, Skybird, Thefuzzylogic99, Replace in, Sonic X

Sonic X (2):

fro99er, CooLDoG

Fro99er (1):

grapes

Thefuzzylogic99 (1):

Bookitty

Ricastle (1):

Reasonably Rational

Not Voting (2):

NicCage, Mastin2

With 17 Alive, it takes 9 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2015-07-30 07:20:00)

[Ricastle]

2 days. Let's lynch Replace In.

[MaxwellPuckett]

Honestly, like I want them both to go down. Now they're just jumping onto each other because it's the only avenue they have left.

I don't know how good the possibility of both of them being scum is, though. Like I said, the only avenue they have left.. it looks like both of them are going for survival here, and there were better lynch options than each other, at least I think so. Someone wanna weigh in on that?

[Ricastle]

Do you think survivalism is typically a town trait?

[Skybird]

I think it's null.

[mastin2]

Mastina do you get your vote back tomorrow? Help me with it.

No, I'm voteless the whole. freakin'. time.

It's presumably to help counterbalance the power of the conftown-on-D3 bit in my role. (I'd claim, but I'd rather keep the scum guessing. I'll be conftown tomorrow; the method matters just enough that I'm keeping a tight lip on it.)

I don't really like either the replace or hermit wagons, which really sucks because that's all we've got going on today.

You could always vote for Fro99er! That's what I'd heavily encourage. That, or Fuzzy; one of the two. (Preferably Frogger.)

Like, I know it won't count and is merely symbolic, but once again to emphasize,
VOTE: Fro99er.

[mastin2]

Honestly, like I want them both to go down. Now they're just jumping onto each other because it's the only avenue they have left.
I don't know how good the possibility of both of them being scum is, though. Like I said, the only avenue they have left.. it looks like both of them are going for survival here, and there were better lynch options than each other, at least I think so. Someone wanna weigh in on that?

Maxwell's scum, btw. Justsayin'.

[mastin2]

Btw, readslist:

Trench Warfare
Sonic X
farside22
Ricastle
St Constantine the Hermit/Bins
Reasonably Rational

vezokpiraka
grapes
Bookitty/Fluminator
Skybird

NicCage
Replace in/radmann9

MaxwellPuckett
CooLDoG
Thefuzzylogic99
fro99er/Ra9in9 Bull


Something like this, with a note that from vezok down to Replace In is null for various reasons and thus very, very, VERY flexible in order. Top/bottom are obviously town/scum though.

[mastin2]

Also, I'd like to point out that Cheetory6 the dead-via-nightkill player suspected Ra9in9 Bull.

Yeah, mason and whatnot, but I feel like I owe Cheet the benefit of NKed-for-reads, not role. ("But, mason! Obviously dead for that!" Probably, sure, yeah, but not necessarily. I was a mason in Antihero's game and had perfect reads and THAT, not my status as a mason, got me killed. I had good reads in a Xeno game I believe it was, and it was THAT, not my role as a mason, that got me nightkilled. Thus, why I feel I owe Cheet the benefit of the doubt.)

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Mastin
Can you explain why Hermit is town... what about his actions so far makes him so much town that he is high on your list????

I am still claiming Potato bc I can

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I mean I can see maybe a null read but really town.... he has not done anything townie all day. To me his action are scummy as anything.

[MaxwellPuckett]

I don't think survivalism is a town trait, but town can be survivalists just the same. The fact that going after the other wagon is what they both decided to do is what I noticed. Instead of Frogger, sonic, or NicCage, they each jumped on each other, which makes me unsure about both being scum.

And yeah I agree with fuzzy here. Mastin is your Constantine townread the same as Rational's? As in, scum has no reason to do this thing (town doesn't either), so it probably isn't scum?

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Survalism is null in my opinion however to me however Hermit actions goes into scumminess,

For example if he was like I am town , I don't want to get lynched and the only option I have is to vote player x than I might consider him just to survive, He was two votes behind RI and he ws under no real threat to be lynched. No body but me was really looking at him. No his action seems very much like wanting to mislynch town. If Hermit flips town somehow and you want to lynch me tomorrow finne.... but I am sure Hermit is scum

[mastin2]

Can you explain why Hermit is town... what about his actions so far makes him so much town that he is high on your list????

Because I REALLY don't see the scum in there and see a fair amount of town.

Maybe that's because I'm outside the neighborhood, but I call it as I see it.

...Also, his wagon sucks.

IMastin is your Constantine townread the same as Rational's?

Partially

. The towncase made about them (forget which hydra in the neighborhood made it) contributed to my townread, but was not the soul basis of it.

Btw, of the wagons, the Constantine wagon sucks more. (The ONLY town name on there is Sonic X.) But I really do think they're both on town.

[mastin2]

Speaking of VCs, though...

Ra9in9 Bull (4):

Beer, grapes, Trench Warfare, Ricastle

3/4 of these are basically conftown right now, with only grapes in question--I'd say that's a pretty solid wagon, no?

Reasonably Rational (5):

vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, grapes, Bins, MaxwellPuckett

Thefuzzylogic99 (4):

Sonic X, grapes, Skybird, Marquis

Fuzzy's alignment is difficult to gauge, but the wagon there looks at least potentially promising for being town, thus on scum. In contrast, the most-town name on the RR wagon is the Constantine slot...which really says something. In particular, Maxwell stands out.

