Mini 1724: Gameboy Advance Mafia (Abandoned)

[Knuckles]

Don't understand why "I'll try to get people flavor from preferred games" means that you only get one per game.

To be clearer, the setup could be something along the lines of a uPick where we pick games, he gives us characters from games. Or he could have already designed the setup and game choices decide what characters and roles we get.

[Vedith]

Don't understand why "I'll try to get people flavor from preferred games" means that you only get one per game.

Because you gave 3 games, surely that would suggest that you might not get your game.
The only reason for that? 1 per game?

[Vedith]

Don't understand why "I'll try to get people flavor from preferred games" means that you only get one per game.

To be clearer, the setup could be something along the lines of a uPick where we pick games, he gives us characters from games. Or he could have already designed the setup and game choices decide what characters and roles we get.

Ah, okay... I guess that we can dis regard the last comment of me then. I just wanted to check before saying something.

[Knuckles]

A Simple Plan - I thought that his initial vote for random midget while expressing that he didn't like breaking the games was pretty town because it's a ballsy as shit claim to make at the beginning of the game (game is broken, this player is scum, what we did to make the game broken is stupid). The thing that prevents this read from becoming a full town read is that he later unvoted for reasons I'm not really understanding; if he can explain this satisfactorily, will upgrade this.

SoS - We have a long drawn out dynamic with SoS that ends in me focusing on them harder than I do on other players. Not really confident or interested in talking about this read right now; doubt they're getting lynched today so probably not necessary anyways.

Davsto - Vigilante claims are something that come from town an overwhelming majority of the time IMO. I don't think mafia have a full vigilante as one of their power roles; if they do, I don't think davsto claims it off the bat.

[Vedith]

I guess it could be a fake claim

I would think that it is highly likely to be a fake claim.
I didn't even notice he claimed this actually. XD

UNVOTE: Knuckles
VOTE: Random

Why do you think it's highly likely to be a fake claim?

Because I know things.

[Knuckles]

Because I know things.

If you have information on random being more likely scum than not, that's actually something it would be p smart to claim right about now, massclaim advocate or not.

If you don't and just know things, so do I! And I have a gun!

[Knuckles]

Comments on the latest read block?

[Vedith]

If you don't and just know things, so do I! And I have a gun!

Then shoot...

[Vedith]

Comments on the latest read block?

Well I agree with Dav town, and I think I had Grapes as town when I was in here properly last time.
Pept isn't town for me, and I'm not scum.

So your list is a miss match of right and wrong.

[Sound of Silence]

Why are you uncomfortable with random midget?

This game finally comes to life when I'm mostly afk for the day. :/

It might be the kind of thing I jump on and then you (or GiF) talk me down.

In post 25 he sounded ambivalent about the idea of role claiming. Then it looked to me like he was the first player to srsclaim a few posts later.

[Vedith]

His claim is also fake if you ask me.

[GuyInFreezer]

andommidget - I thought being the first person to claim seriously in the massclaim was townish. My reasoning was that scum bulletproof wouldn't be willing to claim immediately, and that the "lynch abilities I'm not claiming" would be something that random midget either claimed because he didn't know any better, or he wouldn't claim them at all and instead would use his lynch abilities in the most anti-town way possible. I'm unsure why SoS is unsure about him but I guess it could be a fake claim and am downgrading until I talk things through with ffery.

That's just fery not me. I have random as lean town bc yes his claiming early and he hates playing town so he tend to do almost nothing as town.

[Knuckles]

Xtoxm - I think that his "let's massclaim" "I was lying about my role btw" is something that's very very unlikely to be coming from scum, I guess I can get into this if need be but I don't really think it's something scum does. Like his immediate unvote of our slot and then pushback on our reads, and I like his expressed excitement about the game getting interesting. This is by far my strongest townread so it's the type of read I'm pretty surprised that people don't see; let me know if I need to make a big post explaining my reasoning in depth here.

Dongempire - Also an incredibly strong town read, I thought his claim in and of itself felt town from how casually he claimed "we're mass claiming? ok, here's my role"; it felt honest and it came at a time where it would be safe for scum to disagree with massclaim and if he was feeling unsure he most definitely would have looked at what other people were doing and that was definitely saying "it's okay for you not to claim!". I like the way he's reading me; he initially had us as strong town and then decided we could be trusted if we hit scum. I like one other thing he's posted, will glance there when I'm back.

Noseferatu - The only point in his favor is that his role is scummy as hell, but if wgeurts didn't give him a role safe claim (which, since I remember reading wgeurts commenting on a Mafia Discussion thread that "fake claiming was half the fun" is doubtful), then Nosferatu could have just claimed his scummy scum role in thread and not realized how terrible it would sound.

I don't like his position on mass claiming; it seems like he claimed because he was forced to, then he outs that he disagrees with a massclaim for legit reasoning - don't see why this happens as town. His only inclinations towards scum hunting are in the early townread on Pepto which doesn't do shit for me and questioning SoS vote on us which also doesn't do shit for us.

[Knuckles]

Well I agree with Dav town, and I think I had Grapes as town when I was in here properly last time.
Pept isn't town for me, and I'm not scum.

So your list is a miss match of right and wrong.

Was hoping you would agree/disagree based on expressed reasoning.

Do you think my position on ASP is bad? What do you think of my three most recent reads?

[Aj The Epic]

Knuckles what are you seeing in davesto?

[Sound of Silence]

andommidget - I thought being the first person to claim seriously in the massclaim was townish. My reasoning was that scum bulletproof wouldn't be willing to claim immediately, and that the "lynch abilities I'm not claiming" would be something that random midget either claimed because he didn't know any better, or he wouldn't claim them at all and instead would use his lynch abilities in the most anti-town way possible. I'm unsure why SoS is unsure about him but I guess it could be a fake claim and am downgrading until I talk things through with ffery.

That's just fery not me. I have random as lean town bc yes his claiming early and he hates playing town so he tend to do almost nothing as town.

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[Knuckles]

Knuckles what are you seeing in davesto?

Vigilante claim.

[Vedith]

Was hoping you would agree/disagree based on expressed reasoning.

Then we have disappointed each other.

I'm not sure about Xtoxm.
Dong - I would think town, although his recent post was stupid.
Nos - As I have high doubt on you as well, I would expect that he is town.

Btw - Are you using your day kill today? I'm not asking who, just if you are using it today.

[Knuckles]

In post 25 he sounded ambivalent about the idea of role claiming. Then it looked to me like he was the first player to srsclaim a few posts later.

What do you think of my Nosferatu point?
I don't mind the early ambivalence because it read less like he was genuinely conflicted and more like he just didn't give a shit.

[Knuckles]

Btw - Are you using your day kill today? I'm not asking who, just if you are using it today.

Game Day or real world day?

[Knuckles]

Then we have disappointed each other.

Oh
Then I guess I'll stop posting explanations.

[Sound of Silence]

Oh also let me do this before I forget about it.

UNVOTE:

[Knuckles]

Knuckles what are you seeing in davesto?

Vigilante claim.

AJ, is there something wrong with this position?
Can you tell me why he claims vigilante as scum?

[Vedith]

Game Day or real world day?

Game day

[Vedith]

Knuckles what are you seeing in davesto?

Vigilante claim.

AJ, is there something wrong with this position?
Can you tell me why he claims vigilante as scum?

So we are going with a town dayvig and a town vigilante?
And we are going with Random actually being BP? (Which he isn't)