EoSD: Hakurei Shrine Once Again

[borkjerfkin]

But if you can recreate that defeatist emotional state around D3 this game, you'll be so obvtown

[pieguyn]

ya it'd be good if I could fake that. it hardly ever comes up in my town games so I've never faked it before, but I have a good sense of what it looks like now.

[GuyInFreezer]

The thread is locked for a day. I'll see you night 1... if you can make it that far.

[GuyInFreezer]

Thread opened for night.

[pieguyn]

HAHAHA that was beautiful

[GuyInFreezer]

Ironically I was reading the book "Kill the Messenger".

[pieguyn]

i think we won day 1 pretty fucking hard. we've routed 3 out of at least 3 expected PRs (flan might be a 4th PR or there might be another one running around somewhere) and this whole feysal/spiffeh/ranger shitfight will lead to another or even two more chain mislynches

strongman someone obvious tonight (thinking noddy) -> mislynch spiffeh tomorrow seems like the best strategy

p-edit: :< :< that lynch flavor was so sad. i can't even imagine how sakuya would feel if something like that actually happened.

[borkjerfkin]

That might be the best scum D1 i have ever played

[borkjerfkin]

We need to pretty much target spiffeh tomorrow yeah for a lynch. i do not want him alive with our strongman used.

I will target ika? He has to be koakuma but he crumbed non vanilla earlier

[borkjerfkin]

Sakura is cirno and all but claimed vt

[borkjerfkin]

So I deliberately swung that lynch onto Ranger for a couple reasons:

Ranger's obviously an alt and I

think

I know her main. Since it is no longer pertinent to the game I'm not going to out who I think it is to respect her anonymity, but I saw her as a potential threat and wanted her gone.
A town PR flip gives potential credence to Spiffeh not working in this setup. As an aside: I don't think it makes sense for me to claim anything except VT. I was originally going to change my "lol town rolecop" (cause that will totally be believed in a 9p ><) to a town limited shot neopolitan, but I think at this point if we flip Spiffeh I'm just gonna look like scum if I claim any kind of PR.
If asked for flavor: I'm the gate guard but I'm lazy as fuck and therefore have no power (much like your Patchouli asthma thing)

Spiffeh being alive has potential utility for us since you can circumvent his ability.
Additionally, if I am to flip before you, my 11th hour wagon on Ranger is going to look like I have a buddy between Feysal and Spiffeh.

[borkjerfkin]

I'm not

thrilled

about having to kill notty since he's townreading us both but it's probably the right choice:
If we don't shoot into the "meta circle" they're probably going to get suspicious, and I'm guessing most likely they'll get suspicious of you

Sakura's probably more solidly in my corner than anyone this game and I don't think she has it in her to whirl around on me. Definitely not after an NS kill.

Feysal's a good scumhunter but nobody is listening to him this game and his one supporter has been eliminated. I'm targeting him for a D3 mislynch but ika might also serve that purpose.
ika is essentially pro-scum to keep alive indefinitely.

Depending on Pepto's reads as of tomorrow I'm wondering if we can leave him alive in LyLo. That's dangerous imo in anything less than 7p lylo.

Do you want to figure out a way for me to signal you about my rolecop result or are you confident enough that I won't get lynched tomm?

[borkjerfkin]

Also wtf poisoned tea? We're more civilized than that.
I was going to invite everyone to the shrine after we resolve the incident

[borkjerfkin]

Feysal's a good scumhunter but nobody is listening to him this game and his one supporter has been eliminated. I'm targeting him for a D3 mislynch but ika might also serve that purpose.

Also we can use Feysal's inactivity against him

I've been pretending to be obtuse about Feysal's scumhunting style (he tends to townread people whose internal thoughts mirror his) and I totally get why my spat w/ Grayfoxxx, which is the closest thing I've had to a misstep this game, made me look less town. I think I was able to fling that point back in his face though

[borkjerfkin]

Me unvoting and revoting Ranger though was 100% the right move though
Like anyone who is looking for associatives from me is going to be disappointed
If you post more I am probably going to start buddying the shit out of you

[borkjerfkin]

We're kind of ignoring each other a little too much for my comfort. We're townreading each other though, which is good.

