Mini 1726: Netherspite's Semi-Open Role Madness [Game Over]

[SilverWolf]

SW <3

Hi Spiffeh

<3

[Ankamius]

Ankamius

's last words:

Mass Murderer needs to claim and work with town to start PoEing the scum. Other 3rd Party Killing needs to work with town without claiming. Don't let ika live to endgame under any circumstances. Finish massclaim tomorrow and come up with conclusions yourself; DO NOT let ika do the analysis alone.

Lynch the jailer if they execute anyone.

My reads are pretty obvious. This is fully salvageable as long as town don't do any really stupid moves and think before voting.

[Netherspite]

It seems I made another Mod error and didn't really notify

ika

about him being roleblocked.
I was sure I did.
Sorry.

I'll definitely double check stuff next time I mod this.
Also I'll release the scum PT, thanks

Shiro

and

Titus

.

I will post all the Court messages and votes with their authors tomorrow.

[Shiro]

Ankamius

's last words:

Mass Murderer needs to claim and work with town to start PoEing the scum. Other 3rd Party Killing needs to work with town without claiming. Don't let ika live to endgame under any circumstances. Finish massclaim tomorrow and come up with conclusions yourself; DO NOT let ika do the analysis alone.

Lynch the jailer if they execute anyone.

My reads are pretty obvious. This is fully salvageable as long as town don't do any really stupid moves and think before voting.

I would have missed it regardless of alignment xD

[Shiro]

like I probably read it but totally forgot

[Ankamius]

[Netherspite]

Mafia PT: here

[Netherspite]

@Shiro

By the way, you wondered why the jail PT is called "Jail 1".
It was named like that because there could be more regardless of whether you're the only Jailor/Kidnapper in the game or not. You could make another jailing tomorrow.
However, I believe that I should give them random numbers (131-871-234) rather than 1-2-3 to avoid any extra information based on the numbers of consecutive jail PTs.

[Ankamius]

Or just use random words.

[Aristophanes]

Ya the framer specualtion was a left feild that if i was town owuld of rammed lynched you for

that shouldn't have been able to happen, either

really it wasn't in aristophanes' best interest to vote with you, so i have no idea what the fuck happened there

Actualy it was. Ari would be cornered as arson in a heatbeat by the massclaim and also being an arson, removing confimred town or potential confirmed town is a + for arson

really the only joy i got out of this game was aristophanes getting dick-slapped in the face by cruel, random fate on night 1

I was so glad about that too

Anti, I'm sorry that I did that to you. I knew I wasn't the NK and I knew I had little suspicion on me. But with the massclaim in effect I also had to get rid of conftown to win in the end.

I targetted Ika, as I said, to gain town's trust and work with them against the scumteam. This way, I could prime whomever they wanted, ensuring they weren't the lynch that day. This would potentially lead to town hunting town, not scum, until I flamed all the doused people. At that point, if there were still a scum left, I would obfuscate until they had to be the lynch leading to my win. This is so long as town let me live, but at that point, they basically had to to survive.

As for the dickslap, I still have a bruise. XD

[Davsto]

Anyway I'ma just gonna pimp PUN MAFIA a bit more because 2 pre-ins left guyz! Super cool and stuffs and

PUNS

!

[Jeanne11]

Anyway I'ma just gonna pimp PUN MAFIA a bit more because 2 pre-ins left guyz! Super cool and stuffs and

PUNS

!

I join dat. Lemme /pre in.

[Jeanne11]

And I will soon host my own first game too, then when that is done, I'll be able to achieve my true goal of hosting Detective Conan mini and then large, which is why I joined in the first place.

[Netherspite]

And I will soon host my own first game too, then when that is done, I'll be able to achieve my true goal of hosting Detective Conan mini and then large, which is why I joined in the first place.

gl on getting there
Modding is fun.

[TellTaleHeart]

Thanks for the game Netherspite! ^_^

(By the way, love Adventure Time and your avi.)

[Aristophanes]

@Davsto,
Relevant to the conversation at the end of the last game, pre-flip, post-hammer shenanigans.
Why the game is still in motion until flip

[Jeanne11]

that awkward moment when you're surrounded by mafia and your only ally wtf's you......

[Netherspite]

Thanks for the game Netherspite! ^_^

(By the way, love Adventure Time and your avi.)

I find you acceptable!

