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Post Post #1500 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:23 am

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Espeonage wrote:
pirate mollie wrote:wow some1 sounds worried

Mollie, you're getting worked up and let's be honest you tend to tunnel when ure mad. Reck is actually being objective here a quality he tends to lack when I pick up on his scum game. I generally have a good gut for Reck and he's actually looking p good here.

I am p sure you know how I feel about appeals to relational authority and while I respect your ability. I think ure wrong here and not focusing correctly. Peeps are fall able Reck too is fall able.

Now Reck. For like the first time ever we get to be town. Now I'm not saying molliw is town here. But her reading is generally based on emotional connection and I don't think this stuff is necessarily caused by her being obtuse Bc scum.

Try for your interactions. Mollie is null town. Reck is town pool proper.


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Post Post #1501 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:25 am

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Til Reck = aggro Tammy.

Pls Mollie. I am p sure Reck is town here.
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Post Post #1502 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:30 am

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I am not even voting him or pushing him why is this a thing.

oh yeah for some reason he felt threatened when you reached out to me. like this is the most exchanges we have had, he thinks my play is shitty but won't say why.

he isn't town in my eyes.
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Post Post #1503 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:31 am

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pirate mollie wrote:
pirate mollie wrote:he asked for my thoughts on the
game


so when you voted me, where was my play shitty again?


still waiting for an answer to this!

cos all I got from your early ramblings was that I wasn't giving you enough attention.

the point that I was making to espy and every1 else was that we have a connection that goes beyond the game, and I wanted him to take that into consideration. cos he will get it I think.

your whole dramaqueen meltdown is a vast overreaction to it and for the life of me I can't figure out why except that you think you won't be able to manipulate espy why the fuck is this whole thing about espy and not your shitty voteparking on me for shitty reasons oh yeah it is cos I was responding to your posts.

LMAO you expect me to answer your questions after you've dragged your feet and stomped and thrown a tantrum by refusing to answer mine? Okay. But I'll answer yours anyway.

Your shitty play is literally exactly what I've just said. It's you refusing to engage. It's you throwing you kitschy one word responses. It's you seemingly having either the (1) inability or (2) refusal to comprehend what I'm asking and respond in a clear, concise manner. I'm having a fucking meltdown because, yet again, you're proving to be obtuse. I know you're NOT DUMB so when you pretend to be or completely miss things in games it drives me up a fucking wall to the point of losing it. I don't understand it. I got to a similar point with you in The Reckoning III invitational when you could not provide us with a simple fucking flavor claim from your role PM.

Exactly what do you think your relationship with me IRL is bringing to your ability to read me? I'm super curious. What things that you've learned about me IRL are you now applying to your read of me in this game, and how do they relate? You're the one who invoked the appeal to relational authority, here, so I hope you're prepared to actually defend it. Because for the life of me, I can't think of a single thing I've learned about you IRL that would somehow give me the authority to claim I can read you better online.

I don't give a shit about manipulating Espeonage, because I'm town. I'm frustrated and at the end of my rope with you because your play does not make any fucking sense. Not in an "I can't understand why you'd do this" perspective, in an "I literally cannot put together your words in this game in a way that makes any coherent sense in the grand scheme of things" way. I -also- have not voteparked on you. I was 15 pages behind, essentially, and still had my vote on you from earlier. I still stand behind that, when I placed the vote, I actually felt it was a correct vote. After catching up, I switched my vote to mykonian, who I am
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, so you can take your whining about voteparking and sincerely shove it, because if you want to talk about overdramatic theatrics, you can look no further than your cries of voteparking. I am now
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to votepark you and sincerely not give a shit if you don't actually answer my questions, which you now at least appear to be doing since Espeonage is here and trying to get through to you.
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Post Post #1504 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:32 am

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pirate mollie wrote:I am not even voting him or pushing him why is this a thing.

oh yeah for some reason he felt threatened when you reached out to me. like this is the most exchanges we have had, he thinks my play is shitty but won't say why.

he isn't town in my eyes.

ESPEONAGE DIDN'T FUCKING REACH OUT TO YOU

CAN YOU NOT FUCKING READ? SERIOUS QUESTION.

ESPE AND I WERE BANTERING ABOUT THE FUCKING SITECHAT THING. THEN
YOU
CAME IN AND WERE LIKE "ESPE PLZ TRUST MY IRL RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM"

I AM TRYING TO FUCKING UNDERSTAND YOUR ADDLED BRAIN AND CONNECT POINT A TO POINT FUCKING GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING TITSHITTING B
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Post Post #1505 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:38 am

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Espeonage wrote:Mollie fill me in.


first post.

am I mistaken that he was reaching out to me?
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Post Post #1506 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:48 am

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Jfc you two

Z-zito, I'm all for at least us two to votebloc here today. I'm pretty much narrowing myself to notty or mattp.
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Post Post #1507 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:53 am

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Espeonage wrote:
pirate mollie wrote:wow some1 sounds worried

Mollie, you're getting worked up and let's be honest you tend to tunnel when ure mad. Reck is actually being objective here a quality he tends to lack when I pick up on his scum game. I generally have a good gut for Reck and he's actually looking p good here.

