Inorganic Chemistry [GAME OVER, SCUM WIN]

[Wickedestjr]

Ika/vezok/perv/lc/tso

tso and perv are probably towniest reads of the bunch

I could get on board with an Ika/Vezok/LC team...

[Cerberus v666]

Hey Wicked, I just want to make sure I'm not being crazy here: you understand the entirety of the sequence of things that happened today(from the fake claim of receiving the invention, to the cc, to the outing by SB, to outing myself), and understand the thoughts behind why I did what I did right? Even if you don't necessarily agree with me.

[Titus]

@Wicked/Nacho, my initial VCA doesn't like that. Look at the 3 v 3 v 3 when SC and I were both on Mac.

[Wickedestjr]

Hey Wicked, I just want to make sure I'm not being crazy here: you understand the entirety of the sequence of things that happened today(from the fake claim of receiving the invention, to the cc, to the outing by SB, to outing myself), and understand the thoughts behind why I did what I did right? Even if you don't necessarily agree with me.

Yes

[Wickedestjr]

@Wicked/Nacho, my initial VCA doesn't like that. Look at the 3 v 3 v 3 when SC and I were both on Mac.

Do you not like it because Vezok and Mac were on the SC wagon together? I don't think that's a strong town tell for vezok.

Otherwise, I can't see why your VCA doesn't like it.

[T S O]

Nacho, when did you go from ika-town to ika-scum, hmm?

[Cerberus v666]

Hey Wicked, I just want to make sure I'm not being crazy here: you understand the entirety of the sequence of things that happened today(from the fake claim of receiving the invention, to the cc, to the outing by SB, to outing myself), and understand the thoughts behind why I did what I did right? Even if you don't necessarily agree with me.

Yes

Cool. So many people don't seem to understand the sequence of events, I just wanted to make sure I was making at least some sense.

[Wickedestjr]

Antihero:

[Wickedestjr]

Hey Wicked, I just want to make sure I'm not being crazy here: you understand the entirety of the sequence of things that happened today(from the fake claim of receiving the invention, to the cc, to the outing by SB, to outing myself), and understand the thoughts behind why I did what I did right? Even if you don't necessarily agree with me.

Yes

Cool. So many people don't seem to understand the sequence of events, I just wanted to make sure I was making at least some sense.

I don't think it was a good idea for you to lie. But I understand your thought process and I think you're town.

I've just avoided the conversation altogether because enough of the town seems to realize that you shouldn't be lynched today...

[Jaqen Hghar]

Ok, so reading is tech and all that. A man gets it. Now...a man expected to simply take it on faith that the most common scum role in mafia is being assigned to town this game and to none other than one of a man's top 2 scum reads? And that just happens to fit in with the scum agenda a man is seeing LC spit on D2? No. Pass.

Roleblockers have been known to be of either alignment, though

Roleblocker is probably the most common Mafia power role.

Jaqen, why would scum hand out an ability that can stop their powers or outright find scum to extremely and obviously town players? SC/SC/SB. And then do what I did today JUST to let SB know that I'm the source of the invention they just received(which didn't work out, but whatever).

Also, and this is completely unrelated to the previous points, but why do you feel I would have felt more likley to be pressured as a result of aristophanes flip? Hell, why would I have let aristophanes be lynched, when I could have easily made the split 7-5 on kari myself? I guess Kari could be a stronger role, but scum investigative is pretty strong...

I'm not a reading man today. Who claimed role blocker?

My invention is a role block.

Ika, show up and talk before we lynch you.

To make yourself

look

town? Town are having the ability to eff up using a role such as that one pretty darned well and unlike most a man is considering it a definite possibility one of SC/SB are scum anyhow.

[T S O]

The other guy does it too is not a defense Ika.

Hillary Duff is town.
Ank is overly agreeable.

Vezok looks town.

~Titus

its not a defense, its dicussion.

congratulations on misrepping my intentions and not reading the context or even trying to understand the relationship that tere and i share.

also tere is a female

pffffffff take 2:

Flames682
vezokpiraka
Mac
Sonic Boom (Metal Sonic + Titus)
Wickedestjr
Lying Cat (sthar8 + Jingle)
mastin2
hiplop
Jaqen Hghar
Flubbernugget

everyone else not in this list is town to me atm

Flames is town.

Wicked is nulltown - significantly enough that it's worth mentioning at least.

your gonna have to sell me on flames town right now.

wicked i have as null at best right now

Maybe. Do you have any unexplainable town reads as well?

No! But I don't have any really strong townreads yet either. I only get them after I start interacting with people.

Well im here!

What are your current reads right now comapred to my POE reads atm?

This level of effort seems unlikely to come from ika-scum.

I agree that every day since d1 has been ika scum-meta. Even so, I'm really not sold on ika-scum

[T S O]

I would also like the ika wagon to slow the fuck up since I really don't like Cerb's claim.

