Prozac's Basic Theme 4 - Murder in Marlowe - OVER!

[pirate mollie]

dear vig,

if you happen to exist plz nk us.

love,

mollie

ps: also I still think zito is scum.

[pirate mollie]

dear espy,

plz do some more things. like that
readslist I asked for.

love,

mollie

[Starbuck]

See, this is some crap. Now you get to ask for both of us to die. That's some BS.

I started my Notepad doc, but I'll post some full stuff later today.

[Starbuck]

If you really are town, you will be sacrificing not one, but TWO townies. Stop being ridiculous.

[pirate mollie]

Hey Dave!

Remember this game?

[Spiffeh]

He has nothing to talk about now that my vote is elsewhere

[Davsto]

Hey Dave!

Remember this game?

I love how there are so many people that haven't posted for longer than me, yet I'm the one you chase after.

He has nothing to talk about now that my vote is elsewhere

Oh ffs not this again.

[pirate mollie]

are you even paying attention to the game?

[Bins]

are Flame and myko attempting to make me feel like I'm in Davsto's shoes to make me sympathize with him

[Bins]

@Bins

if I could direct your attention to 2307 - you're one of the people I'm townreading on that wagon and I really think it's unlikely to be a scum lynch. Would really prefer the lynch be someone else today.

I kind of saw this in his last post.

siiigh

I'll be back later

[Flameaxe]

are Flame and myko attempting to make me feel like I'm in Davsto's shoes to make me sympathize with him

waht

play the game pls

[Porochaz]

Prodded a lot of people about an hour ago. Please note, I have been kind of relaxed with my prodding rule, in that I've been prodding, but not replacing unless it was truly needed but this is starting to be silly. If I've prodded you once or twice, fine. But any more than that and I will start looking for replacements if you fall behind again. I don't want to replace you but at the same time, if you don't have the time, I'd rather find someone who does as it's not fair on anyone.

Ethan's death left a hole that couldn't be readily filled, it was always known that he loved his family deeply, but he didn't realise the impact he had on the people he worked with or the people he cared for.

Votecount 2.10

Espeonage

(4): Starbuck, Davsto, pirate mollie, catboi

ChannelDelibird

(3): Nexus, Spiffeh, notscience

Davsto

(3): Bins, scotmany12, Papa Zito

Bins

(2): Flameaxe, mykonian

scotmany12

(1): ChannelDelibird

Starbuck

(1): Espeonage

Not Voting

(2): curiouskarmadog, xRECKONERx

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2015-11-08 19:00:00)

- Sorry about the counter not being there, it should be there from now on

[pirate mollie]

UNVOTE: espeonage

@ catboi

I feel like espy's post about star was pretty on point, marquis noticed that on d1, it is why I loverized her. so now I am really unsure on him.

I am really not happy with reck right now. I am wondering if scum are in those hanging back. we have to find some way to consolidate.

I am not sure what to think about dave right now.

[ChannelDelibird]

I am ill today and, while I have technically pointed my eyes at all of the posts since my last post, I haven't really taken much in.

There are worse wagons than Espeonage (I don't haaate a Starbuck vote but my paranoia on mollie is mild at most right now and I think the town is probably better off with her in it atm) but I can't get especially excited. If I were to move my vote, it would more likely be to Bins.

Scot's getting too wrapped up in consistency as his defence. People who were scumreading Davsto on Day 1 should be just as able to reevaluate based on newer posts as anyone.

Mollie: Reck is plausibly scum for activity. I am reminded to an extent of his performance in the Red Wedding, although some of his Day 1 here was a bit more engaged so it might still just be a lack of energy for this game. I can't remember how MattP treated him, though, and that might be instructional.

[Bins]

are Flame and myko attempting to make me feel like I'm in Davsto's shoes to make me sympathize with him

waht

play the game pls

back at ya

[Starbuck]

Mega catch up incoming.....

Starting on Page 81......


I really like seeing catboi do some digging through ISOs. There's a few that I need to get to at some point.

voteparking absolutely is scummy combined with lurking.

No, it's not. Some of us have lives to attend to and/or are here when no one else actually wants to add anything to the game, and come back to 20+ more pages.

Also my micro just ended, so now this is my only game, which means y'all get all my attention.

Starbuck I do not know as a player.

This is blatantly untrue. We played many a game back in the day.


I like Dav's points about Espy in #2053. Glad to see some good input from you.