I am p sure you know how I feel about appeals to relational authority and while I respect your ability. I think ure wrong here and not focusing correctly. Peeps are fall able Reck too is fall able.

Now Reck. For like the first time ever we get to be town. Now I'm not saying molliw is town here. But her reading is generally based on emotional connection and I don't think this stuff is necessarily caused by her being obtuse Bc scum.

Try for your interactions. Mollie is null town. Reck is town pool proper.



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Post Post #1508 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:01 am

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I'm feel pretty horrid about my lack of contribution over the past few days. I did need to step away to give my brain a break from the nastiness, but also have had one thing after another pile up for Extra Life (our local marathon is in just over two weeks and last push to recruit more gamers is ongoing until then), as well as lots popping up for my fellowship. Once I get through these next three weeks, I'll be golden. It's just every time that I've sat down to actually catch up with the game, I end up being pulled to projects and work email. I hate excuses as much as the next person, but it's just been hard to sit down and read through all the catch up, read through SC/MattP like I've wanted to, and garner some insight on the bunch of nulls that I have sitting about. It's like my motivation and excitement to be back in a large game on MS was nullified and I can't really shake it.


That said....starting on Page 36...


I don't really get how CKD can pit Davsto as scum for his lack of contribution. He could easily be town or scum who is just having a hard time keeping up. I can't blame him, given how I've been over the past few days, but I don't see it as scummy actions on Day 1. I just see it as lazy. Not knowing him well enough, he may just coast on Day 1 and be more of a contributor on Day 2. I just don't know, but the lack of participation isn't helpful at all. Additionally, in #891[/quote], CKD lists out everyone who agrees (Flame, Spiff, Zito, and Nexus). I'd be very wary of any of those who join in on such a wagon.

Another thing on this page is a CKD vote on Marquis that I don't really understand.


As someone who has also dealt with this kinda thing within this game, I can empathize with your frustrations. I don't really think that warrants a vote on him. He's been pretty reponsive, at least with me.

All of that said, I don't feel that CKD is scummy for the above because I feel that I could have easily made the same arguments.


In
post 918, Marquis"]so i don't waste the post i'm kind of interested in seeing starbuck's strongest townreads.[/quote]
In all honesty, most of my reads right now are null. I mean, I pretty much said above that I feel that CKD is town because I could picture myself making those same arguments.

As for a full on list, I guarantee it would be like 90% null. Just because my main interactions, so far, have been with you, mollie, and notsci. I don't even know how to look at notsci with all the whiteknighting of mollie. I can't tell if it's just trying to chill her out or if it's part of scoring some town points. I'm really not sure.

I also need to do some research back on SC/MattP because I still don't understand all the scum reads on that slot when I read the same stuff and didn't get that feeling.



Ahhh, there we go. Some substance from Davsto. About time.



^^ This right, here, makes me trust Flame.

That's one null read eliminated.


And there goes CKD with a vote on Davsto in
#1016. It seems like just because? Le sigh.


That's some substance that I've wanted to see in Davsto's #1049! Welcome to the game.


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Post Post #1509 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:02 am

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I fucked my code in there. Blah.
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Post Post #1510 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:30 am

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just because this is buried underneath reck and mollie's town on town hate orgy on a couch.

Spiff, would like an answer to this when you get back.

curiouskarmadog wrote:
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fuck hang on.

Spiffeh wrote:
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Town's
grasping for straws and this is one of them, that's the interesting bit, not the wagons themselves.

Why are you referring to them as "town"?

Like how do you know everyone coming after you is town?


Spiff, are you saying that as town, you have never referred to the collective as town?
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Post Post #1511 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:31 am

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Starting at the top of Page 43....

scotmany12 wrote:@nottty
why do you need to ask mollie who to wagon? Why can't you take a stance on your own?

OMG THIS. QFT.

scotmany12 wrote:Davstro is also actively avoiding contributing to this game. Until his post on mollie, which is just awful. Are we really going to let him get away with calling mollie's post fluff, when he has consistently done the exact same thing? (I dissagree that mollies read list is fluff)

If you actually read through that big post, he asks her a number of questions which require her response. Given my read of her and having to page through quite of fluff to get to real content, I don't feel he's wrong in that. However, coming from him, it looks very hypocritical.

Davsto wrote:But that's the thing. My readslist wasn't meant to give off the impression of being a deep readslist, it was shallow and intended that way.

Mollie's gives off an air of trying to look like she's doing loads, but actually there's very little there.

I also agree with this.

Spiffeh wrote:And all of notscience's posts have addressed mollie and only mollie and he is making no effort to engage anyone else.

It's starting to get really annoying actually.

Another QFT. The Follow the Leader game is getting old.


Why does mollie voting davsto in #1065 not surprise me? Instead of responding to his questions, she votes for him after accusing him of the same thing that she accused me of - cherry picking. Is this the default accusation for everyone who disagrees? I'm just curious.


And there goes AJ replacing out. I was just going to ask for a summary of him, too.