[Cerberus v666]

Ok, so reading is tech and all that. A man gets it. Now...a man expected to simply take it on faith that the most common scum role in mafia is being assigned to town this game and to none other than one of a man's top 2 scum reads? And that just happens to fit in with the scum agenda a man is seeing LC spit on D2? No. Pass.

Roleblockers have been known to be of either alignment, though

Roleblocker is probably the most common Mafia power role.

Jaqen, why would scum hand out an ability that can stop their powers or outright find scum to extremely and obviously town players? SC/SC/SB. And then do what I did today JUST to let SB know that I'm the source of the invention they just received(which didn't work out, but whatever).

Also, and this is completely unrelated to the previous points, but why do you feel I would have felt more likley to be pressured as a result of aristophanes flip? Hell, why would I have let aristophanes be lynched, when I could have easily made the split 7-5 on kari myself? I guess Kari could be a stronger role, but scum investigative is pretty strong...

I'm not a reading man today. Who claimed role blocker?

My invention is a role block.

Ika, show up and talk before we lynch you.

To make yourself

look

town? Town are having the ability to eff up using a role such as that one pretty darned well and unlike most a man is considering it a definite possibility one of SC/SB are scum anyhow.[/quote]

To make myself look town to....what? Immediately draw attention to myself with this entire sequence of events? To let my possible scum partner in your mind SB screw up me creating a plausible reason for not getting shot(having evidence in thread that I'm not an inventor)? Like, wtf man. You're so obstinate about things your'e wrong about. I'm not even mad anymore, i'm just impressed, though that won't stop me from rubbing your face in it when you're proven wrong.

pedit: I have no problem with that.

UNVOTE: ika

TSO, what part of my claim do you not like? Are you also one of the shortsighted people like vezok and jaqen who seem to feel that role=alignment, and thus don't believe it makes sense for their to be a town roleblock inventor?

[Cerberus v666]

Ok, so reading is tech and all that. A man gets it. Now...a man expected to simply take it on faith that the most common scum role in mafia is being assigned to town this game and to none other than one of a man's top 2 scum reads? And that just happens to fit in with the scum agenda a man is seeing LC spit on D2? No. Pass.

Roleblockers have been known to be of either alignment, though

Roleblocker is probably the most common Mafia power role.

Jaqen, why would scum hand out an ability that can stop their powers or outright find scum to extremely and obviously town players? SC/SC/SB. And then do what I did today JUST to let SB know that I'm the source of the invention they just received(which didn't work out, but whatever).

Also, and this is completely unrelated to the previous points, but why do you feel I would have felt more likley to be pressured as a result of aristophanes flip? Hell, why would I have let aristophanes be lynched, when I could have easily made the split 7-5 on kari myself? I guess Kari could be a stronger role, but scum investigative is pretty strong...

I'm not a reading man today. Who claimed role blocker?

My invention is a role block.

Ika, show up and talk before we lynch you.

To make yourself

look

town? Town are having the ability to eff up using a role such as that one pretty darned well and unlike most a man is considering it a definite possibility one of SC/SB are scum anyhow.

To make myself look town to....what? Immediately draw attention to myself with this entire sequence of events? To let my possible scum partner in your mind SB screw up me creating a plausible reason for not getting shot(having evidence in thread that I'm not an inventor)? Like, wtf man. You're so obstinate about things your'e wrong about. I'm not even mad anymore, i'm just impressed, though that won't stop me from rubbing your face in it when you're proven wrong.

pedit: I have no problem with that.

UNVOTE: ika

TSO, what part of my claim do you not like? Are you also one of the shortsighted people like vezok and jaqen who seem to feel that role=alignment, and thus don't believe it makes sense for their to be a town roleblock inventor?

Lol. I should have clearly made sure I had my spoiler set up properly, and had used the *right* spoiler tag. bleh.

[Cerberus v666]

EBWOP: *there* not *their*

[Wickedestjr]

TSO;

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

[Jaqen Hghar]

Scum are needing just two mislynches for sending it to perpetual lylo. Claiming today is creating one mislynch. Whoever is being blocked tonight is setting up a second mislynch. Its no secret most on MS are wetting their pants when it is coming to lynching claimed PRs, so making that claim is low risk high reward and you and everybody else (should) know it.

[Cerberus v666]

Scum are needing just two mislynches for sending it to perpetual lylo. Claiming today is creating one mislynch. Whoever is being blocked tonight is setting up a second mislynch. Its no secret most on MS are wetting their pants when it is coming to lynching claimed PRs, so making that claim is low risk high reward and you and everybody else (should) know it.

Maybe you should check how many games I have on this site before you attribute any hive mind site meta reasoning to my actions.

[Cerberus v666]

EBWOP: Also, how is claiming today setting up a mislynch? And anything involving roleblocking that sets up a mislynch tomorrow, involves skipping a kill tonight, so THAT doesn't make sense. Man. Seriously. Think things through before you say them.