[pieguyn]

Ranger's obviously an alt and I think I know her main. Since it is no longer pertinent to the game I'm not going to out who I think it is to respect her anonymity, but I saw her as a potential threat and wanted her gone.

yep

[pieguyn]

Also wtf poisoned tea? We're more civilized than that.
I was going to invite everyone to the shrine after we resolve the incident

ikr :<

[pieguyn]

ranger lynch was amazing because now feysal is gonna power lynch spiffeh tomorrow and all we need is one more town vote and he'll get lynched, which will likely be pepto and this is even if no one else votes. this is even more so the case if someone who should have been an obvious protection target dies, which is why i like a noddy kill. i doubt anyone will listen to him after that nor do i think he'll be in any position where he can do much of anything on d3

i'm taking any ika crumb with a grain of salt cos faking a PR as VT or faking a VT as PR is the kind of thing i imagine he would do. regardless, unless he flips out on one of us, i want him around

sakura is always going to be paranoid of me for some reason (because apparently i always have something up my sleeve :<), but i don't see any reason to kill her atm

pepto we should probably kill n2 just so we don't have an IC running around in lylo. we might be able to leave him alive until n3 but if the game goes till then we definitely have to kill him then.

i think if there's another pr it's probably flan

[pieguyn]

Do you want to figure out a way for me to signal you about my rolecop result or are you confident enough that I won't get lynched tomm?

i'm about 104% sure you won't get lynched tomorrow barring something like a guilty (and lol if there's something that can get a guilty on you in addition to all the other stuff we've seen so far in this setup)

i'd be good with just signaling VT/not-VT

[pieguyn]

If you post more I am probably going to start buddying the shit out of you

i'll try to post more, if my RL allows it

i'm not too worried about our interactions - saying "x and y ignored each other -> scum partners" without any context is a bad argument, and i feel it's likely i would have interacted with you the same way as town, since i usually don't go too far out of my way to interact with people unless i disagree with them on something, especially in a player list with a lot of people i try to work with at the same time. (this is what caused me to lynch radja in your game because i was dead set on a hawk lynch and mostly switched because they ignored each other all game) i could almost definitely argue my way out of that if anyone tries to push it. either way, i'll probably start interacting with you more after noddy dies

[pieguyn]

i don't really have any specific plan for who i'm going to push d3. i would love to revenge lynch sakura for my first game on-site, but i don't usually go out of my way to do things like that as scum just for the sake of it. realistically, either feysal or ika looks most likely.

[pieguyn]

borkjerfkin rolecops: ika
pieguyn MASTER SPARKS (strongman): notscience

[borkjerfkin]

pepto we should probably kill n2 just so we don't have an IC running around in lylo. we might be able to leave him alive until n3 but if the game goes till then we definitely have to kill him then.

Yeah we're probably just better off killing him

He's not really contributing but he's also unpredictable and it's possible he'll just vote one of us without any way to shake him off if he's alive D3
Spiffeh HAS to go on D2 though if we use the strongman. Alternate plan is not to use strongman and just wait and see what happens; higher risk potentially higher reward.

My gut says use strongman, if by some chance he blocks you, that will be a good thing. If he protects NS, then we potentially have some issues but nothing I'm that concerned about overcoming

Ok my code:
First vowel of my first post tomorrow will be:
a = vanilla result
e = positive utility PR result
i = negative utility PR result
o = no result
u = something really fucking weird happened that I can't easily explain via code

[pieguyn]

spiffeh is definitely getting lynched d2. the only reason i would see for leaving him alive is to try and "confirm his role before lylo" but that's a really dumb reason, feysal probably wouldn't accept it, and it wouldn't be difficult to force it through anyway

i don't see what protecting ns would do? it's a strongman kill.

@MOD: would my strongman kill go through if i got roleblocked?