Ooooh! There goes a notscience wagon. I could behind that. The whole needing to speak for mollie thing has really irked me.

mykonian wrote:ns wagon is too random for me.

How come?

pirate mollie wrote:I think you are scum myko.

Everyone who votes or questions or suspects you is scum? That's not really how it works.


pirate mollie wrote:
Spiffeh wrote:Yeah the only justification I see in mollie votes have been "this seems like mollie scum" or something of that nature which is obviously not a good reason and I just disagree with it in general.

@ckd true. I still condone the wagon. :)


the 3 votes are voteparked on me from pple who have barely posted since, all 3 players promised that they wld post more yet have been doing nothing but prod dodges.

^ this is what myko is sheeping.

You're not wrong here, at least on the prod dodges, but I think my case is quite legitimate compared to the gut reads. I don't know. Now that there is less hostility and more response, maybe I'll get a better view of you.

pirate mollie wrote:yeah I know he has only been talking to me, but that is not unusual for him.

In a Large Game, that's kind of a big deal that he's not interacting with anyone else.

pirate mollie wrote:I don't think that is what you were doing, I think you thought that i was insulting your friends and it pissed you off.

Yep, that's exactly how I felt.


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Post Post #1512 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:32 am

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pirate mollie wrote:
Espeonage wrote:Mollie fill me in.


first post.

am I mistaken that he was reaching out to me?

You're correct, he did.

You said I felt threatened by that...despite the fact that I didn't react to that at all in any way? So why do you think I was threatened by Espeonage reaching out to you?
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Post Post #1513 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:35 am

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ckd could die today too i guess
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Post Post #1514 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:51 am

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curiouskarmadog wrote:
unvote


fuck hang on.

Spiffeh wrote:
mykonian wrote:
Town's
grasping for straws and this is one of them, that's the interesting bit, not the wagons themselves.

Why are you referring to them as "town"?

Like how do you know everyone coming after you is town?


Spiff, are you saying that as town, you have never referred to the collective as town?

I have heard town use town in the 3rd person before. I have done it myself. The way I interpreted it at first was him saying that solely because his own was growing and I thought it was really odd to refer to his voters as "Town" especially when pirate mollie was one of them and he had been calling her scum previously.

He has since explained to me that he was referring to the chaos of the gamestate as a whole which makes perfect sense in context.
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Post Post #1515 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:53 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:
Bins wrote:
xRECKONERx wrote:that response to BBM is pretty damn scummy

"it's valid"? really?

i don't see what your problem is?

word choice?

"It's valid" is not particularly the route I would be taking if I were defending my position of openly wanting to lynch a townread.

yah

you're right

idk
bad word choice on my part, wasn't really what i was trying to convey

english is not my main language, even though I'm pretty good, its hard to find more complex words sometimes
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"it's not a legitimate idea" is more what i was trying to convey
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*illegitimate

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Post Post #1517 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:55 am

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Is anyone else starting to think that Reck is getting into endless back and forths with mollie so he can appear to be relevant when he's just harping on and on about the same thing? :?
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Post Post #1518 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:55 am

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Because other than that I can't think of a purpose for that to be happening.
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Post Post #1519 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:56 am

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I guess the same could be said about mollie but I see her doing more than just bickering.
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Post Post #1520 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:44 am

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Spiffeh wrote:Is anyone else starting to think that Reck is getting into endless back and forths with mollie so he can appear to be relevant when he's just harping on and on about the same thing? :?

Not at all
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Post Post #1521 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:18 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:
catboi wrote:Maybe I'm a sucker, but mollie's emotional crap doesn't look fake to me and I think some people might be trying to wind her up in the hope she gets herself lynched.

mollie literally get emotional in every game she has ever played this is pretty null (and also giving into ate)
I'm aware but I'm not in a place to care about it right now.


xRECKONERx wrote:how did catboi's aj case not get more traction? it basically just happened then that was it
I'd probably have pushed it more if he hadn't immediately folded and quit the game. Basically impossible to get a replacement lynched in the timeframe we have unless they crap all over themselves. Though seeing him demonstrate tunnelvision as town in past games weakens the read somewhat.

Papa Zito wrote:catboi doesn't have a lot of credibility

I mean, how do you take someone named catboi seriously
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Espeonage wrote:Ok so feel free to call me dumb here, but why is mattp seeming to be everyone's go to right now. Like I haven't read so idk the case but given the way everyone is posing it seems kinda easy, you feel me?
It hasn't really been remotely easy. I'll try to dig up my objections to Matt, someone who was after SCoug should try to explain what they saw there because while I wasn't a fan of the slot I'd be lying if I said I had been actively scumreading it.
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Post Post #1522 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:22 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:nah ill start contributing more after d1

mollie are you tryin to come @ me?


this was ONE of your first posts after espy subbed in and you were doing fuck all.

why did you single me out only to get into a retarded shitwar with me and ignore notty?
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Post Post #1523 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:25 pm

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For whatever reason I'm laughing at this whole exchange on the last page
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Post Post #1524 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:28 pm

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catboi wrote:For whatever reason I'm laughing at this whole exchange on the last page


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