Inorganic Chemistry [GAME OVER, SCUM WIN]

[mastin2]

What's there to catch up on?

I wish there was content, but things are kinda dead, so...there really isn't anything?

[vezokpiraka]

vote peregrineV

This should move the game forward. I'm as certain as I can be that pere is scum.

[Lying Cat]

OK, Jingle's back from Pax and while he hasn't read up, I've bounced some ideas off him and we're almost ready to go on.

So, the townies:

Constantine: Cleared by investigation. In order for him to be scum, we need a confluence of events that is exceedingly improbable.

Mastin: I think I said yesterday, but in addition to mastin's role balancing as town there was no reason for her to deviate from the expected kills if she's scum. Killing cerb and casting doubt on herself was terribly stupid, since she could have just supported my plan and won the game.

TSO: His play has been fairly town, but he's capable of faking that. The clincher here is his investigation of wicked. Scum TSO would absolutely have been aware of the plan that he should investigate cerb, and would know how dangerous PoE is for scum. First, there is no reason for him to draw attention to himself by investigating the wrong person. And second, investigating wicked gave us an extra conftown for no reason. The only scum explanation for those actions that I see are to protect a scumbuddy from investigation (which we know is not the case) or to fake an innocent on a scumbuddy (also impossible).

Me: Spent forever protecting town PRs. Had no reason to kill Cerb. PoE plan that fucked scum.

lynch pool tomorrow morning. Anybody wanna poke some holes?

[Lying Cat]

@ antihero I'm sorry to do this, but can we initiate a force replace on Constantine? Due to recent events I'd like to WOTC him out of this game. I'd be happy to help find a replacement in any way you can allow me to. I know it's a pain in the ass, but it's inevitable that he's gonna get himself banned anyway and I'd like to have a replacement who's actually playing in the game.

[mastin2]

LC, when it comes to your game content, want to give it a look later. But when it comes to this:

@ antihero I'm sorry to do this, but can we initiate a force replace on Constantine? Due to recent events I'd like to WOTC him out of this game. I'd be happy to help find a replacement in any way you can allow me to. I know it's a pain in the ass, but it's inevitable that he's gonna get himself banned anyway and I'd like to have a replacement who's actually playing in the game.

It

does

have my support.

Constantine can, sometimes, play the game.
Most of the times, he...doesn't. He's on the road to a ban if he doesn't clean up his act, and I have been very tired of him so I do support this.

In short, until Constantine "grows up" and matures (hey, it can happen to them, sometimes), he's not a player I really want to play with. He's not an auto-blacklist, but he IS a WotC-worthy player and whenever someone brings up WotC for him, I support it, like I am right now.

I'm sure someone like AP would love to come in as conftown. And if not, I could probably find some player that I know to come in. (Like, I dunno, Plotinus, maybe? They're a pretty good lategame player.)

[Antihero]

@ antihero I'm sorry to do this, but can we initiate a force replace on Constantine? Due to recent events I'd like to WOTC him out of this game. I'd be happy to help find a replacement in any way you can allow me to. I know it's a pain in the ass, but it's inevitable that he's gonna get himself banned anyway and I'd like to have a replacement who's actually playing in the game.

[issue pending]

[Antihero]

Carboplatin

Carboplatin, or cis-diammine(1,1-cyclobutanedicarboxylato)platinum(II) (trade names Paraplatin and Paraplatin-AQ) is a chemotherapy drug used against some forms of cancer (mainly ovarian carcinoma, lung, head and neck cancers as well as endometrial, esophageal, bladder, breast and cervical; central nervous system or germ cell tumors; osteogenic sarcoma, and as preparation for a stem cell or bone marrow transplant). It was introduced in the late 1980s and has since gained popularity in clinical treatment due to its vastly reduced side effects compared to its parent compound cisplatin. Cisplatin and carboplatin belong to the group of platinum-based antineoplastic agents, and interact with DNA to interfere with DNA repair.

In terms of its structure, carboplatin differs from cisplatin in that it has a bidentate dicarboxylate (the ligand is CycloButane DiCarboxylic Acid, CBDCA) in place of the two chloride ligand, which are the leaving groups in cisplatin. For this reason, "CBDCA" is sometimes used in the medical literature as an abbreviation referring to carboplatin. Carboplatin exhibits lower reactivity and slower DNA binding kinetics, although it forms the same reaction products in vitro at equivalent doses with cisplatin. Unlike cisplatin, carboplatin may be susceptible to alternative mechanisms. Some results show that cisplatin and carboplatin cause different morphological changes in MCF-7 cell lines while exerting their cytotoxic behaviour. The diminished reactivity limits protein-carboplatin complexes, which are excreted. The lower excretion rate of carboplatin means that more is retained in the body, and hence its effects are longer lasting (a retention half-life of 30 hours for carboplatin, compared to 1.5-3.6 hours in the case of cisplatin).

Vote Count 7.2

mastin2 - 1 (T S O)
PeregrineV - 1 (vezokpiraka)
T S O - 1 (PeregrineV)

Not Voting: mastin2, Lying Cat, St Constantine the Hermit

4 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2015-09-10 22:25:37)

[vezokpiraka]

Anti: I am voting pere

[Lying Cat]

The more I think about it, the more solid I am on vezok/PV. There's a thing I need to run by jingle, but I expect to be voting soon.

Please please please if there are any holes in my logic let me know asap

[vezokpiraka]

The more I think about it, the more solid I am on vezok/PV. There's a thing I need to run by jingle, but I expect to be voting soon.

