Mini 1701 - Modified Werewolf 13er

[absta101]

@RC

- Do you agree or disagree with these statements and why?

I want to see these crumbs you've seen since D1 -

IMO, it was subconsciously a scummy thing to mention.

Plus, I want to see if you were just making this reason up.

My rationale was: Was the initial statement made up on the spot, then you put together 3 weak quotes to justify it (which is scum-alignment indicative).

the crumbs you pointed out were not really crumbs, but maybe u as mafia thought they were, and thats why you shot him?

I believe scum would naturally create statements on the spot.

[Doctor Who]

quite close to voting you Doctor, how long will you fucking dodge the prods? Just replace out if you can't play; same goes for everyone else that is lurking.

Not all of us live in the basement of our parents house and can screw around all day.

[absta101]

quite close to voting you Doctor, how long will you fucking dodge the prods? Just replace out if you can't play; same goes for everyone else that is lurking.

Not all of us live in the basement of our parents house and can screw around all day.

Lmao, nice. Not sure why you are taking it so personal but still, if you can't "screw around" don't stay in the game.

[Bulbazoor]

Hi.

[TonyMontana]

Best case scenario: Seer has two innocents (not including an un-cc'd Angel),

Angel claims, that's 4 clears today. Narrows down scum to 2 in 5

. If we manage to lynch someone in the 5, regardless if we hit scum or town, then Angel is shot overnight, we then come into D4 with Seer and three good reports.

And how exactly do you suggest we get 4 clears without the seer claiming?
Or were you actually suggesting the seer would claim as well, and scum would still kill the angel?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Bulba, what do you think about RC voting you and his reasons for doing so?

Who are your top scum reads and why?

I previously questioned two reads that you stated - can you answer those please?

[RedCoyote]

Best case scenario: Seer has two innocents (not including an un-cc'd Angel),

Angel claims, that's 4 clears today. Narrows down scum to 2 in 5

. If we manage to lynch someone in the 5, regardless if we hit scum or town, then Angel is shot overnight, we then come into D4 with Seer and three good reports.

And how exactly do you suggest we get 4 clears without the seer claiming?
Or were you actually suggesting the seer would claim as well, and scum would still kill the angel?

Again, this is the best case scenario. In my best case scenario, the Seer is good enough to not get a wagon on him and prevent wagons from happening on his innocents without claiming.

Quit knocking my dreams, Nordmann.

[RedCoyote]

@RC

- Do you agree or disagree with these statements and why?

I want to see these crumbs you've seen since D1 -

IMO, it was subconsciously a scummy thing to mention.

Plus, I want to see if you were just making this reason up.

My rationale was: Was the initial statement made up on the spot, then you put together 3 weak quotes to justify it (which is scum-alignment indicative).

the crumbs you pointed out were not really crumbs, but maybe u as mafia thought they were, and thats why you shot him?

I believe scum would naturally create statements on the spot.

I hesitate to answer this because even with you taking the time to clean it up for me, I'm still kind of confused by this timeline of events and what the significance of it is. As I told BBT, gun to my head, I'd pick redFF for scum over you.

[RedCoyote]

Sometimes I feel like this game is just people talking past one another until someone gets bored enough to give up, lol.

[RedCoyote]

How come DW and TM haven't voted yet?

[Boonskiies]

Hi.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

This game is becoming frustrating now. Whoever is town in the big group of 'We like doing fuck all' can you knock it off and start contributing? I would place Boon, Bulba, Doctor, Keyser and Redff in this group.

I'm becoming increasingly confident that both scum are in that group. I also still like Boon for town so that's 4 to choose from. I like those odds.

[RedCoyote]

Hi.

If I was the mod, I wouldn't let you get away with this bullshit, fyi.

[absta101]

@RC

I hesitate to answer this because even with you taking the time to clean it up for me, I'm still kind of confused by this timeline of events and what the significance of it is. As I told BBT, gun to my head, I'd pick redFF for scum over you.

The timeline doesn't matter I just want to see what you think of those statements. Simply, do you disagree or agree with what they are saying and why?

It's really not that hard to answer...

This is the post that they are referring to as being scum motivated.

Also, kmd probably died because he actually knows how to think and he was dropping PR crumbs since D1.

[RedCoyote]

BBT, I'm asking you to give me this one, man. I don't deserve it after the Zoro misfire, but give me this one. I'll completely sheep you tomorrow if I am wrong. You can hold me to that.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Bulba

[RedCoyote]

@RC

- Do you agree or disagree with these statements and why?

