Prozac's Basic Theme 4 - Murder in Marlowe - OVER!

[pirate mollie]

I don't understand what part of this is hard to understand

I have already accepted that the links do not show what I thought they showed

What I am disputing is that you are suggesting that I threw out those links after the fact to justify some meta that I deliberately made up

Which requires the premise that I deliberately made up false meta on you

I want to know why it's more likely that I would do something that pointlessly dumb than that I simply misremembered how our previous encounters of multiple years ago went

jesus christ cdb

I am not saying that you

deliberately

went in with the intention of lying about meta once you started talking I have said this like 3 times and you keep acting like I haven't said it at all. I think you pulled 2 games out of your ass that might have had some vague recollection of friction between us and tried to present that as meta case thinking no1 wld bother to check.

the only thing that I like that you have done that gives me pause is pointing how lame star's vote is in the middle of our spat. its bad. its really bad.

also nexus has not done jack shit after saying he wld this morning what is up with that. (I don't expect you to answer for him, but if you have any insight I wld love to hear it.)

[pirate mollie]

I am not responding to any1 else's posts if they contain the word "lying" or asking dumbshit that has already been answered and I am looking at you catboi.

Well if you have answered it I haven't understood it. Is it that hard to help me out?

mebbe making the font obnoxiously big will help

1 and 2 are mutually exclusive, I am not quite seeing the correlation that you keep trying to draw there. its not even a misrememory,

that insinuates premeditated intent which is not what I am saying at all

,

I think you just didn't care

.

I pray thee to the font gods

[Starbuck]

the only thing that I like that you have done that gives me pause is pointing how lame star's vote is in the middle of our spat. its bad. its really bad.

Why am I not surprised? Still not gonna respond, though, right?

[Starbuck]

Or are you still "distracted by this argument"?

[Spiffeh]

disliking the distinct lack of spiffeh in these pages

also bins gives me heebies

Btw Reck I find it odd that you say this and my first post after this you yell at me for disrupting discussion or something.
And I wasn't even gone that long anyway? Idk why you singled me out like that when I've had a pretty consistent level of activity.

[Spiffeh]

(Btw this is me reading pages 18-23 more thoroughly)

ckd's vote on notscience doesn't make any sense to me. Who cares if he was asked to give town reads or not?

Also ckd asking to be meta'd shows he's aware of his meta which makes it useless anyway.

[Spiffeh]

Yeah Davsto can be scum half of his ISO is making excuses about why he isn't contributing.

[catboi]

@mollie: Okay. I had trouble reading the orgiginal quote striped post. Still, I don't think I can see what he's doing as a plausible scum play and your response seems disproportionate. The idea of making up a meta on someone as scum just seems very much implausible, I think he'd base it on legitimate memories. I also don't know that him being sloppy and misremembering is any more likely to come from him as scum than as town - he'd be just as susceptible to it either way. That your interpretation assumes he

must

be lying is really strange.

He's also right in that you're focusing on the meta bit of his post and not his assessment of what you've done in-thread, which is what's actually important. It feels like canned outrage.

I debated in my head a few dozens times whether not not I was going to actually do this when I was making this post:

VOTE: pirate mollie


Also, just realized I was mixing up starbuck and blackberry in my head and that was what I was referring to with talking about their first post. I feel dumb. I'd need to go over her again but she still hasn't said anything that struck me as bad.

[Spiffeh]

Like I actually despise "I'll do this later" posts because it lets scum skate by as townies focus on others and forget about the guy avoiding the thread.

[pirate mollie]

Or are you still "distracted by this argument"?

cdb said that, not me. I don't particularly feel inclined to respond to you until you stop acting like a douche. ignoring/avoidance is the best way to deal with such behaviours I have found, that is why cdb is freaking out about me cos I used to never let this shit go but it is prozack's game and I don't want to shit on it cos prozack is my friend. so mostly I am just ignoring your anklebiting bullshit cos that is basically what it is. your play has been surface, it still is surface and I really don't see it getting any better cos you are completely unaware that there is something wrong.

but here goes since you insist!

your posts are like nails on chalkboard and make my eyes ears and nose bleed. I probably have blood oozing out of my armpits and nailbeds by now cos I actually try to read your posts and discern the motivation behind them. you are the exact type of player that I kind of despise, you grovel before anything that you perceive bigger than you and try to step on anything that you perceive to be smaller than you.

you used a lot of words to say, "I don't think it is a playstyle approach clash but I don't understand marquis's playstyle approach!" in 1 of your walls and you don't even see anything wrong with it. like in your world that logic makes sense and I look at it and know that any engagement with you will most likely be fruitless, unenjoyable and not further my understanding of the gamestate in any way until I have a more definitive poe list.

so if it seems like I am ignoring you it is cos I am. it isn't cos OMG I AM SCUM AND I AM SOOPER SKEERED OF UR AWSUM SCUMHUNTING POWAHZ its cos I think that your scumhunting is either woefully outdated or super scummy and I am content to let things unfold naturally that way i don't have to deal with you that much.

[pirate mollie]

@mollie: Okay. I had trouble reading the orgiginal quote striped post. Still, I don't think I can see what he's doing as a plausible scum play and your response seems disproportionate.

The idea of making up a meta on someone as scum

didn't read past this except to note that you are voting me for something that I have told you that I am not doing. like I even used the shouty font.

I used to love this game.

[catboi]

Okay, I didn't word that great. But you said he lied about meta, with the idea being he just sort of made a casual statement about him fighting with you in the past? I'm still not seeing where this comes from him being scum.

