Prozac's Basic Theme 4 - Murder in Marlowe - OVER!

[catboi]

notscience - 5 - Nexus, Zito, Davsto, Flameaxe, scot

Nexus's vote is for stupid, silly reasons, and I trust his reads on the game worth nothing right now. So far as I can tell it's because he told bins to do thins or die, but in nexus's estimation, notscience hasn't done much himself.

Zito is sheeping that. Nothing else given.

Davsto is nothing. His vote is actually possibly the best, because he thinks notscience contradicted his reads, but I think the progression there doesn't feel unnatural and the fact he changed his reads rather than sticking to what he said earlier likely means his feelings are evolving with the thread.

flameaxe is sheeping off davsto's post. Still think he's town but nothing here.

and scotmany didn't like notscience saying he was ignoring people? Not sure why he's voting there.



This isn't a good wagon and it needs to be put down.

Also want to note that while I liked the way zito was questioning people early in the thread, he hasn't done much at all since.

[Marquis]

Marquis can you refresh my memory on who your town reads are again?

thanks for asking actually, it's been a while and this reminded me that i do have the time to at the very least sort a minimal-detail readslist

DEFINITELY TOWN

17. marquis
10. notscience
11. curiouskarmadog

TOWN

15. spiffeh
12. catboi

TOWN FOR TODAY (WON'T BOTHER CONSIDERING LYNCHING, BARRING MAJOR GAMESTATE THINGS)

4. pirate mollie
7. Davsto - literally just because fuck yall i'm not dealing with the whole potential "lynch what we don't understand" thing that might be going through the subconscious of some town players
13. Papa Zito
14. Starbuck -
18. Bins

NOT SURE, OR EFFECTIVELY NULL

1. Flameaxe - non-alignment indicative, but distracting, dickishness
2. mykonian replacing Blackberry - want to note that i liked BB's, like, one post? but then myko came in and honestly i haven't been attempting to read him much but i'll admit that mollie's scumread here makes me oddly tense, however irrational that is considering i don't even know for sure about my mollie read anymore
9. Nexus - ...i had thoughts on this slot. reminder to ISO again because i forget, but i definitely had -something- on this

TO BE SORTED, OR ACTUALLY NULL SO FAR

5. ChannelDelibird
8. AJ the Epic (i think this was replaced - help??)
16. scotmany12

MIGHT BE SCUM?? IDK IT'S RECK BUT MAYBE I GAVE HIM TOO MUCH FOCUS BECAUSE I DIDN'T EXPECT THE BUDDYING

6. xRECKONERx

I SCUMREAD BOTH PLAYERS IN THIS SLOT LIKE WHOA

3. MattP replacing StrangerCoug

if you have issues with my category division, this isn't meant to impress everyone. this is actually just me trying to keep my own record of in-the-moment opinions because it's been a while since i've really sunk my teeth into this.

actually, move myko up to "town for today". i liked blackberry enough to not want to deal with too much of that right now. gotta limit this now too

[catboi]

Hey Zito, still scumreading Davsto?

[Papa Zito]

yeh that can be lynched or shot, either way

[Porochaz]

I am away for the next 36 hours, if I can drop in to give you guys a quick votecount I will.

[catboi]

But you're comfortable sharing the wagon with him, then?

[Papa Zito]

Why wouldn't I be?

[Bins]

"What I said to Spiff has nothing to do with you"

when you said the "fact you admit to it" what post of his were you referring to?

The one I quoted?!

He asked what I thought of a contradiction Dav brought up, I was like "This post?" because I was gonna say in that post I didn't see a contradiction, but he took it back and was like "Nah, b, I was wrong there was no contradiction" before I even said anything.

That's pretty town

[catboi]

Why wouldn't I be?

Would make some people nervous. The fact you don't find davsto pushing notscience or their interactions worthy of comment has me raising my eyebrow, though.

[scotmany12]

@nottty
why do you need to ask mollie who to wagon? Why can't you take a stance on your own?

My opinion at the time was disinterest in almost every leading wagon and I don't want to start a vanity wagon.

And all of notscience's posts have addressed mollie and only mollie and he is making no effort to engage anyone else.

This is just awful. He doesn't like the leading wagons, so instead of doing something about it, he asks mollie to. He isn't taking any stance at all. Which also concerns me that he is now voting for matt after voting for davstro, since at the time they were fairly leading wagons.

This is my leading reason, catboi. At the time he expressed interest in wagoning me, he had just unvoted Matt. He had clearly expressed interest in lynching MattP before that, but at his unvote, MattP was maybe town to him. What did Matt do to make him change his position, and then what did Matt do to make notty think he is scum again? And I'm not content on his explanation for needing mollie so he wouldn't start a vanity wagon. Going from one wagon with two votes to another is going to be gamechanging? If he was really suspicious of me, why wouldn't he push it?