This is the goddamn reason why I didn't want to do it, because once I do everyone goes "yeh he's scum"

fucking morton's fucking fork bullshit

If you are town, why are overly concerned with looking scummy?

Because the point of the game is to lynch scum. When you know you aren't and the mob forms and they swear that you are, it's hella frustrating. Like the fact in this game that not one person, save for Reck, seems to think that I'm town when I know that I am. This means that, eventually, I'm going to be mislynched (or vigged thanks to the link with mollie) because no one wants to believe me. Or right now, the only reason that I'm even being kept alive is that no one wants to see mollie die. I mean, if you guys think I'm so scummy, where the fuck is my lynch? All these people saying that I'm scum, but just are using my back and forth with mollie as reasoning is weak. But you know, I guess it doesn't matter that I've been doing my best to give my thoughts, go through ISOs, and try to be as informed as I can (V/LAs and busyness not withstanding).

Davsto, I know your pain bro. Like I take my time and go through rather than skimming so that I can give the best assessment that I can and no one takes the time to even consider it. However, reading this back and forth that you're having around Page 83-84, giving some solid good cases could build you back up. You've got to see the other side of it, too. All you really did for Day 1 is just post about how you couldn't post. I mean, I've had my few days where I just wasn't here, but I caught back up and contributed (not like that's given any thought, but you know). For you, it's different because your ISO is just full of excuses about how you couldn't do anything. So take a moment, write out a decent case, and go from there.


And then those votes on Davsto for what I read as honest and genuine frustration are just terrible. I'm looking at you scot and Zito.


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[Starbuck]

Starting Top of Page 85....

Oh wow, mollie and I agree on Davsto.


scot, I totally disagree with your #2103 for reasons stated in my last catch up post. The reasoning for Davsto is pretty damn weak. I get the thought behind it, but it's just horridly flimsy case.


In CKD's #2110, the phrasing that he bolds in Davsto's post could easily be a semantics thing.


Liking catboi's scot analysis in #2125, if you TLDR'd that, you may wanna go back for a read.

Also, the amount of people brushing it off as "he's clearly genuine!!!!" is getting to me because I simply don't see it. I don't see how they could see it. And I think that's an easy stance that people could be taking on their buddy, though, I doubt they'd be as obvious about it.

But yet, this reasoning was used for mollie and no one batted an eye.


Am I the only person who didn't feel like CDB had no comprehension of the Dav wagon? I feel like his words were just taken and ran with.


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[Starbuck]

Starting Top of Page 90....

After allllllllllllll of these pages, I've seen like two posts from Reck. I've been busy, so I get all that, but I mean, there really hasn't been much from him since the back and forth with mollie.

Oh and to go along with that, a severe lack of Espy, too. Curiouser and curiouser.

i'm 100% ok if you disagree with it

it has very weak reasons right now

but to not understand it?

Why do you think the reasoning is weak?

I'm not sure what the better word is his.

Not weak, just not... uh, specific examples. Just his play in general. His attitude and his effort.

What kind of response is this? I would have expected some detail, like "this person is voting Davsto for this reason, and this is why it is weak."

Much elaboration needed.


I'm curious to see Nexus' detailed case about CDB.


As this goes farther and farther, with the added gifs and what not, does it not feel that Davsto is just trolling and upping the page count for the fuck of it? I mean, seriously, you aren't helping the case on yourself at all. Stop the "woe is me" bullshit and answer questions. Contribute. If this continues any longer, as much as I feel that you're genuine, I may have to join the policy lynch crew just to be rid of the mass distraction that you are causing.


I completely agree with Flameaxe's #2269 analysis on Bins. I mentioned quite a bit of the same during my end of Day 1 ISO read through. And that response to Flameaxe's post, ugh. We're on Day 2. Can you have some kind of substantial case with examples, rather than gut, please?

Newsflash: content can be empty. You can do stuff without doing anything. ITS LITERALLY THE POINT OF THE GAME FOR ONE FACTION

QFT. I laughed so hard at this.

No I'm pretty happy calling out an actively distracting part of the town, thanks though!

So, are you confirming that mollie is town?


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[pirate mollie]

I am ill today and, while I have technically pointed my eyes at all of the posts since my last post, I haven't really taken much in.

There are worse wagons than Espeonage (I don't haaate a Starbuck vote but my paranoia on mollie is mild at most right now and I think the town is probably better off with her in it atm) but I can't get especially excited. If I were to move my vote, it would more likely be to Bins.