[catboi]

I'm not trying to be obtuse I swear

[pirate mollie]

Like I actually despise "I'll do this later" posts because it lets scum skate by as townies focus on others and forget about the guy avoiding the thread.

the problem that I have with dave!scum is that I find it hard to believe that there wld not at least be 1 scum coaching him through it. he looks very much alone to me. scummy as fuck, but alone.

if he is on a team with no1 but older players or players who are awol, I might believe it. if he is scum then this game might be easier than I thought!

[pirate mollie]

Okay, I didn't word that great. But you said he lied about meta, with the idea being he just sort of made a casual statement about him fighting with you in the past? I'm still not seeing where this comes from him being scum.

I initially said he was lying and then amended my wording cos when I thought about it and I don't think that is what scum!cdb wld set out to do.

toss out games where we had some friction in and not the good kind, yes, I can see him doing that as scum, which I have already stated a multitude of times

and I am unsure on him. I think I might have seen a glimmer of towniness but eh, the initial vote and trying to spin whatever I say into some web of deceit is just not sitting well with me espeically since I am being super transparent and wearing my heart on my sleeve.

its like I type words and somehow you don't understand what they mean.

I used to love this game.

[MattP]

I believe you are obvtown and people are either being lazy/obtuse or opportunistic and going after an emotional target

I just also am watching the democratic debates, but love&support

[Spiffeh]

Marquis I hope you plan on elaborating on your townread of me because the way you built up to it made it seem like you had something big in the works and now I am just disappointed.

CDB is town af.

Catboi seriously something is up with you. You have been so wishy-washy this entire game it's really unsettling. Things like this:

I debated in my head a few dozens times whether not not I was going to actually do this when I was making this post:

I'm not trying to be obtuse I swear

(and that's only on this page) make me think you're playing scared and are afraid of any backlash you may receive. My experience with town you is exactly the opposite. Like this is such a dramatic change in posting style I don't know what I'm supposed to assume other than that you're NOT town.

@mollie can we even be sure there's day talk?

[catboi]

its like I type words and somehow you don't understand what they mean.

I used to love this game.

I'm sorry, I swear I'm really trying to understand. You shouldn't be getting so worked up on day 1 of a game. :<

Ultimately though I think he's just as likely to have had a vague/inaccurate memory as town and I don't think it matters at all so I'll just accept I'm not seeing eye to eye with you.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Nexus

ckd's last few posts were maybe a little better though I still don't really townread him

Catboi seriously something is up with you. You have been so wishy-washy this entire game it's really unsettling.

Spiffeh, I am trying to reduce my intensity level to like 40% of what I've done in the past because I don't want to stress myself and don't want to be a drag. I found playing the way I did wasn't fun so I wanted to relax more. I don't think I've been wishy-washy at all except on this mollie vote just now. I think I've been pretty clear about how I'm reading people.

[Spiffeh]

Hmm ok I can buy that.

[pirate mollie]

I believe you are obvtown and people are either being lazy/obtuse or opportunistic and going after an emotional target

I just also am watching the democratic debates, but love&support

<3

thank you matty. I am glad I got the chance to know you outside of a forum mafia game.

I am going to try to emotionally unplug for a bit.

[MattP]

A big part of why I think you're town is that I can't imagine this coming from a disingenuous place:

mollie why did you unvote matt?

cos in the last forum game that matty and I played together it was with my hydra with dgb and matty thought that what dgb was posting was coming from me so he wrote a 3 paragraph essay detailing the reasons as to why he hated me and when dgb corrected him all he said was "oh".

we have since met in person and I adore him and trollie too but I am not sure where we stand in games but I am sure he wld have an easier time sinking his teeth into the game w/o me personally breathing down his neck. I am just giving him space, it doesn't automatically change my read on the slot.

But I also think your posting in general is genuine and actually a lot more straightforward than usual, but not in a way I would call scummy. Not that I can recall you being scum in a game with me before. I more so mean it as just a compliment re: your play so far here

[MattP]

Also I fully acknowledge I'm supposed to expound on my scumreads but I'm not going to until tomorrow

[MattP]

Actually, sorry for all the posting but

VOTE: Flameaxe

Flame's posting is vitriolic and silencing to other players by mocking content, most notably of Marquis when Marquis was providing a clearly protown drive that influenced the beginning of real gameplay (not that Marquis's push on SC was correct, but Marquis was a vocal protown player that was posting content).

He's been generally over-aggressive and demeaning to multiple players in the game including Starbucks, and PM, with minimal, but Flameaxe-directed provocation.

I have zero qualms with Davsto votes. I like scoug more but this is some questionable inactivity from dav

god you are disappointing

Sorry to disappoint, shit-senpai

Why do you like the votes? Just because of his inactivity? That's kinda shady.

I'm not sure you know what the word inactivity means. His ISO isn't inactivity.

You didn't say ISO. You said inactivity.

I have zero qualms with Davsto votes. I like scoug more but this is some questionable inactivity from dav

You have no qualms with votes on Davsto, but you make it seem like Davsto is a better vote because of his inactivity. Why?

Okay so you're an idiot. Got it. I never said anything about Davsto being a better vote, if that was the case, wouldn't my vote be different? Did you leave your common sense at the door or what? Arguing ISO vs not ISO is idiotic. He's posting and doing fuck-all actively.

Go start a semantics pissing contest somewhere else.

I also, as a side note that is less significant, dislike his general attitude towards Papa Zito.

Zito: Thoughts on bins being on the ScouggyP wagon?

I don't believe you really care about Zito's response to this question considering that Papa Zito and you both have posted multiple times since you asked this and you haven't pursued. What was the significance of even asking this question?

[MattP]

I'm scumreading Davsto and Aj to lesser extents / the effectiveness of pushing a Davsto wagon right now is insignificant and he will provide content or be replaced so there's no reason to pursue him atm

[Flameaxe]

Good luck with that.