I also disagree with you in that his response has been townish. His reads are all over the place and not things I understand, considering he has only mainly been interacting with mollie (i have no idea where his belief that CDB is scum is coming from). I don't like his defense of how people who have played with him/know him are off the wagon, as if that instantly discredits the wagon.

P-EDIT: A. Scum can bush. B. We don't know who many scum groups we are dealing with. C. Scummy players being on a wagon does not instantly discredit said wagon.

[scotmany12]

EBWOP: Bus, not bush....

[catboi]

Right, okay. I can understand disliking that post but I'm not entirely sure asking to sheep there isn't a playstyle decision, rather than an alignment one. I care less about the reads list and more the overall feel of his response, this is somewhat of a gut thing so it would take some time for me to justify. (I actually just noticed his reads list did something I don't like but it's not something that would make me re-think)


BTW, I wasn't implying davsto being on the wagon discredits it. I am saying that a lack of commentary on what he's doing is very odd given the reads there.

[notscience]

B. We don't know who many scum groups we are dealing with.

...Are you seriously specing multiball on day 1?

[notscience]

I understand it's in response to why people should be okay with my wagon but why is this even crossing your mind

[Marquis]

pretty sure this being prozac's game means not multiball

sk at the most

[notscience]

I know it's probably not either because I don't think prozac is that much of a sadist but I'm bothered by him speccing it

[mykonian]

marq, why is ckd in the def town pile?

[Papa Zito]

I know it's probably not either because I don't think prozac is that much of a sadist but I'm bothered by him speccing it

Theory questions get theory answers.


duh

[scotmany12]

I don't know what you mean by speccing. Im saying its a possibility. In his other three theme games, Chaz use a mafia and sk in one mini, and just mafia in another mini. He used two mafia groups in his third theme, which was larger.

I'm saying scummy people being on a wagon doesn't not discredit it when we don't know how many scum groups there are. I don't see why you have a problem with that.

And what happened inbetween you unvoting Matt, saying he might be town, to voting for him again and expressing your desire for his lynch? Inbetween that, Matt had only made like 8 posts, quite a few of them being him saying he would catch up.

[pirate mollie]

I am away for the next 36 hours, if I can drop in to give you guys a quick votecount I will.

do you have a back-up mod? can you ask patrick, fenny or quadzypants to do vcs? and keep up with the game so you don't have to worry about it?

[pirate mollie]

marquis I am really not understanding how or why you thought blackberry was town. and to say that zito is experienced so "OMG CLD BE SCUM" doesn't match up when blackberry is a bit more?

[pirate mollie]

I don't know what you mean by speccing. Im saying its a possibility. In his other three theme games, Chaz use a mafia and sk in one mini, and just mafia in another mini. He used two mafia groups in his third theme, which was larger.

I'm saying scummy people being on a wagon doesn't not discredit it when we don't know how many scum groups there are. I don't see why you have a problem with that.

And what happened inbetween you unvoting Matt, saying he might be town, to voting for him again and expressing your desire for his lynch? Inbetween that, Matt had only made like 8 posts, quite a few of them being him saying he would catch up.

if prozack is using multiball set-up then I am gonna fly to scotland and stomp on his big toe. IRL.

I am so over multi-ball no1 has any freaking idea, I am just burnt out on it.

can I just die now and get it over with since the 3 players who started my wagon are doing and fuck all for the rest of the game and somehow pple are srsly letting myko get away with pretending he doesn't know me jesus fucking christ what drugs are you on plz send me some.

[pirate mollie]

also!

PROD DODGE!

[notscience]

And what happened inbetween you unvoting Matt, saying he might be town, to voting for him again and expressing your desire for his lynch? Inbetween that, Matt had only made like 8 posts, quite a few of them being him saying he would catch up.

I got sick of hearing excuse after excuse for him to catch up. He was so much more proactive in Disney in comparison to here and I think he even mentioned he wanted to draw town so bad he submitted the 3 cutest fluffiest characters so he wouldnt draw scum (citation needed) which lends to a theory of him being apathetic as scum and not being able to truly do anything. While there I was scum who actually had to scumhunt, I could at least tell he was town by the passion he was expressing and I understand it could be time constraints but I don't think it's that simple.

[notscience]

I'm saying scummy people being on a wagon doesn't not discredit it when we don't know how many scum groups there are. I don't see why you have a problem with that.

The problem with that is that other scumgroups shouldn't be on your radar on day 1.

If we come into tomorrow and 3 people are dead? Hell yeah I'd be suspicious

But day 1?

I am all for scummy people on a wagon giving me heebie jeebies. I even noted myself that I was having mixed feelings on the wagon that was voting ME because I was townreading almost everyone on it.

I actually used that very point in Saki mafia when, on day 1 we had a wagon on scum/marquisslot and it stuck throughout majority of the day with 3 people I was top tier townreading and 1 in my second tier. Maybe it was confirmation bias but if I see a wagon full of people I am townreading it makes me that much more inclined to vote it because I see town is working as a unit to do something and it looks like it's not a scum maneuver.