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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:35 pm

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I see.

Do you think ckd attacking me over sharing townreads feels genuine? Because that sounds like one of those fake reasons to scumread someone and I understand different times are different and it could be a playstyle clash, but I think his push on me is really weird especially considering you asked for them.
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:36 pm

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I think starbuck's play is genuine even if I disagree with almost every read she's said
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:39 pm

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That response is subpar for me. You're making an objectively wrong assumption. Especially considering:

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Spiffeh wrote:Wow you vote for me instead of my answering my question to you I am insulted.

This is your defense to Marquis? Seriously? If you don't think it's a great case, explain how it's not a great case. I can't gauge what you think of him here.

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I don't see any wiggle room for what you "assume".

"have my thoughts" and "respond to" are two incredibly different things. To me, SC's wagon is Mollie doing the legwork and everyone else following. Marquiz even admits it in 251 as well as NS in 257. Bins certainly doesn't have one. Your case in 223 isn't good at all. 223 is nothing but a history lesson that you've still gotten all wrong.

The most I care about the SC wagon is that it probably will prevent you from getting lynched. What's with forcing this SC stuff down my throat when I just think you're scum? Is it that hard to comprehend?
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:50 pm

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notscience wrote:I see.

Do you think ckd attacking me over sharing townreads feels genuine? Because that sounds like one of those fake reasons to scumread someone and I understand different times are different and it could be a playstyle clash, but I think his push on me is really weird especially considering you asked for them.

I did some homework and in his last completed game I could find (BSG mafia) he didn't throw nearly as much of a fit about people stating their town reads
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:58 pm

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I don't know about his recent games, but ckd's general play so far this game seems to remind me of his normal ckd play. He seems pretty sincere so far.
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:10 pm

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hey guyz, how about letting me answer the question since I am the 1 that notty asked? I think notty wants to see what I will say cos it is part of how he reads me.

notscience wrote:I see.

Do you think ckd attacking me over sharing townreads feels genuine? Because that sounds like one of those fake reasons to scumread someone and I understand different times are different and it could be a playstyle clash, but I think his push on me is really weird especially considering you asked for them.


ckd strikes me as sincere, during our exchanges I really got the impression that he was trying to understand where I was coming from. this canNOT be the first time that you have heard some1 complain about coughing up townreads too early for what are in their minds are shit reasons. I disagree with it obvsly but I have heard such complaints before. I think what isbugging him is that he saw it come from 2 different pple close to the same time and it freaked him out. I think his push on this is coming more from a place of trying to understand cos I really don't think he does.

catboi wrote:I think starbuck's play is genuine even if I disagree with almost every read she's said


are you fucking kidding me

he didn't even read what I said how the FUCK can you call that genuine?

can we plz ban all users who use the word "genuine" starting from here on out
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:11 pm

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AJ I don't really understand what that quoted post has to do with anything. Could you elaborate?

The issue I'm having with you is that you seemed to approach the situation with your mind already made up. You point out my inconsistencies (that I later clarified) and pay no attention to SC's inconsistencies that he refused to explain after I had asked him to multiple times. (And now we'll never know!) It's fine if you don't buy my explanation but you don't get to give SC a free pass for doing worse shit and making no attempt to justify it.

Aj The Epic wrote:"have my thoughts" and "respond to" are two incredibly different things. To me, SC's wagon is Mollie doing the legwork and everyone else following. Marquiz even admits it in 251 as well as NS in 257. Bins certainly doesn't have one. Your case in 223 isn't good at all. 223 is nothing but a history lesson that you've still gotten all wrong.

SO WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY THIS? Where were these opinions when SC was being wagoned? Why did it have to be forced out of you? If you truly thought I was scum and saw me pushing SC, you should at the very least not have to have your arm twisted when you're asked about a wagon your largest scum read is supporting wholeheartedly.

Can we please wagon this too?
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:19 pm

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Spiffeh wrote:AJ I don't really understand what that quoted post has to do with anything. Could you elaborate?

The issue I'm having with you is that you seemed to approach the situation with your mind already made up. You point out my inconsistencies (that I later clarified) and pay no attention to SC's inconsistencies that he refused to explain after I had asked him to multiple times. (And now we'll never know!) It's fine if you don't buy my explanation but you don't get to give SC a free pass for doing worse shit and making no attempt to justify it.

Aj The Epic wrote:"have my thoughts" and "respond to" are two incredibly different things. To me, SC's wagon is Mollie doing the legwork and everyone else following. Marquiz even admits it in 251 as well as NS in 257. Bins certainly doesn't have one. Your case in 223 isn't good at all. 223 is nothing but a history lesson that you've still gotten all wrong.

SO WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY THIS? Where were these opinions when SC was being wagoned? Why did it have to be forced out of you? If you truly thought I was scum and saw me pushing SC, you should at the very least not have to have your arm twisted when you're asked about a wagon your largest scum read is supporting wholeheartedly.

Can we please wagon this too?


How am I supposed to explain that you cannot 'assume' something when it's explicitly stated otherwise?

