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Post Post #44700 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:38 pm

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I think that 1 and 3 might be covered by the same kind of update, maybe. If she can trade back at the enemy without having to go all-in, she'd be able to do stuff without being in the team and might be able to manage against poke.

But, she's meant to be an all-in kind of champ so I doubt that'd happen. 2 would be my bet for shoring up at some point.
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Post Post #44701 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:50 pm

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Leona just needs immunity to cc during Zenith to stop that thresh flay bullshit
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Post Post #44702 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:14 pm

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hitogoroshi wrote:Leona just needs immunity to cc during Zenith to stop that thresh flay bullshit


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Post Post #44703 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:51 pm

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hitogoroshi wrote:Leona just needs immunity to cc during Zenith to stop that thresh flay bullshit


No no no no. That'd also make her far too good.
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Post Post #44704 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:19 pm

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Hey, Hito. I'm going to try and get some hours free Monday night (about 7-11) to play some league if you want to spectate and watch me play.

"try" being the operative word. I at least want to get two games in.
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Post Post #44705 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:46 am

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Something else I thought of while I went to sleep: What keeps Vi from being played top, again?
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Post Post #44706 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:58 am

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I've tried it in silverish level and you have huge mana problems early on if you want to actually trade.
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Post Post #44707 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:07 am

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Yeah she's a bigger hog than sej's when it comes to mana.
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Post Post #44708 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:18 am

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animorpherv1 wrote:
hitogoroshi wrote:Leona just needs immunity to cc during Zenith to stop that thresh flay bullshit


No no no no. That'd also make her far too good.


I don't know, who besides Thresh reliably knocks Leona out of Zenith? It just stops Leona from being super-countered by one of the most popular supports. It makes her a lot better in that one specific matchup, but I don't think it really makes her oppressive in other matches. It'd just make her less annoying to pick blind because Thresh is such an outlier counter for her. The only counter on that level is Morg but she can only shield one or the other so you can play around it, whereas Thresh can literally just hard-deny any Zenith from landing because it targets Leona and not the person she's attacking. It's just dumb.

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Post Post #44709 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:24 am

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hitogoroshi wrote:I don't know, who besides Thresh reliably knocks Leona out of Zenith?


Janna, Braum, and Alistar are all people who can do it that isn't Thresh (although Braum has to ult to do it).

EDIT: Zyra can do it, but only on her ult AND only if she predicts it.
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Post Post #44710 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:38 am

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Cam Alistair headbutt her out?
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Post Post #44711 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:58 am

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Oman wrote:Cam Alistair headbutt her out?


Yup. It only works with displacements, as far as I'm aware. That's why Braum can do it, but only if he ults.
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Post Post #44712 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:38 am

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KaleiÐoscøpe wrote:Uh, Soraka is OP as fuck, are you drunk? If they cant get to the backline, and you know how to play Soraka, you win the majority of your games.

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Post Post #44713 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:53 am

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animorpherv1 wrote:EDIT: Zyra can do it, but only on her ult AND only if she predicts it.

In which case she's probably wasting her ult anyways unless it's something like a towerdive.
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Post Post #44714 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:02 am

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Support Yasuo can do it!
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Post Post #44715 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:33 am

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Voided: didn't say it was worthwhile. Also, Kalista can make any support stop zenith.
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Post Post #44716 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:31 pm

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ok i think i might be sick and tired of zilean
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Post Post #44717 (ISO) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:31 pm

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Last night I had 3 afks in a row. I'm not stomping around about ELO HELL or anything like that, just sayin' that night SUCKED.


On the plus side I laned well in every game, considering. Decided to start playing carry top laners more because my tanks just aren't dragging my teeam through anymore.
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Post Post #44718 (ISO) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:17 pm

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First game of the day. Fourth afk in a row but this guy was actually "lagging" and went 0/6 in the first ten minutes.

I'm now demoted. From 66-ish LP to demoted in four games with AFKs and feeders.

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Post Post #44719 (ISO) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:06 pm

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Second game. Soraka recalled while we did baron, then stood in base and danced while we got slaughtered in a 4v5. Our volibear immediately quit after that.


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Post Post #44720 (ISO) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:03 pm

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might wanna take a break
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Post Post #44721 (ISO) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:46 pm

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I did, dawg. I went to bed and everything.

5 games over the course of 24hours. Every one of them terrible.

I've been playing brothers instead. Less bad.
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Post Post #44722 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:11 am

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i think i will focus on being a good donger player like zoro said rather than diversifying my champ base
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Post Post #44723 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:58 am

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Gold is impossible to win in. Literally fucking impossible.
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Post Post #44724 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:06 pm

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animorpherv1 wrote:Gold is impossible to win in. Literally fucking impossible.


No it isn't, you're just not good enough to do so consistently.
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