Inorganic Chemistry [GAME OVER, SCUM WIN]

[vezokpiraka]

We aren't going to win without constantine. We need everyone to vote for scum in order to lynch them.

[T S O]

VOTE: No Lynch

[T S O]

The worst-case scenario with NL is that Constantine gets shot, which leaves the game functionally the same as today except he's gone and we don't need his vote.

[T S O]

Sthar will know from Bojack that I prefer killing the game at MyLo, like so, but there is no real downside to this plan.

[T S O]

In fact, no, don't do that.

UNVOTE:

[T S O]

Scum don't really want to upset their endgame by posting much at this stage. So, that would normally clear someone, except basically everyone is hardcore lurking.

[T S O]

I feel that vezok is significantly more likely to be scum than PV.

[T S O]

Which is a pity, because I would prefer to back vezok over PV on player strength, but that's how it is.

[T S O]

I keep trying to decide whether this set-up is balanced with mastin being a scum Inventor.

[T S O]

VOTE: vezokpiraka

[T S O]

I am unable to consider Peregrine being scum. I may just be severely underestimating his scumgame, but meh.

[T S O]

In hindsight one of mastin and LC had to be scum, so why didn't we just fucking lynch one to sort the other? Terrible play, mainly led by me.

[T S O]

LC's probably scum.
But,
VOTE: Jaqen Hghar
...There's a small

sliver

of a chance that LC is town and Jaqen is himself the one who made the kill.
In short, LC's almost certainly scum.
But Jaqen?

Jaqen IS scum.

Can you explain your thought process here? Because Jaqen maybe making the kill doesn't make him more likely to be scum in my eyes.

[Lying Cat]

We aren't going to win without constantine. We need everyone to vote for scum in order to lynch them.

Hence the WOTC request...

and the waiting for the resolution of the WOTC request.

I feel that vezok is significantly more likely to be scum than PV.

Why?

@PV Why TSO?

Both of you, MYLO is not the time for vagary. I've posted the logic for my clears, and nobody can be bothered to talk to me about them.

You all need to quit whining about lurkers, and engage.

[T S O]

Because the start of PV's ISO when he attacks me feels like he was legitimately scumhunting. Maybe the sheer mediocrity of flipped scum is making me think this, but I don't know. Vezok's voting record is terrible and he's always on the table, yet always evades the noose. Your clears on you and mastin are rather subjective. In particular, your own clear.

[mastin2]

Scum don't really want to upset their endgame by posting much at this stage. So, that would normally clear someone, except basically everyone is hardcore lurking.

Well, it kinda sorta clears you.

Can you explain your thought process here? Because Jaqen maybe making the kill doesn't make him more likely to be scum in my eyes.

Because at the time, I was considering two options: LC-as-scum, and LC-as-town.
With LC-as-scum, I thought Jaqen would be his partner...thus, scum.
With LC-as-town, I thought Jaqen would be the person most likely to have gambitted by killing Cerberus...thus, scum.
In either case, LC's alignment regardless, I thought it made Jaqen scum.

[vezokpiraka]

Right now all the scumteams I can think of contain pv. Pv voting tso makes tso - pv amother pair that wasn't on the table before.

I'm running circles around my mimd trying to figure out what I'm missing and I come up with nothing.

[mastin2]

Wait, hold on a bit.

I need to check something.

If I'm right...then PV would be all-but confscum.

[mastin2]

Not what I was looking for, but worthy of note:

ika - 7 (vezokpiraka,

T S O

)
T S O - 1 (PeregrineV)
Not Voting: Lying Cat[/color]

So basically, the only way ika

wasn't

double-bussed is if PV is scum.

Wouldn't it be something if, in actuality,

neither

scum bussed ika?

Worthy of note is that LC was also off the Aristophanes wagon, and the PVslot was only on it because the PVslot was the counterwagon.

[mastin2]

Btw, not sure if this should be said, but fuck it, might as well say it.
If we do end up going the no-lynch route, my protection isn't on Constantine.
Yes, I know, he's conftown. I should be protecting him.

But he's so. damn. bad. That

he's not worth it

.
Frankly, I think our odds of winning go UP by leaving him vulnerable to NK, rather than down. I mean, if you guys have any objections to that, you can state 'em. Of course if Constantine gets replaced I will instantly put the protection back on the slot, but if Constantine remains in the game...yeah. It'd pretty much take a full lynch majority telling me to do so before I'd be willing to protect Constantine himself. The slot may be conftown and valuable. He himself is

utterly negating that

.

[mastin2]

What I was mainly looking for in PV, btw, mostly begins with stuff like this:

That leaves Mastin, Hermit and Lying Cat.
I don't have mastin as scum, but I don't have him as town. (I should probably read all his posts, but...seriously.....)
Hermit's playerslot looks town form early ISOs. I think I didn;t like one vote placement, but that's the only bad standout.
Lying Cat I want to say is town, but I haven't looked at his ISO too closely either.
But, he posts stuff like this in which he has 1 town, and 4 leaning town as scumreads).
I guess how many more are we looking for? 2,right?

The Constantine suspicion in particular. He may, legitimately, not have known or understood why Constantine is conftown. Yet here's not the only spot.

I'[m confused on the commute thing. Did Shakira receive the commute night1, or Mastin? Why does the commute claim from Lygin Cat come with no other information that might allow us to cross-check things?

Here, too. And here:

3. Mastin is town for a different reason than I am. Though we

are

uninformed masons. I uninformed mazonized nacho's slot last night too, I'll choose TSO tonight.

UNVOTE:
Nacho, please tell me if this is true. You haven't commented on it.

I commuted last night so he didn't do shit to me.

This seems to contradict the Shakira Confirmed action of blocking Lying Cat.
pedit- cross checking, so not sure yet.

It's basically right there, but not the "a-ha!" moment I thought it might've been.

But basically, I was thinking that PV might not have understood the mechanics of the town PRs, and thus, made what in any normal circumstance would've been a suicidal nightkill, on Cerberus.

[T S O]

I have no idea why you feel both Kari and Aristo were wagons on scum - PV being Kari is a significant point in his favour.

[T S O]

I will say it now - I won't vote PV today.

[mastin2]

I don't know.

PV's a near-constant in my head, but not universally.
One moment, I think vezok.
The next, I think LC.
Pretty much the only one I'm not seeing as scum is TSO, since by play, by actions, I just don't see it. If he's scum, he could pretty much vote anybody and get away with it and win, because I'm simply not seeing him as scum right now.

PV-vezok I can see, but then why the PV vote from vezok? PV-LC I can also see, but only weakly. LC-vezok I don't really see, but I don't really not see it either, if that makes sense. Like, I just get a blank when thinking about it.

I still sort-of want to vote PV, but I just don't know.

[mastin2]

I have no idea why you feel both Kari and Aristo were wagons on scum - PV being Kari is a significant point in his favour.

I dunno, just feels like that whole section of the game was "off"? Like, I feel like something was happening there, it's hard to put into tangible words, that was not organic. (...No pun intended.)