Please please please if there are any holes in my logic let me know asap

Why would I bus my buddy in MyLo? Anyway as long as you think pere is scum I agree with you.

[T S O]

It's just so fucking convenient that it's vezok/PV. The odds of us lynching Nacho and Jaqen first is extremely improbable. You should know that, LC.

[T S O]

I am sorry to have to keep making excuses, which is excruciating because I actually have loads of free time, but our ISP lied - we're not getting it back. So we're switching, but it's taking time. My sincere apologies.

[T S O]

I support getting Constantine out asap. Please do that.

[Lying Cat]

The more I think about it, the more solid I am on vezok/PV. There's a thing I need to run by jingle, but I expect to be voting soon.

Please please please if there are any holes in my logic let me know asap

Why would I bus my buddy in MyLo? Anyway as long as you think pere is scum I agree with you.

Because it doesn't matter if one of you dies, as long as one more town gets lynched you win. If I were in your position as scum I'd bus for towncred and then attempt to spend that cred opening the lynch pool.

[Lying Cat]

It's just so fucking convenient that it's vezok/PV. The odds of us lynching Nacho and Jaqen first is extremely improbable. You should know that, LC.

I am sorry to have to keep making excuses, which is excruciating because I actually have loads of free time, but our ISP lied - we're not getting it back. So we're switching, but it's taking time. My sincere apologies.

If I'm wrong, break the logic. I don't want to gamble, which is why I'm being careful today. "Convenient" isn't really an argument.

Don't worry about your V/LA, we have loads of time. Just post when you can.

[vezokpiraka]

The more I think about it, the more solid I am on vezok/PV. There's a thing I need to run by jingle, but I expect to be voting soon.

Please please please if there are any holes in my logic let me know asap

Why would I bus my buddy in MyLo? Anyway as long as you think pere is scum I agree with you.

Because it doesn't matter if one of you dies, as long as one more town gets lynched you win. If I were in your position as scum I'd bus for towncred and then attempt to spend that cred opening the lynch pool.

Ok, whatever. As long as we're lynching PV I don't care what you want to do tomorrow.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

When Mastin2 and Lying Cat become moderators, that is when I will worry about being banned.

In the meantime, I am happy to continue not being a distraction, while putting my vote wherever it is best needed.

[T S O]

You're happy to do fucking nothing. No. Wisdom of the Crowds is a thing and a situation like this is exactly why it was put in place.

[mastin2]

I kinda...feel like voting PV, but it just feels...I dunno, too easy?

[PeregrineV]

The more I think about it, the more solid I am on vezok/PV. There's a thing I need to run by jingle, but I expect to be voting soon.

Please please please if there are any holes in my logic let me know asap

Huge hole.

But, I guess I can hear the logic first.

But, still huge hole.

[PeregrineV]

The more I think about it, the more solid I am on vezok/PV. There's a thing I need to run by jingle, but I expect to be voting soon.

Please please please if there are any holes in my logic let me know asap

Why would I bus my buddy in MyLo? Anyway as long as you think pere is scum I agree with you.

Because it doesn't matter if one of you dies, as long as one more town gets lynched you win. If I were in your position as scum I'd bus for towncred and then attempt to spend that cred opening the lynch pool.

That's stupid.

It's 4:2. And instead of mislynching, scum want to make it 4:1, so they can spend an extra night and game day taking it to 3:1, because that's so much better than winning?

I can pretty much say "No" to that, and I'm willing to bet that anyone currently voting is not voting their scum-partner.

[T S O]

can you explain why the fuck you are voting me

[mastin2]

can you explain why the fuck you are voting me

^.

Like, really, I want to know why everyone voting is voting who they are, but none more than PV on TSO.

[Antihero]

Magnesium Sulfate

Magnesium sulfate (or magnesium sulphate) is an inorganic salt (chemical compound) containing magnesium, sulfur and oxygen, with the formula MgSO₄. It is often encountered as the heptahydrate sulfate mineral epsomite (MgSO₄·7H₂O), commonly called Epsom salt, taking its name from a bitter saline spring in Epsom in Surrey, England, where the salt was produced from the springs that arise where the porous chalk of the North Downs meets non-porous London clay. The monohydrate, MgSO₄·H2O is found as the mineral kieserite. The overall global annual usage in the mid-1970s of the monohydrate was 2.3 million tons, of which the majority was used in agriculture.

Anhydrous magnesium sulfate is used as a drying agent. The anhydrous form is hygroscopic (readily absorbs water from the air) and is therefore difficult to weigh accurately; the hydrate is often preferred when preparing solutions (for example, in medical preparations). Epsom salt has been traditionally used as a component of bath salts. Epsom salt can also be used as a beauty product. Athletes use it to soothe sore muscles, while gardeners use it to improve crops. It has a variety of other uses. Epsom salt is also effective in the removal of splinters.

It is on the WHO Model List of Essential Medicines, the most important medications needed in a basic health system.

Vote Count 7.3

mastin2 - 1 (T S O)
PeregrineV - 1 (vezokpiraka)
T S O - 1 (PeregrineV)

Not Voting: mastin2, Lying Cat, St Constantine the Hermit

4 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2015-09-10 22:25:37)

[T S O]

Just wait until the end of the fucking day, Peregrine, that will work. Maybe everyone else should not post as well. Maybe the mod should just leave Constantine to

NOT PLAY THE FUCKING GAME IN A LYLO SITUATION.