Scot's getting too wrapped up in consistency as his defence. People who were scumreading Davsto on Day 1 should be just as able to reevaluate based on newer posts as anyone.

Mollie: Reck is plausibly scum for activity. I am reminded to an extent of his performance in the Red Wedding, although some of his Day 1 here was a bit more engaged so it might still just be a lack of energy for this game. I can't remember how MattP treated him, though, and that might be instructional.

THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING!!!

this is just like how he was in red wedding where he lurked and coasted and let town tear itself apart.

and matty DID say something super odd to reck:

And on a side-note, I emotionally personally feel in a deep inside place that Papa Zito and Reckoner are consistently and obviously town-like throughout the game

reck wasn't being obvtown at all! nor does he even attempt to explain the read it just exists in a vacuum. zito was kind of town, sort of but I still think zito is scum in fact is so scum he has tiny tony airplanes coming out of his ear and nostrils with banners on them that say, "I'm scum!".

anyways back to scum!reck.

It's honestly pretty bizarre that Reck has a scumread on PM considering that he knows her in real life. Some other people I have considerably lower expectations of.

I thought that this made reck town after matty's flip but thinking about it and given reck's lackluster play and general lack of doing anything I think that matty might have given us entire team in his townreads. it wldn't surprise me, thats how I play scum. I noticed when he visited when we played games we tend to think alike strategically so it is not a jump that we have similar approaches in mafia.

cdb if you are town I really need your head in the game.

[Espeonage]

dear espy,

plz do some more things. like that
readslist I asked for.

love,

mollie

Soz, you aren't getting a readlist. But I will say that I am reserving a read on dav until I can look at wagon build and composition as there were flops from slots that shouldn't be inclined to be flopping.

Reck is still town, you are likely town from the star choice. Most of the playerlist I don't have reads on bc I just haven't done it. You probably expect that though. I don't see what's wrong with zito tbh. Bloc'ing seems to be a natural move after how well Oldies mafia went which just finished, so that's a read that exists.

I'm not going to hide reads tho, so if I have a read it'll come out without you having to ask.

[pirate mollie]

dear espy,

plz do some more things. like that
readslist I asked for.

love,

mollie

Soz, you aren't getting a readlist. But I will say that I am reserving a read on dav until I can look at wagon build and composition as there were flops from slots that shouldn't be inclined to be flopping.

Reck is still town, you are likely town from the star choice. Most of the playerlist I don't have reads on bc I just haven't done it. You probably expect that though. I don't see what's wrong with zito tbh. Bloc'ing seems to be a natural move after how well Oldies mafia went which just finished, so that's a read that exists.

I'm not going to hide reads tho, so if I have a read it'll come out without you having to ask.

explain your town!reck read. cos there are 2 pple who know him a lot better than who are saying nope.

[Espeonage]

I could point to my history of being correct on reck onsite, but that's petty and you and I both know I hate that shit when I have some grounding on the person in question.

And it's a tonal read. And I really don't think my evidence is going to sway you bc it's all fromt he argument you two had late day 1. He reads in that exchange with a genuineness that is absent from his scum game. I've never found trying to read him outside of tone to ever be useful either way. Which has been historically true for our interactions over the years and so I am confident in my read on him. He is my number 1 town read and is way above anyone else in the game at the moment in townness in my eyes.

[pirate mollie]

I could point to my history of being correct on reck onsite, but that's petty and you and I both know I hate that shit when I have some grounding on the person in question.

And it's a tonal read. And I really don't think my evidence is going to sway you bc it's all fromt he argument you two had late day 1. He reads in that exchange with a genuineness that is absent from his scum game. I've never found trying to read him outside of tone to ever be useful either way. Which has been historically true for our interactions over the years and so I am confident in my read on him. He is my number 1 town read and is way above anyone else in the game at the moment in townness in my eyes.

newsflash!

reck can fake genuineness as scum!

I want to hear cdb's take on those quotes I posted. and you are not even remotely paying attention to the game if you think I am only scumreading zito for townblocking I townbloc all of the time and you acting like I don't is pretty sus.

if you are going to be utterly useless and try to beetlejuice your way through game I am fine with going back to voting you.

[Nexus]

Genuinely sorry. I injured my knee on Saturday and have been laid up not really able to pay much attention which is the opposite of what I wanted to do.

Am on a train for 2hrs tomorrow so will try and get the game re-read then.

[Spiffeh]

I could wagon Reck.