Newbie 1633: The Daily Show-A Retrospective - GAME OVER

[BlueBloodedToffee]

No-one said anything about hammering.

[fferyllt]

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[Draynth]

You know if you were voting for a reason there's no need for you to name it RV. The only reason you should do so is because you know your reason sucks so you cover it up with a "RV" label should people ask about it in later games. And now when people frown on you you quickly defend your vote like he's your scumread all along.

vote: necargoface

I like RV's. I didn't get to make one in the early stages.

I made an RV

. I realized there was a pretty obvious vote. I voted Honest.

The reason I put the RV label on it is because I like RV's and wanted to make an RV, but didn't want to input nothing to that post either. Not because I have a horrid reason.

So you're saying it was an RV, but not an RV?

[necargoface]

I mean of course he's null. He has one post which is just a naked vote. We shouldn't hammer until he posts more though.

This. We shouldn't hammer Honest yet because he is a nul read to many, because many can't tell intentions when a person posts a total of 2(-4) words.

[Draynth]

^Is he a null read to you?

[Dierfire]

@Mod

I request that you prod Mason, please. I believe that it has been over 48 hours since his last post.

[Dierfire]

@Draynth @Yuriko

If Honest were not at L-1, would you cast a vote for him?

[Draynth]

Probably not, no.

[fferyllt]

Any needed prods will go out in 5 or 6 hours.

[Dierfire]

Probably not, no.

Which player would be a better vote?

[Honest]

My vote wasn't quite random just thought blue blood was being too pushy. I'll get round to posting a bit more at some point.

[Honest]

Shall I claim?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

No need to claim, nobody has stated intent.

You should do the posting more thing though.

[Honest]

I think what I need to do is go do some reading to try to understand how you can tell what anyone is. Gut alone I think necargo is town.

[Draynth]

I think what I need to do is go do some reading to try to understand how you can tell what anyone is.

Gut alone I think necargo is town.

Why? I think the exact opposite right now.

[Honest]

Also yuriko. But literally I don't even k ow what to look for.

[Honest]

Just I have played a couple of times on a different forum and the wolves weren't so vocal. His hunt seems genuine.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

His hunt seems genuine.

Sorry, what?

[Draynth]

-I am generally lazy.
-I generally like wagons (probably because I'm lazy)

This is just an easy get out of jail free card if he get's caught later in the game for jumping on tons of wagons.

@Necargoface: It seems weird to me that you have an issue with people putting someone at L-1 and yet you put someone at L-1 with your 'RV'.

Thank you for putting "RV" in quotation marks, because it was not really an RV. Definitely not actually an RV.

This post directly contradicts his 68 where he says

'I like RV's. I didn't get to make one in the early stages. I made an RV.

'
He keeps saying that his vote was an RV, but then gives a reason. The meaning of an RV is

Random Vote

, ie. Voting without a

legitimate

reason.
I don't have a problem with him opening the game with an RV, or opening with a legit vote. I have an issue when he tries to pass off his vote as an RV. My guess is that if someone were to quickhammer, please for the love of god don't, then he will just say 'It was an RV, I wasn't on that wagon'.

Vote stays on Honest because he hasn't posted since the vote explaining why he should not be hammered.

That's an awful reason for your vote

I am voting because he has posted once this entire game with a naked, contextless, useless post,

and has not responded to any of the resulting backlash

.

Given the fact that at the time he hadn't posted anything else, or on any other threads on the site, why is this scummy?

Because we shouldn't hammer Honest until he responds to all the backlash he's getting.

This could just be a grammar error, if that's the right way to phrase it, but doesn't this imply that you want someone to hammer no matter how he responds?

The reason I put the RV label on it is because I like RV's and wanted to make an RV, but didn't want to input nothing to that post either. Not because I have a horrid reason.

Again, saying it's an RV then also saying it's not an RV.

God, I'm bad at remembering to reply to all the posts that I want to.

Vote stays on Honest because he hasn't posted since the vote explaining why he should not be hammered. I will still violently go after whomever hammers him without warning, however.

It sounds as though you think that he would flip Town. Do you?

He could flip town. I don't think he would, but he could.

How can you

possibly

think this? He had made

one

post. One.

I mean of course he's null. He has one post which is just a naked vote. We shouldn't hammer until he posts more though.

This. We shouldn't hammer Honest yet because he is a nul read to many, because many can't tell intentions when a person posts a total of 2(-4) words.

If he's a null read to many, as you said yourself you can't tell intentions from one post, why are you so adamant that he is scum?
Finally is my issue with necargo for putting Honest at L-1 with his 'Rv'-'Not RV'-'legit vote'-whatever you wanna call it. Why not just state your dissatisfaction with the post, and look through other posts so far to come up with a scum read? The only reason I can see you doing this is to rolefish.
VOTE: Necargoface

[Dierfire]

I agree with Draynth in broad terms that Necargo's vote and reasoning is suspicious if Honest is Town. I'm still not convinced of that, however. In particular, from his recent series of posts, I'm not seeing how BBT was "too pushy" but Necargo is Town for being "vocal" (whatever that means).

[Draynth]

I agree with Draynth in broad terms that Necargo's vote and reasoning is suspicious if Honest is Town. I'm still not convinced of that, however. In particular, from his recent series of posts, I'm not seeing how BBT was "too pushy" but Necargo is Town for being "vocal" (whatever that means).

Why do those two things make you unsure of Honest being town?
And why is Necargo's vote only suspicious if Honest is town?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hey guys, will give this game a thorough read through tomorrow.

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[YurikoJasmine]

No-one said anything about hammering.

I do not wish to state intent to hammer unless I do intent to hammer

[YurikoJasmine]

@Draynth @Yuriko

If Honest were not at L-1, would you cast a vote for him?

No. Not by the one post that he posted

[YurikoJasmine]

However his recent posts look bad. Can't decide if it's newbtown bad or scum bad