I want to see these crumbs you've seen since D1 -

IMO, it was subconsciously a scummy thing to mention.

Plus, I want to see if you were just making this reason up.

My rationale was: Was the initial statement made up on the spot, then you put together 3 weak quotes to justify it (which is scum-alignment indicative).

the crumbs you pointed out were not really crumbs, but maybe u as mafia thought they were, and thats why you shot him?

I believe scum would naturally create statements on the spot.

1) I agree that it's scummy to mention breadcrumbs in instances where the situation does not call for it, a.k.a. rolefishing. If a town player says that he sees crumbs from another player, especially unprovoked, I think that is generally a player that's attempting to misdirect the town. Newer players should necessarily be given slack in certain situations.
2) If a player cannot answer someone else's direct questions, or if it looks as though the player is deliberately dodging said questions, then I would agree that's generally scum-alignment indicative.
3) If scum thinks they see breadcrumbs, I would say that's probably a good lead to go on for a shot.
4) I concur with this.

Hope this helps.

[Bulbazoor]

BBT is not reading. I think you are scum to be honest. You are barely reading the context of the thread. I am stating that I do not like coyote so far and you ignore it. I townread zoro yesterday and abdta was a town read as well. Coyote, if you are town, stop deathtunneling me. You and tony are my scum reads

[RedCoyote]

Bulba, answer BBT's questions. It isn't that hard. You continue to dodge his questions and then you call him scum because... why, exactly? His questions are too difficult? He's scumhunting too hard? I also noticed you weren't voting redFF or absta. You seem to be hiding in plain sight just like you did throughout this game.

I also love this quote, "If you are town, stop tunnelling me... you are my scumread" Presumably the next sentence was, "you should vote yourself!" but you erased it and couldn't think of anything better. I'm not trying to pick on you, but it's so clear that you have no real scumreads that are based on scumhunting. I'll grant you the Banakai scumread. I think personally you were bussing, but I could see people saying that it was the real deal. The problem comes when you look at every other post after you made the Banakai vote. I challenge all players to go back and look at these posts. Every other post you spent trying to talk up other players as scum (BBT, TM) and never once engaging Banakai at all. Never once. You never questioned your vote. You never sought to encourage other people to look at Banakai. You just sat there trying to talk the town onto other wagons. I see through your MO like a sheet of freshly Windexed glass.

[Shinobi]

Vote Count

absta101

(3):

Boonskiies, redFF, Keyser Söze

Bulbazoor

(2):

RedCoyote, BlueBloodedToffee

redFF

(1):

absta101

Not Voting

(3):

Doctor Who, Bulbazoor, TonyMontana

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-09-02 11:30:00)

[Boonskiies]

I'm not interested in any wagon besides Absta, so until he is lynched.

[redFF]

I'm not interested in any wagon besides Absta, so until he is lynched.

this tbh

[redFF]

im back at school and i have less time than i thought i would for this site

so yeah, idk if the reread will come anymore , maybe tomorrow morning

[absta101]

@RC

1) I agree that it's scummy to mention breadcrumbs in instances where the situation does not call for it, a.k.a. rolefishing. If a town player says that he sees crumbs from another player, especially unprovoked, I think that is generally a player that's attempting to misdirect the town. Newer players should necessarily be given slack in certain situations.
2) If a player cannot answer someone else's direct questions, or if it looks as though the player is deliberately dodging said questions, then I would agree that's generally scum-alignment indicative.
3) If scum thinks they see breadcrumbs, I would say that's probably a good lead to go on for a shot.
4) I concur with this.

First off, why do you think Redff looks more scummy than me if you are agreeing with his points?

I was hoping you would take my post #1330 into context with this at least. I agree with what you are saying here in general but you aren't thinking about it in terms of my post. For example, point 1 doesn't apply considering I made the post

after

kmd had died. Would you still agree that it was scummy for me to mention it in this situation?

Also I don't think I understand your statement in 3. Can you elaborate on that one, as in, why would scum mention the reason why they shot someone?

[absta101]

BBT, I'm asking you to give me this one, man. I don't deserve it after the Zoro misfire, but give me this one. I'll completely sheep you tomorrow if I am wrong. You can hold me to that.

Unless he dies over night. BBT is the obvious next shot imo.