And why didn't I say it? A.) Haven't been here and B.) you didn't ask that. You wanted me to respond to his cases, which is you tying me to SC. You're twisting my arm in an attempt to cuff me to SC and that doesn't fly well.
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:22 pm

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pirate mollie wrote:are you fucking kidding me

he didn't even read what I said how the FUCK can you call that genuine?

can we plz ban all users who use the word "genuine" starting from here on out

I mean I can't really point to anything specific (that's not hopelessly mundane) but it feels like a real effort at scumhunting. I'm slightly prebiased because of their first post but it comes across like she's really trying to go through the thread and observe/interpret/react to what's going on, while she thinks differently from me I can look at her posts and see how a player might think what she's saying. I think she's not seeing eye to eye with you? It doesn't look like a malicious disagreement where she's trying to pick on you. I think if someone didn't buy the thing about Coug not interacting with people then a response like hers makes sense

I know that's a really wordvomity and vague explanation but I'm just not seeing whatever you are.
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:28 pm

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@AJ You don't have a response to my second paragraph?

My problem isn't your activity, it was your refusal to comment on the SC cases.

You seem really concerned with being tied to SC. Apparently your own well being is more important than sharing your thoughts.
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:30 pm

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I've heard complaints like that before yes mollie but it just sounded off in my head which is why i brought it up.

I'm currently leaning towards you being town.

But on the same note, townreading you/bins/marquis in this playerlist makes me worry I'm biased in them.
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:26 pm

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curiouskarmadog wrote:shooting Nex?

uh

what, in your opinion has Nexus been like a paragon of towniness or something?

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Papa Zito wrote:guys Davsto needs some motivation can people plz provide him some motivation

I don't think wagoning the new guy for not knowing what to say is particularly productive.

What the fuck is this. Way to go you managed to be both completely condescending and unhelpful in one sentence.



I'm gonna continue the conversation with Bins once she's around a keyboard, the phone stuff is hurting my head too much.
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:30 pm

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Papa Zito I hope you stick around you make me laugh.
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:33 pm

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bruh we both town we got this dw
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:34 pm

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But do you have matching bracelets?
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:35 pm

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What the fuck is this. Way to go you managed to be both completely condescending and unhelpful in one sentence.


Wait when did JD sign up

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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:35 pm

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Look at this shit.

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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:57 pm

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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:02 pm

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Spiffeh wrote:@AJ You don't have a response to my second paragraph?

My problem isn't your activity, it was your refusal to comment on the SC cases.

You seem really concerned with being tied to SC. Apparently your own well being is more important than sharing your thoughts.


Why should I respond to a pot/kettle statement? I NEVER refused to comment on the SC case, you just were trying to make me respond in his steed. You're packaging the two of us because I scum read you. Hello? Who the fuck is scummy for this? You for saying I should respond to his cases and thinking it's scum that I'm not or me for pointing out this fallacious garbage you're spewing?

Call me concerned, I guess. You're trying so hard force this, and then not explaining why you lied about SC's case on you.
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:10 pm

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catboi wrote:
pirate mollie wrote:are you fucking kidding me

he didn't even read what I said how the FUCK can you call that genuine?

can we plz ban all users who use the word "genuine" starting from here on out

I mean I can't really point to anything specific (that's not hopelessly mundane) but it feels like a real effort at scumhunting. I'm slightly prebiased because of their first post but it comes across like she's really trying to go through the thread and observe/interpret/react to what's going on, while she thinks differently from me I can look at her posts and see how a player might think what she's saying. I think she's not seeing eye to eye with you? It doesn't look like a malicious disagreement where she's trying to pick on you. I think if someone didn't buy the thing about Coug not interacting with people then a response like hers makes sense

I know that's a really wordvomity and vague explanation but I'm just not seeing whatever you are.


hhmm, there is a distinct possibility that starbuck and I have different interpretations of "interactions" cos I don't count the fluff. I still say she is reading the game on a surface level.

notscience wrote:I've heard complaints like that before yes mollie but it just sounded off in my head which is why i brought it up.

I'm currently leaning towards you being town.

But on the same note, townreading you/bins/marquis in this playerlist makes me worry I'm biased in them.


I wld let that particular thing rest and wait to see what else you notice. I think it is a legit worry and I understand it especially after ff7. just try to work with what you have right now and go from there.

speaking of paranoia, when you and reck have played together do you usually scumread him?
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:12 pm

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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:14 pm

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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:16 pm

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pirate mollie notscience what do you guys think of AJ?

I can't tell if I'm in the wrong here or not because he seems so confident.
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:18 pm

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I personally think aj is town but I don't have a particular reason why.
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:26 pm

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pirate mollie wrote:speaking of paranoia, when you and reck have played together do you usually scumread him?


notscience wrote:no


are you phone posting? cos if it is possible if you cld quote what you are responding to, that wld be great. it leaves a trail in case any1 decides to look stuff up later.

okay so that is weird, cos that used to be a tell for me?/him? in that whenever we played f2f I wld always scumread him when he was town and townread him when he was scum and it got to the point where I wld call him scum and vote him and he wld yell, "I am conftown! mollie just called me scum. i am conftown.". it was funny.

so that is pretty weird since he assigned that to you.
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