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Post Post #44650 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:36 am

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Amusingly enough Fiora ult is much harder to proc with their ult.

But I'm imagining a world where a J4 top ults to keep the enemy team in it. Yet another case of " I'm Jarvan. I'm helping!"
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Post Post #44651 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:57 pm

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Weee Plat I :)

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Post Post #44653 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:34 am

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Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Weee Plat I :)

Dont wanna jinx it but ill update you guys if I ever hit diamond!

Congrats, but you should always Jinx it. She has a great late game.
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Post Post #44654 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:40 am

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I get really really annoyed when people pick jinx in to assassin heavy opposing teams.

Had a good game today though where it happened. Basically took charge as Ali support, told Vi I wouldn't be initiating bc I had to keep Jinx safe from Zed, Rengar and Blitz. Spent the entire laning phase following jinx around a couple of steps between her and Blitz. He was getting so mad at not being given any clear shots.
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Post Post #44656 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:21 pm

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Ez has an AD ratio on his E. now all he needs is an AD ratio on his W and maybe AD Ez will be a thing again.

(in seriousness, don't put AD on his W.)

Hey, Hito. I've been trying to build Guise first on Vlad when I play him top, but iunno if I'm really getting anything out of it. Any help here?

(although, I know I need to remember to buy boots on any non-ADC role because I always seem to forget until I'm 3 items in <_<.)
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Post Post #44657 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:48 am

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Voidedmafia wrote:Hey, Hito. I've been trying to build Guise first on Vlad when I play him top, but iunno if I'm really getting anything out of it. Any help here?


what kind of folks are you against? Top lane is getting pretty hairy for vlad nowadays (I try to take him mid now). I think top lane, my first item is armguard more often than anything else.

Guise is really good on Vlad, but sometimes you don't get it, or get it late. Vlad has some of the most flexible itemization of any champ, because his "glass cannon" builds still have health, and especially with new liandries - he can be a liandrys/rylais control asshole or a cap/void master blaster.

Also worth nothing - the thing I get angry about is that WOTA, specifically, is a trap option early, because all it does is let Vlad get to full health quickly when he's already really good at that, while doing nothing to shore up his weaknesses.
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Let me try to be a bit more detailed than just "Guise owns"

Starting items: Boots (default), Dorans shield (semi-dangerous lanes where move speed will not assist much), cloth armor (dangerous physical enemies like Riven), amp tome (enemies who cannot threaten you early). Always get hp pots with remaining money.

Boot upgrade: 98% sorc - pen is super strong on vlad because of tides. very occasionally tabi against an all physical, heavy auto-attack squad. I've entertained the idea of wanting swifties against people trying to kite you when you're going rylais just to pin them down - haven't found a chance to actually try it yet but it's something on my mind. Even when you're focusing on heavy roaming, mobi boots suck because you want to transfuse/tides jungle creeps you run past for extra power. (scuttlecrab was a secret vlad buff.)

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Lane is strongly in your favor: {sorc boots + rod}, finish rod into hourglass/rylais depending on situation. Sorc boots are to roam.
Lane not strongly one way or the other, enemy is not super tanky: sorc + guise, dunk that nerd into the shadow realm.
Farm lane where neither of you can kill the other: this probably means they're a tanky fuck, so often I just rush liandries / rylais (order depending on the specifics of the match).
A lot of lane abandonment/split-pushing: I think first item Ludens would be really good here but haven't gotten to try it because my games haven't really been ending up like this recently. Just writing it down!
Losing lane against magic: If you think you can kill them when you get stronger, cowl/guise. If you are getting utterly oppressed and shoved in - well that should be pretty rare, but then go cowl/hextech. If they're poking you a shitload and lanes are persisting for a long time, you actually CAN get a wota after cowl/hextech.
Losing lane against physical: armguard first by a mile. This is one of the most complicated lines to sort after that - guise, hourglass, hextech, all have cases when they're the correct pick. Just play a lot of vlad and learn how to feel it. These are the games you watch out if you're in that rare Tabi case. Boot upgrade can also be nice to help you run away and farm jungle during a freeze / let you procrastinate a pick until you know where to go next.

