Mini 1724: Gameboy Advance Mafia (Abandoned)

[grapes]

Dav why would you shoot the closest thing we have to a doc on N1?

Would be cool to figure out what happened to the scum kill. Only possibilities are No kill (seems unlikely) Fire blocked someone (possible) vedith's kill was blocked by dong (maybe, though would be a shit play on vediths part knowing a blocker is scum reading you relatively hard) scum shot random (meh probs not)

[grapes]

hey xtoxm if you want a claim from me you're gonna have to get it the old fashion way - a good start would be rally some votes by making a case, you'll probably not get very far with 'gut'

[grapes]

Is this game not a bastard?
My role is pretty odd, don't want to reveal how it works yet though.

your predecessor already claimed, who did your slot block?

[Xtoxm]

nacho.

back me up.

[grapes]

bring it on boys

[Xtoxm]

grapes what are your reads

[grapes]

my townblock is dav/vedith/knuckles/xtoxm/aj

everything else is a blob of goop

[grapes]

VOTE: firebringer

[grapes]

your push is making me rethink my read on you a bit, xtoxm, but then again i haven't been going out of my way to be transparent this game

fire's entrance pinged me a bit - ill go into this some if people want

[grapes]

What's the chance of Dav having a 3rd party type alignment? Or is this game too small for that?

terrible post, testing the waters + a bit early to be 3P specing - also don't really get how so many peeps thought the ate tantrum yesterday was town at all

[Starbuck]

I'm sorry that your case on me fell flat, but I don't get how asking a question equates to a terrible post.

[grapes]

I just explained how it's a terrible post. And I don't recall making a case on you.

[Starbuck]

So you're trying to case that all of the below, including the vote, isn't a case?

isod starbuck and yea i could lynch that

she hasn't given any townreads, which feels pretty off

and yea i'll get flack for this but i got super beetlejuice vibes from her showing up directly after the dayvig and got a couple votes

like, it'd be another story if she had an outstanding super town catch up but it was pretty lackluster imo - just a lot of empty comments and like no hard stances taken, in particular didn't like the super waffle on ASP (who to anyone paying attention to the gamestate is pretty much the likeliest wagon to get traction right now)

Trust me, I know. I just logged on and started reading/catching up from where I left off.

that's fine and dandy; but also not the largest issue ive got with you

could you possibly go into who you think is town/scum a bit?

how good do you feel about that ASP vote?

And I don't sense any real resistance to ASP, at all, though. Which worries me some. Yea I was enthusiastic about it earlier but I'm more meh on him now.

Like he hasn't even responded to the prod so it's not like he's thread dodging.

On the other hand I feel some invisible resistance to starbuck. In the form of not many peeps talking about her among other things.

VOTE: starbuck

Subject to change I guess. Like I said I'll be around. It's pretty dependent on her response to me at the end of the day, though.

You could have just asked me from the get go, though, instead of the way that you just went about it.

A bit of pressure brings out alignment. I find it plausible that someone coming off a long hiatus would retain old habits - but giving townreads is a fundamental of mafia and as town you do it almost unconsciously (or at least I do). So if you happened to roll scum your first game back that would kinda fit with how off your approach to this game has felt so far.

unfortunately I don't have the time (or desire really) to meta you to find out for certain

Sound of Silence- town
Vedith - leaning scum
Davsto - leaning scum
Aj The Epic - town

Is there more to these reads? If you've given thoughts before just link posts or w/e.

You don't need pressure to ask a question. That's what I'm saying. If you outright wanted to know where my thoughts on current players are, all you had to do was ask. Instead, you went about using it to try and garner a flimsy case on me. If you don't have the answer, and you never asked to begin with, how can I know what information that you want to see? I don't. I'm not a mind reader. So using that to try and paint me as scum is scummy in, and of, itself.

Without dwelling on the semantics of this. No, that's not what I did at all.

Thinking you're scummy for not giving any townreads up till that point in the game and then asking for your thoughts are two different things. One is pushing you and the other is trying to get a better read on you.

You don't have to explain the game to me either. I know how mafia works. I comprehend that townreads are fundamental, but just because I didn't outright list every player in the game and give my reads doesn't make me scum or scummy. There's plenty of folks who haven't done that either and I don't see you tunneling them. You didn't even look at me until my wagon started.

I'm not just gonna ignore your wagon especially with the limited options we've been given. I wanted my opinion on the record and haven't paid much attention to you up till that point cuz you've been almost a nonentity.

As for Vedith and Davsto, you can look a few posts up for my thoughts on them.

Well, vedith is probably town. Call it gut but, whatever scumtell you pulled off the wiki that you think you've got him pinned with will probably be not all that effective for him. Davsto is a claimed vig, I'm not gonna worry about sorting that slot for a while.

[Starbuck]

Trying to say, not "case."

[Starbuck]

For all that effort, it's hard for me to believe that you don't "recall" it.

[grapes]

Not really? Like I said I wanted to give my thoughts on your slot cuz there wasn't much time till deadline and there didn't look like we had a lot of options to lynch. You can tell the thoughts are kinda scattered.

Put it like this. When I'm 100% confident that you're scum, you'll know.

Like, I'm trying to do other things atm. You'll notice my vote isn't on you.

[grapes]

For all that effort, it's hard for me to believe that you don't "recall" it.

What's your point?

[Aj The Epic]

VOTE: Dave

Pretty sure Dong stated he wanted a NK on Vedith. vedith wasn't rb'd and I have reason to believe that knuckles was the one redirected.

[Starbuck]

For all that effort, it's hard for me to believe that you don't "recall" it.

What's your point?

That you just denied making a case and voting me, based on that flimsiness, when you were the one who pursued it the most.

[grapes]

Actually dong requested vedith to be investigated, not NKed. So dong blocking there still adds up imo. There's no way to know for sure but..

[grapes]

For all that effort, it's hard for me to believe that you don't "recall" it.

What's your point?

That you just denied making a case and voting me, based on that flimsiness, when you were the one who pursued it the most.

So are you calling me scum or not?

Let me know when you're ready to talk about things that actually matter.

[grapes]

Point is, starbuck. You keep pushing this weird semantics angle

"Oh, you made a case on me now you've forgotten about it."

And I'll show you what a case actually looks like.

[Aj The Epic]

Actually dong requested vedith to be investigated, not NKed. So dong blocking there still adds up imo. There's no way to know for sure but..

You're still ignoring the second part of my post.

[grapes]

I'm confused how knuckles would be redirected to dong, when they claimed one shot dayvig?

[Aj The Epic]

No, Dong forced all actions at knuckles to him.