Thefuzzylogic99 (5):

Sonic X, grapes, Skybird, Marquis, Cheetory6

Reasonably Rational (4):

vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, grapes, Bins

radmann9 (4):

TunnelWarriors, Ricastle, Trench Warfare, MaxwellPuckett

The fuzzy wagon continues to be good, and I do admit there is promise behind the Replace-in wagon slot.

Replace in (7):

TunnelWarriors, Ricastle, Trench Warfare, MaxwellPuckett, Marquis, Thefuzzylogic99, CooLDoG

Thefuzzylogic99 (4):

Sonic X, grapes, Skybird, Cheetory6

Reasonably Rational (4):

vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, grapes, Bins

It peaked here, but I have mixed feelings. It's basically comprised of all the top townreads AND the top scumreads I have.

So I don't know what to think about it. It's possible to be scum, I will admit, I just don't feel it is.

Beer (9):

Replace in, NicCage, Fluminator, Marquis, vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, Skybird, Ricastle, Sonic X

Replace in (3):

TunnelWarriors, MaxwellPuckett, CooLDoG

Thefuzzylogic99 (2):

grapes, Cheetory6

Reasonably Rational (2):

grapes, Bins

Ra9in9 Bull (2):

Beer, Trench Warfare

I skipped a few VCs, but this is where the Beer wagon really dominates the game.

Beer (10):

Replace in, NicCage, Fluminator, Marquis, vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, Skybird, Sonic X, Bins, grapes

Ra9in9 Bull (4):

Beer, Trench Warfare, Ricastle, Cheetory6

Replace in (3):

TunnelWarriors, MaxwellPuckett, CooLDoG

Interestingly, Raging Bull formed as a counterwagon to Beer, rather than the other way around, but that makes sense: Beer was town, and look at the names on the Raging Bull wagon: Conftown by flip, conftown by my word, conftown by derpvig, and conftown by flip. So it makes complete sense, and makes Raging Bull, AKA Fro99er, look a LOT more like scum.

As for the Beer wagon: I'm probably wrong on some of my scumreads, since I kinda doubt an all-town wagon exists, thus there's gonna be some scum in my nulls. But while the VC suggests that my scumreads aren't going to be entirely accurate...I still think that regardless, they're a good starting point.

IF NO OTHER READ OF MINE IS VALID, the takeaway from this should be that Fro99er is scum,though. Like, I'd discard my Cooldog, Fuzzy, and maaaaaaaaaaaaayybe Maxwell scumreads in a heartbeat because they're basically just my gut reactions to their posting, but Frogger? Frogger is scum in every way you can catch scum. And I would really. REALLY. prefer we lynch him over Constantine and Replace-in.

I'll take the flak for being wrong if either of Constantine or Replace-in are scum. But I want people to trust me on this about Frogger.

[mastin2]

Like.

I kinda want to invoke the Sabotage-Cephrir call.
Or, alternatively, the Signs and Void-DV/4nxi3ty call.

By which, I mean, the scumread of scumreads, THE read I will latch onto ABOVE ALL OTHERS.

[mastin2]

And beg to have it be pushed through.

Do I need to get on my knees and give you puppy-eyes?
(Or would you prefer the more ragey, shouty approach?)

[mastin2]

Sonic:

You're right! Frogger is scum! Please come help me in my crusade by lynching him. Be my vote along-side my voice. I need your support to do it.

Titus:

(I'm presuming it was the Titus head that voted Ra9in9 Bull, via ika) You voted for Frogger; what changed your mind?

Ricastle:

Same question to you.

Grapes:

You had an early Frogger vote; would you be willing to join a resurgence in the wagon?

[mastin2]

Constantine:

If I continue to provide for your safety and dismantle your wagon, can you come help me with a Frogger wagon rather than Replace-in?

[mastin2]

...And for that matter,

Replace-in:

Come with me if you want to live.
Vote Frogger, not Constantine.

[mastin2]

NicCage:

Why aren't you voting?

Bookitty:

I know you just came into the game, but if you think this is the sort of game where I'm ~onto~ something (like I was our last two games, albeit me messing up in the end during the first one), then please trust me and vote for Frogger.

[mastin2]

If I got all of the above to vote, that would be 8/9 needed. (AHG, NOT HAVING A VOTE MYSELF

SUCKS

SO BAD!)
And I'm sure that someone I didn't name would be willing to hammer a wagon that gained that much momentum.

Come on, we can do it, you just have to ~believe~.

[Sonic X]

Sonic:

You're right! Frogger is scum! Please come help me in my crusade by lynching him. Be my vote along-side my voice. I need your support to do it.

Titus:

(I'm presuming it was the Titus head that voted Ra9in9 Bull, via ika) You voted for Frogger; what changed your mind?

Ricastle:

Same question to you.

Grapes:

You had an early Frogger vote; would you be willing to join a resurgence in the wagon?

Of course I'm right. Those fucklords don't want to move.

VOTE: frogger

[mastin2]

Leave the moving to me.
What I lack in vote I make up in voice.

Cooldog:

I realize you can't exactly vote Frogger thanks to Frogger's role, but can you hammer when Frogger gets to L-1 please?

NicCage:

Just isoed you and you said you were waffling on Frogger. Between the scummy looks and the valid point you asked which I don't think Frogger answered, please, help out by voting.

[mastin2]

vote fro99er

I agree with sonic though. This needs death.

vezokpiraka:

Can you support the Frogger wagon again, like you did back here?

It CAN get to a lynch.