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Post Post #44658 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:15 am

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The two most notable people I've laned against were Darius and Fiora. I lost handily to the former (although part of that was due to thinking I could win a lvl 2-3 trade and failed, which set the tone for the rest of the lane), and I feel like I did very well against the latter; not dumpstering, but I did win the first 1v1 and I think I won the lane.

I've been going amp first pretty much every game, which might be why I'm forgetting boots. I've been trying to rush Guise first and then go from there, but I think after I play against enough Darius's or Garen's the idea of not singularly rushing guise will get through my head.

I don't have League open in front of me, but IIRC my build tends to look like Guise, Rylai's, Zhonya's/Visage (whichever I build based on which is more prevalent), and then something else If I have the time. I either haven't been able to get to a six-item build or got crushed too hard to even attempt more than 3 items (including boots, which is either sorcs or ionian).

I think the most I need is to play Vlad, and I hope I can do some of that tonight. If I can secure the time for a game or two, I can let you know and you can watch me play some normals.
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Post Post #44659 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:25 am

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What I'm looking at right now as far as my 3 picks for each role

Top: Fiora (maybe Trundle given how banned Fiora is now), Diana/Malphite/someone tanky, Vladimir
Jungle: Volibear, Vi, someone who can use Devourer like Nocturne I guess (ideally learning someone on the three staple enchantments of Warrior, Cinderhulk, and devourer)
Mid: Xerath, TF, Viktor/Malzahar (mainly just who I like/prefer, although it's nice that TF and Viktor are meta picks)
ADC: Ashe, Jinx, Caitlyn/Ezreal (favorite, hypercarry, for when I feel that someone safer is necessary, respectively)
Support: Leona, Soraka, Annie/Karma (tank, support I like, mix of damage and general utility)
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Post Post #44660 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:40 pm

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I'm currently logged onto League if you want to spectate me, Hito.
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Post Post #44661 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:11 pm

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*sigh* that was not a fun game. I don't even know what I could learn from that one.
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Post Post #44662 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:12 pm

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eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee just learned that Wolf is voiced by Matt Mercer so uhhh I am so excited it's silly
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Post Post #44664 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:02 pm

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Only good game of the night, insofar as I actually won. I guess my laning phase was better in that I actually kinda went even in lane.

Not that I remember the rest of the game enough <_<
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Post Post #44665 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:51 pm

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so you're toplaning with vlad?
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Post Post #44666 (ISO) » Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:58 am

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zilean improved a lot from the last patch into one of the best support champs; however he doesn't even register anymore in midlane
heimerdinger is no longer very exceptional at all in the toplane
corki is suddenly an amazing adc pick
zac is now a great toplaner
teemo has a higher winrate in midlane than toplane..........
KENNEN IS NOT TO BE PLAYED AS A SUPPORT
tahm is back in the toplane but meh
veigar is now one of the best midlaners
and zyra is pretty good too

i'm gonna go try midlane teemo
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Post Post #44667 (ISO) » Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:46 am

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Psyche wrote:so you're toplaning with vlad?

Trying to. Mainly because I already have my three for the midlane and I like them enough that I don't really want to switch them out.
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Post Post #44668 (ISO) » Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:38 am

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Post Post #44669 (ISO) » Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:53 am

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Nice dude. We plebs bow to you

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Post Post #44670 (ISO) » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:32 am

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uh I don't bow to you but gj
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Post Post #44671 (ISO) » Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:57 pm

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Nice job, Arthur!

*if only I could at least reach Silver...*
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Post Post #44672 (ISO) » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:22 pm

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Climbed to Silver I after being demoted to Silver III a week ago. Maining Skarner/Shyvana/Gragas has been paying off so far.
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Post Post #44673 (ISO) » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:30 pm

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people are letting skarner go through bans in Silver?
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Post Post #44674 (ISO) » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:34 pm

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Yeah, but not too often. I play the latter two more often. Fiora, Riven, Darius, Garen, and Mord are the most common bans alongside Skarner, but a lot of people ban shit they personally hate, sometimes leaving stuff like Skarner open.
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