Thanks for playing! Hope to see you in my next games

[ika]

Anyway I'ma just gonna pimp PUN MAFIA a bit more because 2 pre-ins left guyz! Super cool and stuffs and

PUNS

!

Ill do it if you sign for my large thats in signups right now

Extends to anyone who wants to have smoe more fun

[TellTaleHeart]

also i do want to aplogize to ank and tth+anti for lynching you gusy, you were confirmed town but had to play towards my alignemtn on that aspect.

I did fell bad come the end of it abotu lynchign you guys

It's alright. ^_^

I hope y'all don't blacklist me. I know Anti+TTH were considering it.

Awww.... I'm never blacklisting you Titus. I love you too much. I'll just ask my doctor to up the dosage on my beta blocker.

lmaooo

@Titus, I didn't pick up on anything,
don't think my head was every properly "in the game."

I was just like "o...okay."

I'm sorry. I don't think I made personal attacks. Where did I make you feel like shit?

To clarify: there was a lot of emotion being thrown around and it sorta got the better of me. I got overwhelmed by so many emotions because at the time I was thinking you were town so it was just adfsbilufbisffbialuhdflidub in my head and ajsdbisufbidndsnfljigehilgn got the better of me.

Not your fault, you played as necessary, don't feel bad~

I hope everything's OK for you in real life land. :S

mostly... i'm frustrated that my reads were dead on and scum miraculously got a magical, improbable pr that let them p much dayvig me.

if i was outmaneuvered politically or if scum fooled me i'd be a lot less of a sore loser than i am now.

<3 Anti <3

Anti my heart skipped a beat when you named as all XD though I was honest, you were scumreading me for stuff I do as town to

I see people saying these kinds of things all the time in postgame discussions and I think it's a really crappy and unsportsmanlike thing to say, Shiro. The insinuation is "I was scum and you called me scum but you

really

didn't catch me as scum." I get that you're trying to protect your ego about your scum game, but it robs us of our due credit for having the good read. The fact of the matter is that you were playing toward a scum win condition, it showed in your posting, and we picked up on it. Statements like the one I quoted are just ridiculous because you don't really

know

what you'd do as town. Because you weren't town.

[Runner]

Titus for MVP. By the time I "claimed" I'd iso'd you several times to make sure I wasn't screwing up anything I was being indirectly told to do/not do.

Sorry guys I didn't mean to be such a low quantity (and quality) contributor, this game just started at a bad time for me. I'm lucky my scumbuddies were so awesome! You guys nailed it. With some help from ika, of course.

PS. The jail topic, I only glimpsed at the scum PT (your pregame discussions) briefly, meaning to come back to it later, but I no longer had access to it by nightfall, since I was in jail. I couldn't remember exactly what you said the code was for there being another jailor, except that there was one, which is why I wtf'd a bit in there. Sorry Shiro.

Thanks a lot for modding Nether!

[Titus]

Runner your original claim was cit, which would have been turbo lynch.

[TellTaleHeart]

When you're complaining about lack of balance in a game with Role-Madness kinda roles randomly generated in all sorts of possibilities, you're doing something wrong.

I disagree. I don't think role madness has to mean unbalanced or unfair.

I like the roles for this game, but maybe there could be some sort of "balancing system" like C9++ and JK9++ have.

[ika]

When you're complaining about lack of balance in a game with Role-Madness kinda roles randomly generated in all sorts of possibilities, you're doing something wrong.

I disagree. I don't think role madness has to mean unbalanced or unfair.

I like the roles for this game, but maybe there could be some sort of "balancing system" like C9++ and JK9++ have.

wee in sc2 mafia mod they have a thing called a weight system now where it can generate the probabilty of a seid role appreand and change the odds of a role appreaing

i could prob get the math behind it if i wanted to but im not that far into it

[Netherspite]

When you're complaining about lack of balance in a game with Role-Madness kinda roles randomly generated in all sorts of possibilities, you're doing something wrong.

I disagree. I don't think role madness has to mean unbalanced or unfair.

I like the roles for this game, but maybe there could be some sort of "balancing system" like C9++ and JK9++ have.

Actually the setup is balanced

if

we consider statistically significant games count.
A single game can be extremely unbalanced but after say 1000 games I bet the chances of mafia & town win would be pretty much equal.
It is disadvantage of being so random.
However it has an advantage as well - every game is different despite having the same setup.
There can be really funny and unexpected role combinations and they may affect each other in unusual ways.