[PeregrineV]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Nachomamma8

A man is feeling best voting here or T S O given they're the only names left on a wagon which should have two scum onboard, but is also more than happy in lynching Cerebus. That one's name is coming up too often, too predictably, in VCA.

Can you explain this? I have no actual idea what you're talking about.

Ika can eat rope. Part policy part idgaf part scum lurking.

Meanwhile, you continue to not vote ika. Fantastic.

Vote: ika

Aristo, any thoughts?

Also, the game would be pretty broken if both the commuter and cop are town. The commuter is obv scum at this point.

Fucking stop.

@TSO- back in the game, buddy. I'm here too.

The backflips jacques is doing to justify being hilariously wrong read more about his ego than alignment. That's not to say that he's towning it up, but I'm not excited about lynching him.

ika is totally scum. Given that a certain mod has apparently randomly assigned my vote, I should move it to someone I actually want to lynch.

VOTE: ika

I've thought about fluquis' claim wrt the invention they received, and I decided that it's dumb. It is FAR more protown to claim what the invention was for balance purposes. I do not trust either of you to determine whether an invention balances town or not, and your in-thread speculation has done nothing to assure me otherwise. At the bare minimum, I would like you to claim the category of the power. The power being an invention gives scum a huge information deficit and we would be idiots not to abuse that.

VOTE: ika

Let's see you tell me how terrible I am again. Bring it.

~Titus

Okay. I will start doing stuff.

I am being incredibly useless here and I'm sorry.

Yeah another promise with no followthrough and I'm going to encourage voteparking.

VOTE: ika

Let's see you tell me how terrible I am again. Bring it.

~Titus

Criticises me for not doing much, votes the wagon I began? Excellent.

...I can't believe I'm saying this, but I have gradually started to feel a little dirty voting ika. I presumed his ISO would be full of prod dodges for days, but ...it looks like he was actually trying? Which worries me.

@TSO

- Your ika defense starts at 2687 after he gets three votes, with him posting nothing in between. Describe in detail your "ika=town" epiphany, and the cause behind it.

Vote: TSO

[Cerberus v666]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Nachomamma8

A man is feeling best voting here or T S O given they're the only names left on a wagon which should have two scum onboard, but is also more than happy in lynching Cerebus. That one's name is coming up too often, too predictably, in VCA.

Can you explain this? I have no actual idea what you're talking about.

Ika can eat rope. Part policy part idgaf part scum lurking.

Meanwhile, you continue to not vote ika. Fantastic.

Vote: ika

Aristo, any thoughts?

Also, the game would be pretty broken if both the commuter and cop are town. The commuter is obv scum at this point.

Fucking stop.

@TSO- back in the game, buddy. I'm here too.

The backflips jacques is doing to justify being hilariously wrong read more about his ego than alignment. That's not to say that he's towning it up, but I'm not excited about lynching him.

ika is totally scum. Given that a certain mod has apparently randomly assigned my vote, I should move it to someone I actually want to lynch.

VOTE: ika

I've thought about fluquis' claim wrt the invention they received, and I decided that it's dumb. It is FAR more protown to claim what the invention was for balance purposes. I do not trust either of you to determine whether an invention balances town or not, and your in-thread speculation has done nothing to assure me otherwise. At the bare minimum, I would like you to claim the category of the power. The power being an invention gives scum a huge information deficit and we would be idiots not to abuse that.

VOTE: ika

Let's see you tell me how terrible I am again. Bring it.

~Titus

Okay. I will start doing stuff.

I am being incredibly useless here and I'm sorry.

Yeah another promise with no followthrough and I'm going to encourage voteparking.

VOTE: ika

Let's see you tell me how terrible I am again. Bring it.

~Titus

Criticises me for not doing much, votes the wagon I began? Excellent.

...I can't believe I'm saying this, but I have gradually started to feel a little dirty voting ika. I presumed his ISO would be full of prod dodges for days, but ...it looks like he was actually trying? Which worries me.

@TSO

- Your ika defense starts at 2687 after he gets three votes, with him posting nothing in between. Describe in detail your "ika=town" epiphany, and the cause behind it.

Vote: TSO

Hmm. Wouldn't it make more sense to, if the obvious accusation you're making is true, lynch ika first, and then we can work on the connection between them?

[T S O]

I believe ika's scumgame is literally fucking awful. As in, if ika is posting, ika is town.

Wicked's link makes me re-analyse that, I guess.

[T S O]

It's a legitimate point, Peregrine, but riddle me this: what do I get out of starting a wagon on my scumbuddy and then jumping off? It's extremely poor play.

[Sonic Boom]

@TSO, Show me the last post where ika tried.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

Yeah there's no trying in that link either.

ika hasn't tried most if not all of the game. A blank PoE wall isn't trying to scumhunt. ika's posting in plenty of other places. It's like ika "gave up" when he couldn't mislynch me.

~Titus